Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 matthias posted a new comment: hi guys, i tried this proposal of post #40 with some surprising results. i ran 100 replication with 2 threads on an intel and an amd machine. cpu; data type;min;avg;max;std-dev Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770;double;0,1135;0,3479;0,3706;0,0248 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770;long double;0,3331;0,3555;0,3771;0,0070 AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor ; double;0,3346;0,3500;0,3613;0,0059 the long double version i compiled only on my intel machine, so there are no result for th amd machine. the realy surprising thing is, the amd results are similar to the intel long double ones. so on my machine i get an increase of accuracy. i have no explanation, why the results of the amd double experiment are significant better than the intel double results. so the overall conclusion is, it's depends on the cpu how good/accurate/noisy are the results. -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 matthias confirmed that the question is solved: Thanks Jan Stránský, that solved my question. -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Bruno Chareyre posted a new comment: The real meaning of double and long double is hardware dependent. Some 64-bits architectures will give long double when you ask double. Check below a random google result on this aspect. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8922216/why-are-double-and-long- double-completely-the-same-on-my-64-bit-machine -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
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matthias posted a new comment:
i think at this point, we should examine the impact of that data types.
so please propose somewhat like a model, number of spheres and
iterations,...
this is my proposal :
- maybe 5000 sphere are flowing out of an hopper over maybe 15 iterations.
not more sphere because of computation time.
- defining a objective Function. this function must defined on all spheres, if
its depends on only some sphere, the functions values are too noisy. the values
of #25 ware generated in the following way:
i defined a plane a little bit below the hopper. every i iterations (for i \in
{1...50}) is measure which sphere passed the plane and store that timestamp (or
iteration number). in the end of a run i calculate the std-dev on this set.
\ /
\**/
\*/
\/
\***/
**
---- measure timestamp here
++
this objective function should represent how 'compact' the spheres are
flowing out.
during a run could Fmean logged or somelike other...
maybe 50 or 100 replications per data type (wich 2 threads, because more
threads have too much overhead [and 8 threads are much slower then 4 threads,
using real parallel algorithms are a quiet good idea]) should be enough.
what do you think about this?
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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Bruno Chareyre posted a new comment: @Mattias, I don't have precise experiments to suggest unfortunately. I'm only speculating. I've read you *.ods sheet (thanks). If I guess correctly, what it shows is that indeterminacy is of similar amplitude on max force if you compare double runs between them and quad runs between them. My interpretation is that any small difference between two states gives completely different results after some time but at the same time the result is bounded by physical constraints. So what you see is not the magnitude of rounding errors, it is the range of physically acceptable configurations, as if indeterminacy was deeply rooted in the problem. Now the thing that doesn't fit in this picture is #25, where you find different behaviour for the bulk material. A question is if the difference in std deviation is obtained with a sufficient number of results. It may be just luck that you get a smaller one with quads. -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 matthias posted a new comment: could you (as far as your time allows) please check indeterminism differences (double vs. long double) with maximum/minimum body forces at particles? e.g. at end of your simulation ... could you define your desired data? maybe post a funcion which i can apply on my simulation runs -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Christian Jakob posted a new comment: maxF = 0.0 minF = 1e9 for b in O.bodies: F = O.forces.f(b.id) maxF = max(maxF,F.norm()) minF = min(minF,F.norm()) -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 matthias posted a new comment: ok, i will do this. but is takes some time -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 matthias posted a new comment: so, i did some runs with long double and double with 1,2 and 4 threads. at the beginning, the and and every 1000 iterations i run that code from above. the result is ambiguous. i can't see any difference. @christian i mail you that raw data, maybe you could find whatever you look for -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Bruno Chareyre posted a new comment: can't see any difference means the results are all exactly the same in all simulations, or there is approximately the same indeterminism with double and quad? I would not be really surprised by the latest. It was actually my first guess when you came up with this question on quad precision. Still to confirm with more stats. -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 matthias posted a new comment: but bruno, you can propose some other experiements to test that approach -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Status: Answered = Solved matthias confirmed that the question is solved: yes with the minieigen version of yade the compilation and running works. here is a first taste of long double results long double double 0,8793 0,8334 0,8826 0,8805 0,8223 0,8457 0,9297 0,8808 0,8313 0,9003 0,9039 0,822 0,912 0,8958 0,8637 0,9246 0,8718 0,9153 0,8667 0,8409 0,858 0,8328 0,8658 0,8103 0,8481 0,8625 0,8457 0,8766 0,8598 0,8574 0,8667 0,9744 0,9195 0,7809 0,9144 0,8151 0,9276 0,8172 0,879 0,864 mean0,8773950,861525 median 0,86925 0,85995 std 0,03130719570,0460952889 so the long double version of yade has a quite lower standard deviation of a fitness function defined on a model. this is of course no general result, but it helps me to run fewer replications through an optimization -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Bruno Chareyre posted a new comment: Interesting. Thanks for feedback. Would you tell us again what sort of calculation that is? -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Christian Jakob posted a new comment: std 0,0313071957 0,0460952889 hi matthias, thanks for this interesting results. that means quad precision shows nearly no effect on standard deviation in multithreading? amazing! Cheers, Christian -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 matthias posted a new comment: @Christian this standard deviation is the standard deviation of the posted data columns. so of course, also long double multithreaded simulation is affected by floating point indeterminism, but fewer than double or single floats i test this with 1000 clumps (with 3 spheres) flowing through an hopper within my packaging machine model during 183335 iteration, this data values are fitness values whichs represent how 'compact' the particles flow through the hopper more details next week -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Christian Jakob posted a new comment: this standard deviation is the standard deviation of the posted data columns. yes, i followed this discussion from the beginning. so of course, also long double multithreaded simulation is affected by floating point indeterminism, but fewer than double or single floats right. i meant, that the difference 0,046 - 0,031 = 0,015 is not as high as expected (at least by me). could you (as far as your time allows) please check indeterminism differences (double vs. long double) with maximum/minimum body forces at particles? e.g. at end of your simulation ... -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Jan Stránský posted a new comment: On the other hand, (stdDevNew-stdDevOld)/stdDevNew =approx 1/2, which might be considerable.. Cheers Jan Dne 11.10.2013 17:46 Christian Jakob question233...@answers.launchpad.net napsal(a): Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Christian Jakob posted a new comment: this standard deviation is the standard deviation of the posted data columns. yes, i followed this discussion from the beginning. so of course, also long double multithreaded simulation is affected by floating point indeterminism, but fewer than double or single floats right. i meant, that the difference 0,046 - 0,031 = 0,015 is not as high as expected (at least by me). could you (as far as your time allows) please check indeterminism differences (double vs. long double) with maximum/minimum body forces at particles? e.g. at end of your simulation ... -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Status: Answered = Open matthias is still having a problem: Hi Jan, now I'm back and read this good message. I tried this immediately to compile it. the actual trunk will not work, so i tried the revision of 23th august. Compilation finishes (with some warnings)...fine. But starting yadequad ends up with a python error: Welcome to Yade Unknown Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/bin/yadequad, line 115, in module import yade File /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/yadequad/py/yade/__init__.py, line 93, in module import utils # some others? File /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/yadequad/py/yade/utils.py, line 27, in module from yade._utils import * TypeError: No to_python (by-value) converter found for C++ type: Eigen::Matrixlong double, 3, 1, 0, 3, 1 -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Status: Open = Answered Jan Stránský proposed the following answer: Good point, I only focused on compilation, not startup :-) I will try to do the update, but currently I am a bit busy, so I am not sure when it will be.. cheers Jan 2013/9/9 matthias question233...@answers.launchpad.net Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Status: Answered = Open matthias is still having a problem: Hi Jan, now I'm back and read this good message. I tried this immediately to compile it. the actual trunk will not work, so i tried the revision of 23th august. Compilation finishes (with some warnings)...fine. But starting yadequad ends up with a python error: Welcome to Yade Unknown Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/bin/yadequad, line 115, in module import yade File /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/yadequad/py/yade/__init__.py, line 93, in module import utils # some others? File /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/yadequad/py/yade/utils.py, line 27, in module from yade._utils import * TypeError: No to_python (by-value) converter found for C++ type: Eigen::Matrixlong double, 3, 1, 0, 3, 1 -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed:
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Status: Answered = Open
matthias is still having a problem:
this is a try from yesterdays newly checked out trunk with disabled GUI
CGAL GTS PFVflow (sometimes PFVflow enables CGAL because its dependency,
maybe this is the reason, why CGAL is erroneously picked up)
In file included from /home/yade/trunk/lib.0.cpp:8:0:
/home/yade/trunk/lib/opengl/GLUtils.cpp: In statischer Elementfunktion »static
void GLUtils::QGLViewer::drawArrow(const Vector3r, const Vector3r, float,
int)«:
/home/yade/trunk/lib/opengl/GLUtils.cpp:56:43: Fehler:
»Eigen::PlainObjectBaseEigen::Matrixlong double, 3, 3 ::Scalar* {aka long
double*}« kann nicht nach »const GLdouble* {aka const double*}« für Argument
»1« nach »void glMultMatrixd(const GLdouble*)« umgewandelt werden
the next two weeks i'm on vacations, but in the 2nd september week, i'm
with my (annoying) questions
matthias
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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
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Status: Open = Answered
Jan Stránský proposed the following answer:
I will have a look and try to repair all places with this problem. Two
weeks should be enogh time :-)
Jan
2013/8/23 matthias question233...@answers.launchpad.net
Question #233320 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320
Status: Answered = Open
matthias is still having a problem:
this is a try from yesterdays newly checked out trunk with disabled GUI
CGAL GTS PFVflow (sometimes PFVflow enables CGAL because its dependency,
maybe this is the reason, why CGAL is erroneously picked up)
In file included from /home/yade/trunk/lib.0.cpp:8:0:
/home/yade/trunk/lib/opengl/GLUtils.cpp: In statischer Elementfunktion
»static void GLUtils::QGLViewer::drawArrow(const Vector3r, const
Vector3r, float, int)«:
/home/yade/trunk/lib/opengl/GLUtils.cpp:56:43: Fehler:
»Eigen::PlainObjectBaseEigen::Matrixlong double, 3, 3 ::Scalar* {aka
long double*}« kann nicht nach »const GLdouble* {aka const double*}« für
Argument »1« nach »void glMultMatrixd(const GLdouble*)« umgewandelt werden
the next two weeks i'm on vacations, but in the 2nd september week, i'm
with my (annoying) questions
matthias
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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
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Jan Stránský proposed the following answer:
By the way, would it be ok for you to change the language of compiler
errors to English? :-)
2013/8/23 Jan Stránský question233...@answers.launchpad.net
Question #233320 on Yade changed:
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Status: Open = Answered
Jan Stránský proposed the following answer:
I will have a look and try to repair all places with this problem. Two
weeks should be enogh time :-)
Jan
2013/8/23 matthias question233...@answers.launchpad.net
Question #233320 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320
Status: Answered = Open
matthias is still having a problem:
this is a try from yesterdays newly checked out trunk with disabled GUI
CGAL GTS PFVflow (sometimes PFVflow enables CGAL because its dependency,
maybe this is the reason, why CGAL is erroneously picked up)
In file included from /home/yade/trunk/lib.0.cpp:8:0:
/home/yade/trunk/lib/opengl/GLUtils.cpp: In statischer Elementfunktion
»static void GLUtils::QGLViewer::drawArrow(const Vector3r, const
Vector3r, float, int)«:
/home/yade/trunk/lib/opengl/GLUtils.cpp:56:43: Fehler:
»Eigen::PlainObjectBaseEigen::Matrixlong double, 3, 3 ::Scalar* {aka
long double*}« kann nicht nach »const GLdouble* {aka const double*}« für
Argument »1« nach »void glMultMatrixd(const GLdouble*)« umgewandelt
werden
the next two weeks i'm on vacations, but in the 2nd september week, i'm
with my (annoying) questions
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matthias posted a new comment:
yes of course, I translate this error messages, some mesages from gcc
are english some german...
In file included from /home/yade/trunk/lib.0.cpp:8:0:
/home/yade/trunk/lib/opengl/GLUtils.cpp: in static elementary function
»static void GLUtils::QGLViewer::drawArrow(const Vector3r, const Vector3r,
float, int)«:
/home/yade/trunk/lib/opengl/GLUtils.cpp:56:43: Error:
»Eigen::PlainObjectBaseEigen::Matrixlong double, 3, 3 ::Scalar* {aka
long double*}« could not be converted from
»constGLdouble* {aka const double*}« argument »1« to »void
glMultMatrixd(const GLdouble*)«
GTS and GUI have some type errors, too. but these features i do not need
for automatic optimization
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Jan Stránský proposed the following answer:
This error was understandable, but for future please use english :-) I will
correct all problems (including gts and vtk), except for cgal related
files, that ones maybe later..
Jan
2013/8/23 matthias question233...@answers.launchpad.net
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matthias posted a new comment:
yes of course, I translate this error messages, some mesages from gcc
are english some german...
In file included from /home/yade/trunk/lib.0.cpp:8:0:
/home/yade/trunk/lib/opengl/GLUtils.cpp: in static elementary function
»static void GLUtils::QGLViewer::drawArrow(const Vector3r, const
Vector3r, float, int)«:
/home/yade/trunk/lib/opengl/GLUtils.cpp:56:43: Error:
»Eigen::PlainObjectBaseEigen::Matrixlong double, 3, 3 ::Scalar*
{aka long double*}« could not be converted from
»constGLdouble* {aka const double*}« argument »1« to »void
glMultMatrixd(const GLdouble*)«
GTS and GUI have some type errors, too. but these features i do not need
for automatic optimization
Matthias
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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed:
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Jan Stránský proposed the following answer:
Hi Matthias,
with the newest git version (and disabling CGAL and PFVflow) it should be
possible to compile yade with QUAD_PRECISION defined. Please note that
still it is only experimental feature.
cheers
Jan
2013/8/23 Jan Stránský question233...@answers.launchpad.net
Question #233320 on Yade changed:
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Jan Stránský proposed the following answer:
This error was understandable, but for future please use english :-) I will
correct all problems (including gts and vtk), except for cgal related
files, that ones maybe later..
Jan
2013/8/23 matthias question233...@answers.launchpad.net
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matthias posted a new comment:
yes of course, I translate this error messages, some mesages from gcc
are english some german...
In file included from /home/yade/trunk/lib.0.cpp:8:0:
/home/yade/trunk/lib/opengl/GLUtils.cpp: in static elementary function
»static void GLUtils::QGLViewer::drawArrow(const Vector3r, const
Vector3r, float, int)«:
/home/yade/trunk/lib/opengl/GLUtils.cpp:56:43: Error:
»Eigen::PlainObjectBaseEigen::Matrixlong double, 3, 3 ::Scalar*
{aka long double*}« could not be converted from
»constGLdouble* {aka const double*}« argument »1« to »void
glMultMatrixd(const GLdouble*)«
GTS and GUI have some type errors, too. but these features i do not need
for automatic optimization
Matthias
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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 matthias posted a new comment: Yes, i did this. CGAL was not in the feature list -- CGAL NOT found -- CGAL NOT found: PFVFLOW disabled -- Yade configured with following features: Eigen3 VTK OpenMP GTS GUI GL2PS -- Disabled features: CGAL PFVflow LinSolv You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Bruno Chareyre proposed the following answer: So, this is compilation bug, sorry. :( CMake should not even read the triangulation folder when CGAL is disabled. Not sure if the bug was here for quite a long time or if recent changes in the build system are the cause. We will have to find out. I think you can simply delete al files in lib/triangulation to be sure the compiler will not try anything with them. B -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Status: Answered = Open matthias is still having a problem: there is also an error /home/yade/trunk/lib.6.cpp:1:58: Schwerwiegender Fehler: /home/yade/trunk/lib/triangulation/Tenseur3.cpp: File or Directory not found -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Status: Open = Answered Bruno Chareyre proposed the following answer: Then goto #7. Try a fresh build You cannot have /home/yade/trunk/lib.6.cpp pointing to Tenseur3.cpp if it is not in sources. Fresh means delete completely what's in your build directory, then cmake. There is maybe be no compilation bug. -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Anton Gladky proposed the following answer: 2013/8/21 Bruno Chareyre question233...@answers.launchpad.net Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Bruno Chareyre proposed the following answer: So, this is compilation bug, sorry. :( CMake should not even read the triangulation folder when CGAL is disabled. Not sure if the bug was here for quite a long time or if recent changes in the build system are the cause. We will have to find out. From my point of view, there is no bug. Files in triangulation-folder should be picked up only if CGAL and GMP are found and CGAL is enabled [1]. But it should be tested in a clean build-directory, of course. [1] https://github.com/yade/trunk/blob/master/CMakeLists.txt#L201 Cheers, Anton -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Bruno Chareyre posted a new comment: Files in triangulation-folder should be picked up only if CGAL and GMP are found and CGAL is enabled Exactly. Then I thought to a bug because it was picked up without CGAL. I suspect this was only due to a dirty build dir. Matthias will tell us. -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Status: Answered = Open matthias is still having a problem: what is the state of this issue? i tried to compile yae this morning again, but the error is still the same matthias -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Status: Open = Answered Jan Stránský proposed the following answer: Hello Mathias, the status of the problem did not change. The problem is in yade/lib/triangulation/def_types.h file, which I have no experience with. Therefore we need some advice/hint from somebody a bit familiar with it.. cheers Jan 2013/8/20 matthias question233...@answers.launchpad.net Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Status: Answered = Open matthias is still having a problem: what is the state of this issue? i tried to compile yae this morning again, but the error is still the same matthias -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Bruno Chareyre proposed the following answer: Hi, Yes, the template parameters of the CGAL module can surely be changed. I confess it is not quite cleanly implemented. Plus even if I asked my students to use Real everywhere, they keep typing some double in their code, so that there is a tedious handwork to switch all the number types. Fortunately for Mathias, this would be overkill to change the number types in this part of the code. Disable CGAL feature at compile time, then def_types.h will be ignored. :) Bruno -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 matthias posted a new comment: disabling of CGAL leads to this error In file included from /home/yade/trunk/lib/triangulation/Tenseur3.h:4:0, from /home/yade/trunk/lib/triangulation/Tenseur3.cpp:2, from /home/yade/trunk/lib.6.cpp:1: /home/yade/trunk/lib/triangulation/def_types.h:37:1: Fehler: Ungültige Anwendung von »sizeof« auf unvollständigen Typen »boost::STATIC_ASSERTION_FAILUREfalse« /home/yade/trunk/lib/triangulation/def_types.h:37:1: Fehler: Templateargument 1 ist ungültig /home/yade/trunk/lib/triangulation/def_types.h:37:54: Fehler: invalid type in declaration before »;« token maybe this issue is in some more type definitions matthias -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Bruno Chareyre proposed the following answer: You did not disable it apparently. Try a fresh build and make sure cgal is disabled by inspecting cmake output (enabled/disabled features are listed at the end of the output). -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Jan Stránský proposed the following answer: Hello (Bruno), the problem (as Matthias' error says) in file yade/lib/triangulation/def_types.h. Specifically sizeof(Traits::RT) does not equal long double (which is typedefed as Real in lib/base/Math.hpp). Would it be somehow possible to use TraitsReal instead of Real in the plasces where it is used in lib/trangulation? Or possibly some conversion from long double to ordinary double where it would be needed? cheers Jan 2013/8/1 Jan Stránský question233...@answers.launchpad.net Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Status: Open = Answered Jan Stránský proposed the following answer: Hello Matthias, I will have a look and try to compile yade with QUAD_PRECISION defined trying to eliminate all errors. Unfortunately currently I am a bit busy, so probably it won't be finished this week. But should be beginning of the next week, I will inform you :-) cheers Jan 2013/7/31 matthias question233...@answers.launchpad.net New question #233320 on Yade: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 I want to compile yade with quad precision (-DCMAKE_CXX_FLAGS=-DQUAD_PRECISION). my nummerical stability problem is still not solved. I tried it with some different fitness function. this reduces the impact of the instability, but solves not the problem. So I need more precision. While compiling yade I get some of these errors: In file included from /home/yade/trunk/yade/lib/triangulation/RegularTriangulation.h:10:0, from /home/yade/trunk/yade/lib/triangulation/Tesselation.h:9, from /home/yade/trunk/yade/lib/triangulation/TriaxialState.h:16, from /home/yade/trunk/yade/lib/triangulation/KinematicLocalisationAnalyser.hpp:15, from /home/yade/trunk/pkg/dem/MicroMacroAnalyser.cpp:16: /home/yade/trunk/yade/lib/triangulation/def_types.h:37:1: Fehler: Ungültige Anwendung von »sizeof« auf unvollständigen Typen »boost::STATIC_ASSERTION_FAILUREfalse« /home/yade/trunk/yade/lib/triangulation/def_types.h:37:1: Fehler: Templateargument 1 ist ungültig /home/yade/trunk/yade/lib/triangulation/def_types.h:37:54: Fehler: invalid type in declaration before »;« token /home/yade/trunk/pkg/dem/MicroMacroAnalyser.cpp: In Elementfunktion »CGT::TriaxialState MicroMacroAnalyser::makeState(unsigned int, const char*)«: /home/yade/trunk/pkg/dem/MicroMacroAnalyser.cpp:141:61: Fehler: keine passende Funktion für Aufruf von »min(const result_type, long double)« I know i want to use an experimental feature. But is there a version which could be build with this option, or must I repair the code be hand. -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Yade-users] [Question #233320]: compiling with quad precision
Question #233320 on Yade changed: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 Status: Open = Answered Jan Stránský proposed the following answer: Hello Matthias, I will have a look and try to compile yade with QUAD_PRECISION defined trying to eliminate all errors. Unfortunately currently I am a bit busy, so probably it won't be finished this week. But should be beginning of the next week, I will inform you :-) cheers Jan 2013/7/31 matthias question233...@answers.launchpad.net New question #233320 on Yade: https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/233320 I want to compile yade with quad precision (-DCMAKE_CXX_FLAGS=-DQUAD_PRECISION). my nummerical stability problem is still not solved. I tried it with some different fitness function. this reduces the impact of the instability, but solves not the problem. So I need more precision. While compiling yade I get some of these errors: In file included from /home/yade/trunk/yade/lib/triangulation/RegularTriangulation.h:10:0, from /home/yade/trunk/yade/lib/triangulation/Tesselation.h:9, from /home/yade/trunk/yade/lib/triangulation/TriaxialState.h:16, from /home/yade/trunk/yade/lib/triangulation/KinematicLocalisationAnalyser.hpp:15, from /home/yade/trunk/pkg/dem/MicroMacroAnalyser.cpp:16: /home/yade/trunk/yade/lib/triangulation/def_types.h:37:1: Fehler: Ungültige Anwendung von »sizeof« auf unvollständigen Typen »boost::STATIC_ASSERTION_FAILUREfalse« /home/yade/trunk/yade/lib/triangulation/def_types.h:37:1: Fehler: Templateargument 1 ist ungültig /home/yade/trunk/yade/lib/triangulation/def_types.h:37:54: Fehler: invalid type in declaration before »;« token /home/yade/trunk/pkg/dem/MicroMacroAnalyser.cpp: In Elementfunktion »CGT::TriaxialState MicroMacroAnalyser::makeState(unsigned int, const char*)«: /home/yade/trunk/pkg/dem/MicroMacroAnalyser.cpp:141:61: Fehler: keine passende Funktion für Aufruf von »min(const result_type, long double)« I know i want to use an experimental feature. But is there a version which could be build with this option, or must I repair the code be hand. -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- You received this question notification because you are a member of yade-users, which is an answer contact for Yade. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~yade-users Post to : yade-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~yade-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
