Re: [Yade-users] [Question #689015]: Simple question: calculating kn

2020-03-12 Thread mrhappy
Question #689015 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/689015

Status: Answered => Solved

mrhappy confirmed that the question is solved:
Thank you all for your explanation. I really appreciate it.

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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #689015]: Simple question: calculating kn

2020-03-05 Thread Chareyre
Question #689015 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/689015

Chareyre proposed the following answer:
Young in FrictMat does have the meaning of Young modulus in Hooke's law for
that material. «material» refering to granular material, not solid
constituent.
Bruno

Le mar. 3 mars. 2020 09:27, Jérôme Duriez <
question689...@answers.launchpad.net> a écrit :

> Question #689015 on Yade changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/689015
>
> Jérôme Duriez posted a new comment:
> Indeed, it may be better to state that FrictMat.young in this case does
> not have the same physical meaning, or physical interpretation, than
> Hooke's law Young modulus.
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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #689015]: Simple question: calculating kn

2020-03-03 Thread Jérôme Duriez
Question #689015 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/689015

Jérôme Duriez posted a new comment:
Indeed, it may be better to state that FrictMat.young in this case does
not have the same physical meaning, or physical interpretation, than
Hooke's law Young modulus.

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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #689015]: Simple question: calculating kn

2020-03-02 Thread Chareyre
Question #689015 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/689015

Chareyre proposed the following answer:
>  FrictMat.young has no physical meaning

This is defying my understanding of what can be called a physical meaning.
:)
I agree that reading documentation is better than arguing about unspecified
papers, anyway.
Bruno


Le lun. 2 mars. 2020 16:33, Jérôme Duriez <
question689...@answers.launchpad.net> a écrit :

> Question #689015 on Yade changed:
> https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/689015
>
> Jérôme Duriez proposed the following answer:
> Since FrictMat.young has no physical meaning when using
> Ip2_FrictMat_FrictMat_FrictPhys (which is understated here), another
> reason could be "why not 2, or even 10" ;-)
>
> This would just modify the input value for this stress-like stifness
> parameter. Where any input value, for any formulation with 2 or 10 or..
> , would be equally as correct as long as they give satisfactory results.
>
> PS : Would you feel more confortable reading [1] ? (which does reflect
> the source code at [2], and your observations)
>
> [1]
> https://yade-dem.org/doc/yade.wrapper.html#yade.wrapper.Ip2_FrictMat_FrictMat_FrictPhys
> [2]
> https://gitlab.com/yade-dev/trunk/-/blob/master/pkg/dem/FrictPhys.cpp#L37
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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #689015]: Simple question: calculating kn

2020-03-02 Thread Jérôme Duriez
Question #689015 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/689015

Jérôme Duriez proposed the following answer:
Since FrictMat.young has no physical meaning when using
Ip2_FrictMat_FrictMat_FrictPhys (which is understated here), another
reason could be "why not 2, or even 10" ;-)

This would just modify the input value for this stress-like stifness
parameter. Where any input value, for any formulation with 2 or 10 or..
, would be equally as correct as long as they give satisfactory results.

PS : Would you feel more confortable reading [1] ? (which does reflect
the source code at [2], and your observations)

[1] 
https://yade-dem.org/doc/yade.wrapper.html#yade.wrapper.Ip2_FrictMat_FrictMat_FrictPhys
[2] https://gitlab.com/yade-dev/trunk/-/blob/master/pkg/dem/FrictPhys.cpp#L37

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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #689015]: Simple question: calculating kn

2020-02-26 Thread Marcus Moravia
Question #689015 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/689015

Status: Open => Answered

Marcus Moravia proposed the following answer:
Hi,
the normal stiffness in the contact is calculated by the harmonic mean of the 
individual rigidities of the respective bodies. As the calculation is for two 
bodies in contact, behold, the number 2 appears in the numerator! I hope this 
helps,

Marcus.

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[Yade-users] [Question #689015]: Simple question: calculating kn

2020-02-26 Thread mrhappy
New question #689015 on Yade:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/689015

I have read in many journal papers using YADE [1] that kn = E*(Ra*Rb)/(Ra+Rb). 
However, when I use YADE and calculate kn, I get kn = 2*E*(Ra*Rb)/(Ra+Rb). I 
also read [2] and I did not see where the 2 is coming from. Can you help me 
identify it?

Thanks!

[1] A DEM model for soft and hard rocks: Role of grain interlocking on strength
[2] https://yade-dem.org/doc/formulation.html#kinematic-variables

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