[jira] [Commented] (YARN-673) Remove yarn-default.xml

2013-05-13 Thread Siddharth Seth (JIRA)

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Siddharth Seth commented on YARN-673:
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[~hitesh] That works as well. We can then defer generating separate 
documentation.

bq. Currently the default.xml files are XSDed and avail in the docs 
http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/r2.0.4-alpha/index.html , see the last section 
'Configuration' in the side menu
Thanks for pointing that out. We could use what Hitesh mentioned - and continue 
to leave the *-default.xml files for documentation. Later, these could be 
converted to match the rest of the documentation if required.



> Remove yarn-default.xml
> ---
>
> Key: YARN-673
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/YARN-673
> Project: Hadoop YARN
>  Issue Type: Improvement
>Reporter: Siddharth Seth
>
> The default configuration files serve 2 purposes
> 1. Documenting available config parameters, and their default values.
> 2. Specifying default values for these parameters.
> An xml file hidden inside a jar is not necessarily the best way to document 
> parameters. This could be moved into the documentation itself.
> Default values already exist in code for most parameters. There's no need to 
> specify them in two places. We need to make sure defaults exist for all 
> parameters before attempting this.
> Having default configuration files just bloats job conf files; over 450 
> parameters, out of which <20 are likely job specific params. JobConf files 
> end up being rather big, and the memory footprint of the conf object is large 
> (>300KB last I checked).

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[jira] [Commented] (YARN-673) Remove yarn-default.xml

2013-05-13 Thread Alejandro Abdelnur (JIRA)

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Alejandro Abdelnur commented on YARN-673:
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Currently the default.xml files are XSDed and avail in the docs 
http://hadoop.apache.org/docs/r2.0.4-alpha/index.html , see the last section 
'Configuration' in the side menu

> Remove yarn-default.xml
> ---
>
> Key: YARN-673
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/YARN-673
> Project: Hadoop YARN
>  Issue Type: Improvement
>Reporter: Siddharth Seth
>
> The default configuration files serve 2 purposes
> 1. Documenting available config parameters, and their default values.
> 2. Specifying default values for these parameters.
> An xml file hidden inside a jar is not necessarily the best way to document 
> parameters. This could be moved into the documentation itself.
> Default values already exist in code for most parameters. There's no need to 
> specify them in two places. We need to make sure defaults exist for all 
> parameters before attempting this.
> Having default configuration files just bloats job conf files; over 450 
> parameters, out of which <20 are likely job specific params. JobConf files 
> end up being rather big, and the memory footprint of the conf object is large 
> (>300KB last I checked).

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[jira] [Commented] (YARN-673) Remove yarn-default.xml

2013-05-13 Thread Hitesh Shah (JIRA)

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Hitesh Shah commented on YARN-673:
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How about:

{code}
--- 
hadoop-yarn-project/hadoop-yarn/hadoop-yarn-common/src/main/java/org/apache/hadoop/yarn/conf/YarnConfiguration.java
+++ 
hadoop-yarn-project/hadoop-yarn/hadoop-yarn-common/src/main/java/org/apache/hadoop/yarn/conf/YarnConfiguration.java
@@ -38,7 +38,6 @@
   private static final String YARN_SITE_XML_FILE = "yarn-site.xml";
 
   static {
-Configuration.addDefaultResource(YARN_DEFAULT_XML_FILE);
 Configuration.addDefaultResource(YARN_SITE_XML_FILE);
   }
{code}

And optionally also, move yarn-default.xml out of the jar and make it part of 
the tar/rpm under a conf.default/ directory.

> Remove yarn-default.xml
> ---
>
> Key: YARN-673
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/YARN-673
> Project: Hadoop YARN
>  Issue Type: Improvement
>Reporter: Siddharth Seth
>
> The default configuration files serve 2 purposes
> 1. Documenting available config parameters, and their default values.
> 2. Specifying default values for these parameters.
> An xml file hidden inside a jar is not necessarily the best way to document 
> parameters. This could be moved into the documentation itself.
> Default values already exist in code for most parameters. There's no need to 
> specify them in two places. We need to make sure defaults exist for all 
> parameters before attempting this.
> Having default configuration files just bloats job conf files; over 450 
> parameters, out of which <20 are likely job specific params. JobConf files 
> end up being rather big, and the memory footprint of the conf object is large 
> (>300KB last I checked).

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[jira] [Commented] (YARN-673) Remove yarn-default.xml

2013-05-13 Thread Siddharth Seth (JIRA)

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Siddharth Seth commented on YARN-673:
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The documentation will be part of the source tree, so keeping it up to date 
should not be any tougher. Grepping through *-default.xml is really only for 
developers - and that should be possible on the documentation as well. Since 
these files sit insider jars - I don't see how they serve as documentation iac. 

> Remove yarn-default.xml
> ---
>
> Key: YARN-673
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/YARN-673
> Project: Hadoop YARN
>  Issue Type: Improvement
>Reporter: Siddharth Seth
>
> The default configuration files serve 2 purposes
> 1. Documenting available config parameters, and their default values.
> 2. Specifying default values for these parameters.
> An xml file hidden inside a jar is not necessarily the best way to document 
> parameters. This could be moved into the documentation itself.
> Default values already exist in code for most parameters. There's no need to 
> specify them in two places. We need to make sure defaults exist for all 
> parameters before attempting this.
> Having default configuration files just bloats job conf files; over 450 
> parameters, out of which <20 are likely job specific params. JobConf files 
> end up being rather big, and the memory footprint of the conf object is large 
> (>300KB last I checked).

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[jira] [Commented] (YARN-673) Remove yarn-default.xml

2013-05-10 Thread Karthik Kambatla (JIRA)

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Karthik Kambatla commented on YARN-673:
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While I understand that having two different default values in the default.xml 
and code could be error-prone, I believe we should be careful about removing 
yarn-default.xml altogether. Particularly because moving it further from the 
code would make it even harder to ensure the documentation reflects the same 
default as the code. Also, it is a lot easier to grep through default.xml for 
defaults than documentation.

> Remove yarn-default.xml
> ---
>
> Key: YARN-673
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/YARN-673
> Project: Hadoop YARN
>  Issue Type: Improvement
>Reporter: Siddharth Seth
>
> The default configuration files serve 2 purposes
> 1. Documenting available config parameters, and their default values.
> 2. Specifying default values for these parameters.
> An xml file hidden inside a jar is not necessarily the best way to document 
> parameters. This could be moved into the documentation itself.
> Default values already exist in code for most parameters. There's no need to 
> specify them in two places. We need to make sure defaults exist for all 
> parameters before attempting this.
> Having default configuration files just bloats job conf files; over 450 
> parameters, out of which <20 are likely job specific params. JobConf files 
> end up being rather big, and the memory footprint of the conf object is large 
> (>300KB last I checked).

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