Re: [ydl-gen] Noisy fan on Power G5 and YDL 6.2

2012-11-15 Thread Dimitar Georgievski
I tried sysctl -w kernel.powersave-nap = 1, and, unfortunately, it didn't
help.

The option with patching the kernel with an older version didn't seem worth
to me considering the potential to break other functionality of the kernel.

The problem was solved by installing Debian 6.0.6 (squeeze) for ppc64.  It
is not just that Debian resolved the fan issue , but GNOME desktop
environment works visibly better on Debian. With YDL 6.2 the transitions of
open windows, dragging them on the screen or closing them, were not smooth.

Too bad support for YDL was discontinued.  One of the reason I wanted to
try YDL was because of Y-HPC. It looks like this product was dropped as
well. Does any know what happened to it?

I've read that IBM and RedHat work together to bring Fedora, and by
extension RedHat, on PowerPPC architecture.  I just installed successfully
IBM Java 7 on my G5. Hopefully this collaboration could revive the interest
in YDL.

Thank you all for your help!

Dimitar



On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 3:16 PM, ra...@travelinglightfarm.net wrote:

 When my dual 2.0 G5 tower was still alive (died w/memory controller
 problem in '11) I never noticed fan problems except with the first several
 G5 releases from YDL.  I had YDL6 (6.1 I *think*) on it last and it was
 ok.  The initial releases when the G5 first came out had zero fan control,
 and the box might have taken off given wings and wheels.

 -Rob


  He mentioned that it's a Power G5 1.8GHz which would be a G5 desktop,
  not
  a PowerBook.
 
  I don't recall if fan speed control was ever fully functional on the G5
  tower. IIRC only Apple portables had power management facilities in the
  kernel.
 
  -Hal
  Am 13.11.2012 14:42 schrieb Robert T. Drury rtdr...@earthlink.net:
 
  **
  I gained control of the fan but there was nothing really I could do with
  that except smooth out the fan start/stop, which really wasn't enough.
  You
  need the fan to run as set at the factory to control the temperature, so
  if
  the fan is too loud, look for replacement fans that are quieter.  I'm
  very
  puzzled as to why Apple chose to put noisy fans in the powerbooks.
 
 
  Dimitar Georgievski wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
   I just installed YDL on my Power G5 1.8 GHz and the fan is out of
  control. It produces so much noise that after couple of minutes I have
  to
  shut down the computer.
 
   Is there any fix for this issue? I noticed on older posts in the forums
  users have experienced similar issues in the past. From their replies it
  doesn't look like there is an official fix for this issue yet.
 
   Here is the info about my Mac
 
   $ cat /proc/cpuinfo
  processor : 0
  cpu : PPC970FX, altivec supported
  clock : 1800.00MHz
  revision : 3.0 (pvr 003c 0300)
 
   timebase : 
  platform : PowerMac
  model : PowerMac9,1
  machine : PowerMac9,1
  motherboard : PowerMac9,1 MacRISC4 Power Macintosh
  detected as : 337 (PowerMac G5)
  pmac flags : 
  L2 cache : 512K unified
  pmac-generation : NewWorld
 
   $ uname -a
  Linux myhost 2.6.29-3.ydl61.4 #1 SMP Mon Sep 7 14:50:27 PDT 2009 ppc64
  ppc64 ppc64 GNU/Linux
 
   thanks,
 
   Dimitar
 
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Re: [ydl-gen] Noisy fan on Power G5 and YDL 6.2

2012-11-14 Thread Derick Centeno
Hi Dimitar!

As you may know YDL was originally created by Terra Soft Solutions
(TSS), which was absorbed or bought by Fixstars.  Long story short,
provided great support for all versions of YDL, which was continued by
Fixstars, for some years.  Official support for YDL ended quite some
years ago (at least 8).

You can still find however their support notes and advisories.  I'm
going to share the link addressing your particular problem.  The
difficulty you may face is that the last release for YDL for any
PowerPC system was YDL 6.2.

The fix created to address the fan problem was designed for YDL 4.1
which required the use of a specifically designed kernel (the link is
provided in the explanation) your problem will be - does the link still
work and does the kernel TSS produced still exist!

Unfortunately, I am not running YDL on a G5, I run YDL 6.2 from a
Powerbook.  So other than providing the link to this reference
material I cannot help you further.  Feel free however to reference
the other links and references you can find which address your G5
specific queries.

One more thing, Fixstars is not providing any support; the days when
TSS or Fixstars engineers provided suggestions or guidance on PowerPC
systems is long over.  Therefore what you can find online as reference
is all that is left.

Here is the link addressing the G5 fan resolution, Good Luck!

http://www.ydl.net/support/solutions/ydl_4.x/fan-control.shtml

Sincerely, Derick Centeno 

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:28:58 -0500
Dimitar Georgievski mitk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I just installed YDL on my Power G5 1.8 GHz and the fan is out of
 control. It produces so much noise that after couple of minutes I
 have to shut down the computer.
 
 Is there any fix for this issue? I noticed on older posts in the
 forums users have experienced similar issues in the past. From their
 replies it doesn't look like there is an official fix for this issue
 yet.
 
 Here is the info about my Mac
 
 $ cat /proc/cpuinfo
 processor : 0
 cpu : PPC970FX, altivec supported
 clock : 1800.00MHz
 revision : 3.0 (pvr 003c 0300)
 
 timebase : 
 platform : PowerMac
 model : PowerMac9,1
 machine : PowerMac9,1
 motherboard : PowerMac9,1 MacRISC4 Power Macintosh
 detected as : 337 (PowerMac G5)
 pmac flags : 
 L2 cache : 512K unified
 pmac-generation : NewWorld
 
 $ uname -a
 Linux myhost 2.6.29-3.ydl61.4 #1 SMP Mon Sep 7 14:50:27 PDT 2009 ppc64
 ppc64 ppc64 GNU/Linux
 
 thanks,
 
 Dimitar



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Re: [ydl-gen] Noisy fan on Power G5 and YDL 6.2

2012-11-14 Thread Danny Hembree
sysctl -w kernel.powersave-nap = 1

will quiet the fans down. You can put it in /etc/sysctl.conf to preserve
the setting across boots.

On Tue, 2012-11-13 at 12:28 -0500, Dimitar Georgievski wrote:
 Hi,
 
 
 I just installed YDL on my Power G5 1.8 GHz and the fan is out of
 control. It produces so much noise that after couple of minutes I have
 to shut down the computer.
 
 
 Is there any fix for this issue? I noticed on older posts in the
 forums users have experienced similar issues in the past. From their
 replies it doesn't look like there is an official fix for this issue
 yet.
 
 
 Here is the info about my Mac
 
 
 $ cat /proc/cpuinfo 
 processor : 0
 cpu : PPC970FX, altivec supported
 clock : 1800.00MHz
 revision : 3.0 (pvr 003c 0300)
 
 
 timebase : 
 platform : PowerMac
 model : PowerMac9,1
 machine : PowerMac9,1
 motherboard : PowerMac9,1 MacRISC4 Power Macintosh 
 detected as : 337 (PowerMac G5)
 pmac flags : 
 L2 cache : 512K unified
 pmac-generation : NewWorld
 
 
 $ uname -a
 Linux myhost 2.6.29-3.ydl61.4 #1 SMP Mon Sep 7 14:50:27 PDT 2009 ppc64
 ppc64 ppc64 GNU/Linux
 
 
 thanks,
 
 
 Dimitar
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Re: [ydl-gen] Noisy fan on Power G5 and YDL 6.2

2012-11-14 Thread rarob
When my dual 2.0 G5 tower was still alive (died w/memory controller
problem in '11) I never noticed fan problems except with the first several
G5 releases from YDL.  I had YDL6 (6.1 I *think*) on it last and it was
ok.  The initial releases when the G5 first came out had zero fan control,
and the box might have taken off given wings and wheels.

-Rob


 He mentioned that it's a Power G5 1.8GHz which would be a G5 desktop,
 not
 a PowerBook.

 I don't recall if fan speed control was ever fully functional on the G5
 tower. IIRC only Apple portables had power management facilities in the
 kernel.

 -Hal
 Am 13.11.2012 14:42 schrieb Robert T. Drury rtdr...@earthlink.net:

 **
 I gained control of the fan but there was nothing really I could do with
 that except smooth out the fan start/stop, which really wasn't enough.
 You
 need the fan to run as set at the factory to control the temperature, so
 if
 the fan is too loud, look for replacement fans that are quieter.  I'm
 very
 puzzled as to why Apple chose to put noisy fans in the powerbooks.


 Dimitar Georgievski wrote:

 Hi,

  I just installed YDL on my Power G5 1.8 GHz and the fan is out of
 control. It produces so much noise that after couple of minutes I have
 to
 shut down the computer.

  Is there any fix for this issue? I noticed on older posts in the forums
 users have experienced similar issues in the past. From their replies it
 doesn't look like there is an official fix for this issue yet.

  Here is the info about my Mac

  $ cat /proc/cpuinfo
 processor : 0
 cpu : PPC970FX, altivec supported
 clock : 1800.00MHz
 revision : 3.0 (pvr 003c 0300)

  timebase : 
 platform : PowerMac
 model : PowerMac9,1
 machine : PowerMac9,1
 motherboard : PowerMac9,1 MacRISC4 Power Macintosh
 detected as : 337 (PowerMac G5)
 pmac flags : 
 L2 cache : 512K unified
 pmac-generation : NewWorld

  $ uname -a
 Linux myhost 2.6.29-3.ydl61.4 #1 SMP Mon Sep 7 14:50:27 PDT 2009 ppc64
 ppc64 ppc64 GNU/Linux

  thanks,

  Dimitar

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Re: [ydl-gen] Noisy fan on Power G5 and YDL 6.2

2012-11-13 Thread Robert T. Drury




I gained control of the fan but there was nothing really I could do
with that except smooth out the fan start/stop, which really wasn't
enough. You need the fan to run as set at the factory to control the
temperature, so if the fan is too loud, look for replacement fans that
are quieter. I'm very puzzled as to why Apple chose to put noisy fans
in the powerbooks.


Dimitar Georgievski wrote:
Hi,
  
  
  I just installed YDL on my Power G5 1.8 GHz and the fan is out
of control. It produces so much noise that after couple of minutes I
have to shut down the computer.
  
  
  Is there any fix for this issue? I noticed on older posts in the
forums users have experienced similar issues in the past. From their
replies it doesn't look like there is an official fix for this issue
yet.
  
  
  Here is the info about my Mac
  
  
  
  $ cat /proc/cpuinfo
  processor
  : 0
  cpu :
PPC970FX, altivec supported
  clock :
1800.00MHz
  revision :
3.0 (pvr 003c 0300)
  
  
  timebase :

  platform :
PowerMac
  model :
PowerMac9,1
  machine :
PowerMac9,1
  motherboard
  : PowerMac9,1 MacRISC4 Power Macintosh
  detected as
  : 337 (PowerMac G5)
  pmac flags
  : 
  L2 cache :
512K unified
  pmac-generation : NewWorld
  
  
  
  $ uname -a
  Linux myhost 2.6.29-3.ydl61.4 #1 SMP Mon Sep 7 14:50:27 PDT 2009
ppc64 ppc64 ppc64 GNU/Linux
  
  
  thanks,
  
  
  Dimitar
  

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Re: [ydl-gen] Noisy fan on Power G5 and YDL 6.2

2012-11-13 Thread Hal Martin
He mentioned that it's a Power G5 1.8GHz which would be a G5 desktop, not
a PowerBook.

I don't recall if fan speed control was ever fully functional on the G5
tower. IIRC only Apple portables had power management facilities in the
kernel.

-Hal
Am 13.11.2012 14:42 schrieb Robert T. Drury rtdr...@earthlink.net:

 **
 I gained control of the fan but there was nothing really I could do with
 that except smooth out the fan start/stop, which really wasn't enough.  You
 need the fan to run as set at the factory to control the temperature, so if
 the fan is too loud, look for replacement fans that are quieter.  I'm very
 puzzled as to why Apple chose to put noisy fans in the powerbooks.


 Dimitar Georgievski wrote:

 Hi,

  I just installed YDL on my Power G5 1.8 GHz and the fan is out of
 control. It produces so much noise that after couple of minutes I have to
 shut down the computer.

  Is there any fix for this issue? I noticed on older posts in the forums
 users have experienced similar issues in the past. From their replies it
 doesn't look like there is an official fix for this issue yet.

  Here is the info about my Mac

  $ cat /proc/cpuinfo
 processor : 0
 cpu : PPC970FX, altivec supported
 clock : 1800.00MHz
 revision : 3.0 (pvr 003c 0300)

  timebase : 
 platform : PowerMac
 model : PowerMac9,1
 machine : PowerMac9,1
 motherboard : PowerMac9,1 MacRISC4 Power Macintosh
 detected as : 337 (PowerMac G5)
 pmac flags : 
 L2 cache : 512K unified
 pmac-generation : NewWorld

  $ uname -a
 Linux myhost 2.6.29-3.ydl61.4 #1 SMP Mon Sep 7 14:50:27 PDT 2009 ppc64
 ppc64 ppc64 GNU/Linux

  thanks,

  Dimitar

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Re: [ydl-gen] Noisy fan on Power G5 and YDL 6.2

2012-11-13 Thread Chris Urban
What you're describing is the fan running at full speed - which you can
Replicate by booting the Mac into the command line and running fsck. 
There's likely a software patch that addresses this directly. 

Chris



On Nov 13, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Hal Martin hal.mar...@gmail.com wrote:

 He mentioned that it's a Power G5 1.8GHz which would be a G5 desktop, not a 
 PowerBook.
 
 I don't recall if fan speed control was ever fully functional on the G5 
 tower. IIRC only Apple portables had power management facilities in the 
 kernel.
 
 -Hal
 
 Am 13.11.2012 14:42 schrieb Robert T. Drury rtdr...@earthlink.net:
 I gained control of the fan but there was nothing really I could do with that 
 except smooth out the fan start/stop, which really wasn't enough.  You need 
 the fan to run as set at the factory to control the temperature, so if the 
 fan is too loud, look for replacement fans that are quieter.  I'm very 
 puzzled as to why Apple chose to put noisy fans in the powerbooks.
 
 
 Dimitar Georgievski wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I just installed YDL on my Power G5 1.8 GHz and the fan is out of control. 
 It produces so much noise that after couple of minutes I have to shut down 
 the computer.
 
 Is there any fix for this issue? I noticed on older posts in the forums 
 users have experienced similar issues in the past. From their replies it 
 doesn't look like there is an official fix for this issue yet.
 
 Here is the info about my Mac
 
 $ cat /proc/cpuinfo 
 processor
   : 0
 cpu : PPC970FX, altivec supported
 clock : 1800.00MHz
 revision : 3.0 (pvr 003c 0300)
 
 timebase : 
 platform : PowerMac
 model : PowerMac9,1
 machine : PowerMac9,1
 motherboard
   : PowerMac9,1 MacRISC4 Power Macintosh 
 detected as
   : 337 (PowerMac G5)
 pmac flags
   : 
 L2 cache : 512K unified
 pmac-generation : NewWorld
 
 $ uname -a
 Linux myhost 2.6.29-3.ydl61.4 #1 SMP Mon Sep 7 14:50:27 PDT 2009 ppc64 ppc64 
 ppc64 GNU/Linux
 
 thanks,
 
 Dimitar
 
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