Re: [xubuntu-users] gimp-helping "not available" ...in Firefox 104.0.1
On 05/09/2022 10:02, Ralf Mardorf wrote: the good news, you can still save an image to /tmp, maybe not an image shown by firefox, but by any app that isn’t a snap. The really good news is actually that I junked FF years ago anyway. But not being able to save to /tmp is a killer, so snaps are out. The bad news, outside of the Ubuntu flavour universe snaps aren’t accepted, due to the bad design. Fine by me. Alternatives such as flatpak are at least a little bit tolerated. I've heard of it but never seen or used it. I need a snap free distribution, not because I care about the tmp issue, just because I want a real long term support distribution without regular packages that are replaced by a snap, flatpak or Co. thingy. IOW I don’t know what distro to use for this purpose in the future, but it will not be Ubuntu with snaps. I'll be right behind you. Peter -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] gimp-helping "not available" ...in Firefox 104.0.1
On 5/09/22 22:07, Hans Schneidhofer wrote: Hi, I think my next distribution for all my work will be even debian. Because there are no needs for snap or flatpak. My other PC with debian 11 works now for years with soundstudio - without aany problems. I think I will also convert my current and last Xubuntu PC to debian. With debian deb-packages can be installed as usual without all the big problems that snap and flatpack bring with them. Such limitations as Ubuntu currently has in my daily work are really not very usefull I gave up Windows years ago because I didn't find any restrictions in Linux for a long time, But I have the impression that Ubuntu is starting to become more and more commercialized and wants to do its own thing. This is not a good development for Linux. But it is only my opinion. bye hans * Am Montag, den 05.09.2022, 10:02 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: On 5. Sep 2022, at 09:35, Peter Flynn wrote: On 5 September 2022 06:07:27 Michael Hoehne wrote: Snaps are not allowed to use "/tmp" because of security issues. Does this mean (for example) that I would not be able to Save As... to /tmp (eg an image). If so, I'm going to need a snap-free distribution. That kind of restriction is fine for the amateur or novice, but has no place in the ecology otherwise. Hi, the good news, you can still save an image to /tmp, maybe not an image shown by firefox, but by any app that isn’t a snap. The bad news, outside of the Ubuntu flavour universe snaps aren’t accepted, due to the bad design. Alternatives such as flatpak are at least a little bit tolerated. That snaps are advertised to be supported by other distros is a blatant lie. The snap infrastructure might be available by other distros, but snaps are usually unwanted. https://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2022-September/030839.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2022-September/012659.html There are countless other issues caused by flatpak and Co., but especially by snaps. To my knowledge it’s the worst of all. I need a snap free distribution, not because I care about the tmp issue, just because I want a real long term support distribution without regular packages that are replaced by a snap, flatpak or Co. thingy. IOW I don’t know what distro to use for this purpose in the future, but it will not be Unbuntu with snaps. Regards, Ralf Agreed. I have moved to Debian 11 for this reason. I use Librewolf as a browser which /is available as a deb package Chris NZ -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] gimp-helping "not available" ...in Firefox 104.0.1
Hi, I think my next distribution for all my work will be even debian. Because there are no needs for snap or flatpak. My other PC with debian 11 works now for years with soundstudio - without aany problems.I think I will also convert my current and last Xubuntu PC to debian. With debian deb-packages can be installed as usual without all the big problems that snap and flatpack bring with them.Such limitations as Ubuntu currently has in my daily work are really not very usefull I gave up Windows years ago because I didn't find any restrictions in Linux for a long time, But I have the impression that Ubuntu is starting to become more and more commercialized and wants to do its own thing.This is not a good development for Linux. But it is only my opinion. bye hans * Am Montag, den 05.09.2022, 10:02 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: > > On 5. Sep 2022, at 09:35, Peter Flynn wrote: > > On 5 September 2022 06:07:27 Michael Hoehne > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Snaps are not allowed to use "/tmp" because of security issues. > > > > Does this mean (for example) that I would not be able to Save As... > > to /tmp (eg an image). > > > > If so, I'm going to need a snap-free distribution. That kind of > > restriction is fine for the amateur or novice, but has no place in > > the ecology otherwise. > > Hi, > > the good news, you can still save an image to /tmp, maybe not an > image shown by firefox, but by any app that isn’t a snap. > > The bad news, outside of the Ubuntu flavour universe snaps aren’t > accepted, due to the bad design. Alternatives such as flatpak are at > least a little bit tolerated. That snaps are advertised to be > supported by other distros is a blatant lie. The snap infrastructure > might be available by other distros, but snaps are usually unwanted. > > https://lists.claws-mail.org/pipermail/users/2022-September/030839.html > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2022-September/012659.html > > There are countless other issues caused by flatpak and Co., but > especially by snaps. To my knowledge it’s the worst of all. > > I need a snap free distribution, not because I care about the tmp > issue, just because I want a real long term support distribution > without regular packages that are replaced by a snap, flatpak or Co. > thingy. IOW I don’t know what distro to use for this purpose in the > future, but it will not be Unbuntu with snaps. > > Regards, > Ralf -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] gimp-helping "not available" ...in Firefox 104.0.1
On 5 September 2022 06:07:27 Michael Hoehne wrote: Snaps are not allowed to use "/tmp" because of security issues. Does this mean (for example) that I would not be able to Save As... to /tmp (eg an image). If so, I'm going to need a snap-free distribution. That kind of restriction is fine for the amateur or novice, but has no place in the ecology otherwise. Peter -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] gimp-helping "not available" ...in Firefox 104.0.1
Hello Hans, I had the same problem with the local helpfile from libreoffice. Since 22.04 Firefox is not a "normal" dep-Package but a "snap". Snaps are not allowed to use "/tmp" because of security issus. If Gimp has the same problem, you can switch to another Browser like Vivaldi or replace Firefox with Firefox-ESR. You could install vivaldi (https://vivaldi.com/de/download/) and make it the default-browser and make a test. If the hekp works, you can stay with vivaldi or uninstall it and switch to Firefox-ESR. This is a Link to my post in the (german) LO-Mailinglist: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/de/users/2022/msg00907.html Regards, Michael Am Sonntag, dem 04.09.2022 um 22:55 + schrieb Hans Schneidhofer: > hi xubuntu-users, > > although the gimp manual is installed locally, the help files cannot > be > called up in Firefox. 'File... cannot be found' is displayed in > Firefox. > > Strange, because I installed Debian 11 on a second computer, and I > just > installed Gimp there to test it. The help system works flawlessly - > without any error messages. > > The file permissions in /usr/share//2.0/help/de/ are exactly the > same on both computers. > Owned by root, and all set with -rw-r--r. So everything is original. > > Why doesn't this work with (X)ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS and with Debian 11 > does it work??? Does anyone of you have an idea why that is? > Or where could I look or which 'screws would I have to turn'? > > Thanks in advance for helping > > bye hans > > -- / / / / /__/ Michael Höhne / / / / / / mih-hoe...@web.de / / -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
