Re: [Yade-users] [Question #628632]: Modeling particle breakage in YADE

2017-04-30 Thread Tina Asia
Question #628632 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/628632

Status: Open => Solved

Tina Asia confirmed that the question is solved:
Thanks Jan,

I have got a desired porosity (about 0.27) packing using randomDensePack and 
growParticles. Thus, there is no need to write a function compressing irregular 
shapes. But, this packing always ‘explodes’ because of particles' 
penetrationDepth. I have searched some questions in LaunchPad, but those 
methods all failed. As my new question was posted here:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/630281


Thanks for your patience.
Regards,

Tina @ Yade

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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #630468]: CPMMat Stiffness formulation versus other cohesive laws

2017-04-30 Thread loiseaurare
Question #630468 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/630468

loiseaurare posted a new comment:
Hi Robert,

Thanks for the answer on the Aeq quantity, I suspected something like
that but was unsure...

Well, you've asked my second question, I also wonder why in the
formulation of this contact law he chose to use the minimum of the two.
Maybe the CPM mat was meant to be used for materials with an homogeneous
size distribution in the particles ? Or to model granular material at a
scale where particles do not represent material particles, and thus
might not need a specific size distribution. Then the difference of
radius between two given spheres could be neglected ?

However, since in this formulation the li~ equals Aeq over li, I am
right in assuming that the li distance corresponds to ri ?

Cheers,
Manon

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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #630468]: CPMMat Stiffness formulation versus other cohesive laws

2017-04-30 Thread Robert Caulk
Question #630468 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/630468

Status: Open => Answered

Robert Caulk proposed the following answer:
Hello Manon,

>And that is where I get lost. I do not understand the dimension of this
Aeq over li quantity. I think that in >the way it is expressed here, it
actually has no dimension, where it should have a m dimension ?

You've found a typo in the DEM background/Václav's thesis. It should
read "A_eq = pi * min(r1, r2)^2" since that is in fact what is used in
the concrete model [1]. The unit of stiffness is force/displacement or
in SI, N/m. So in this case, the units work out since E Pa * A_eq m^2/
l_i m  -> Pa*m = N/m.

I am curious though why he chose to use min(r1, r2). This seems like it
would skew the interaction stiffness distribution left resulting in a
less stiff specimen. At the end of the day, we always calibrate the
micro-properties to experimentally observed macro behavior. In this
case, we'd just have to compensate for that skewed distribution with a
different combination of micro-parameters. Idk maybe someone can shed
light on that.

[1]https://github.com/yade/trunk/blob/dafe23a8e34ab581edc0425d28290fc5ba591ce8/pkg/dem/ConcretePM.cpp#L315

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[Yade-users] [Question #630468]: CPMMat Stiffness formulation versus other cohesive laws

2017-04-30 Thread loiseaurare
New question #630468 on Yade:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/630468

Hi everybody, 

I have been browsing through the description of different cohesive contact 
laws, and I am now trying to understand the differences between JCFpmMat, 
CPMMat and cohFrictMat.

My question is on the formulation on the contact normal stiffness Kn, 

I read in the JcfPMMat and CPMMat description that this is defined by the 
function kn = 2*EcRaRB/(Ra+Rb)
Ec being the "Young modulus" parameter introduced in each of those contact 
laws, that actually does NOT define macroscopical youngs modulus. Ra and Rb 
being the radiuses of the two interacting particles.

In Dr Smilauer thesis, this formulation is introduced in a more general way, 
stating that kn in the algorithm is computed with the formula :

kn = k1k2/(K1 + K2)  => kn = E1l1~*E2l2~/(E1l1~+E2l2~) . Assuming that E1 and 
E2 are the same between the two particles, this yields

kn = E(l1~*l2~)/(l1~+l2~)

It is then precised in the thesis that for 'The most used class computing 
interaction properties Ip2_FrictMat_FrictMat_FrictPhys uses  ̃ l i~= 2ri. "

I think that Cohfrictmat and JcfPMat also use this formulation, am I correct ?

Then the concept of the equivalent cross section is introduced, as being 
another way to define the li~ length.

"Some formulations define an equivalent cross-section A eq , which in that case 
appears in the  li~ term 
as Ki = E i  * l i~ = Ei Aeq/li . Such is the case for the concrete model 
(Ip2_CpmMat_CpmMat_CpmPhys)
described later, where A eq = min(r 1 , r 2 ) "

And that is where I get lost. I do not understand the dimension of this Aeq 
over li quantity. I think that in the way it is expressed here, it actually has 
no dimension, where it should have a m dimension ?

If anybody can give a hint, I will appreciate ! 
Thanks in advance,
Manon


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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #266828]: How to reset the repulsive forces at the beginning of a compression test

2017-04-30 Thread loiseaurare
Question #266828 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/266828

loiseaurare posted a new comment:
Well, 
Thanks Bruno and Jerome, I understood this issue. I am still working on 
understanding how Yade fully works.

that's why I read archives !

Regards,

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