Re: [ydl-gen] Boot error: USB hub
Bill Fink ha scritto: On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, Robert Spykerman wrote: 2010/1/22 angelo angelo_da...@alice.it: Hi Robert and thanks for your concern about my problem. The exact message is: error at ! /etc/X11/Xmodmap. Thanks in advance, Angelo Hmm.. Now the other thing that would be interesting is to know where this mesage is being issued from, ie which script. I am guessing that an X startup script issues this but I am not sure. To me, it sounds like xmodmap is trying to parse /etc/X11/Xmodmap and failing. From what you've described (no change in hardware, previously working USB peripherals etc), in the setting of an improper shutdown, there is one highly likely explanation I can think of - your Xmodmap file must have someway been corrupted. Now unfortunately I do not know enough about X to say this with any degree of certainty nor can I tell you how exactly to fix it. You may well want to take a look at the Xmodmap file, if it's corrupt, generate a new Xmodmap config file and see if that works. That will mean understanding the format of the Xmodmap config file and that will mean looking I guess, ie man xmodmap. Please note, I could be completely wrong, I am still struggling to figure out how a linux distro is put together. Someone more well versed in this might be able to hep You can check if the Xmodmap file is corrupted by the following procedure: 1. Find out what RPM /etc/X11/Xmodmap is a part of: gwiz% rpm -qf /etc/X11/Xmodmap xorg-x11-xinit-1.0.9-9.fc11.x86_64 2. Now check the integrity of the xorg-x11-xinit RPM: gwiz% rpm --verify xorg-x11-xinit gwiz% No output is a good sign. Check man rpm for an explanation of any detected issues. 3. If the xorg-x11-xinit RPM is corrupted, you can reinstall it as root using the command: yum reinstall xorg-x11-xinit Of course there could be other things also corrupted, or the file system itself could be corrupted, perhaps causing something else to erroneously reference the Xmodmap file, even if it isn't corrupted itself. Hence the importance of system backups. -Hope this helps -Bill ___ yellowdog-general mailing list - yellowdog-general@lists.fixstars.com Unsuscribe info: http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general HINT: to Google archives, try 'lt;keywords site:us.fixstars.com' Thank you very much, Bill. When I issue the gwiz% command, it says command not found. Thus, I don't know what to do. Also the yum reinstall does not exist. It lists all the possible parameters, but reinstall is not among them. What should I do ? Thanks in advance, Angelo. ___ yellowdog-general mailing list - yellowdog-general@lists.fixstars.com Unsuscribe info: http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general HINT: to Google archives, try 'lt;keywords site:us.fixstars.com'
Re: [ydl-gen] Boot error: USB hub
On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, Robert Spykerman wrote: 2010/1/22 angelo angelo_da...@alice.it: Hi Robert and thanks for your concern about my problem. The exact message is: error at ! /etc/X11/Xmodmap. Thanks in advance, Angelo Hmm.. Now the other thing that would be interesting is to know where this mesage is being issued from, ie which script. I am guessing that an X startup script issues this but I am not sure. To me, it sounds like xmodmap is trying to parse /etc/X11/Xmodmap and failing. From what you've described (no change in hardware, previously working USB peripherals etc), in the setting of an improper shutdown, there is one highly likely explanation I can think of - your Xmodmap file must have someway been corrupted. Now unfortunately I do not know enough about X to say this with any degree of certainty nor can I tell you how exactly to fix it. You may well want to take a look at the Xmodmap file, if it's corrupt, generate a new Xmodmap config file and see if that works. That will mean understanding the format of the Xmodmap config file and that will mean looking I guess, ie man xmodmap. Please note, I could be completely wrong, I am still struggling to figure out how a linux distro is put together. Someone more well versed in this might be able to hep You can check if the Xmodmap file is corrupted by the following procedure: 1. Find out what RPM /etc/X11/Xmodmap is a part of: gwiz% rpm -qf /etc/X11/Xmodmap xorg-x11-xinit-1.0.9-9.fc11.x86_64 2. Now check the integrity of the xorg-x11-xinit RPM: gwiz% rpm --verify xorg-x11-xinit gwiz% No output is a good sign. Check man rpm for an explanation of any detected issues. 3. If the xorg-x11-xinit RPM is corrupted, you can reinstall it as root using the command: yum reinstall xorg-x11-xinit Of course there could be other things also corrupted, or the file system itself could be corrupted, perhaps causing something else to erroneously reference the Xmodmap file, even if it isn't corrupted itself. Hence the importance of system backups. -Hope this helps -Bill ___ yellowdog-general mailing list - yellowdog-general@lists.fixstars.com Unsuscribe info: http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general HINT: to Google archives, try 'lt;keywords site:us.fixstars.com'
Re: [ydl-gen] Boot error: USB hub
Bill Fink ha scritto: On Fri, 22 Jan 2010, Robert Spykerman wrote: 2010/1/22 angelo angelo_da...@alice.it: Hi Robert and thanks for your concern about my problem. The exact message is: error at ! /etc/X11/Xmodmap. Thanks in advance, Angelo Hmm.. Now the other thing that would be interesting is to know where this mesage is being issued from, ie which script. I am guessing that an X startup script issues this but I am not sure. To me, it sounds like xmodmap is trying to parse /etc/X11/Xmodmap and failing. From what you've described (no change in hardware, previously working USB peripherals etc), in the setting of an improper shutdown, there is one highly likely explanation I can think of - your Xmodmap file must have someway been corrupted. Now unfortunately I do not know enough about X to say this with any degree of certainty nor can I tell you how exactly to fix it. You may well want to take a look at the Xmodmap file, if it's corrupt, generate a new Xmodmap config file and see if that works. That will mean understanding the format of the Xmodmap config file and that will mean looking I guess, ie man xmodmap. Please note, I could be completely wrong, I am still struggling to figure out how a linux distro is put together. Someone more well versed in this might be able to hep You can check if the Xmodmap file is corrupted by the following procedure: 1. Find out what RPM /etc/X11/Xmodmap is a part of: gwiz% rpm -qf /etc/X11/Xmodmap xorg-x11-xinit-1.0.9-9.fc11.x86_64 2. Now check the integrity of the xorg-x11-xinit RPM: gwiz% rpm --verify xorg-x11-xinit gwiz% No output is a good sign. Check man rpm for an explanation of any detected issues. 3. If the xorg-x11-xinit RPM is corrupted, you can reinstall it as root using the command: yum reinstall xorg-x11-xinit Of course there could be other things also corrupted, or the file system itself could be corrupted, perhaps causing something else to erroneously reference the Xmodmap file, even if it isn't corrupted itself. Hence the importance of system backups. -Hope this helps -Bill ___ yellowdog-general mailing list - yellowdog-general@lists.fixstars.com Unsuscribe info: http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general HINT: to Google archives, try 'lt;keywords site:us.fixstars.com' Thank you very much, Bill, for the precious info. I'll try the commands you wrote and I surely let you know the outcome. Thanks again, Angelo Da Re. ___ yellowdog-general mailing list - yellowdog-general@lists.fixstars.com Unsuscribe info: http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general HINT: to Google archives, try 'lt;keywords site:us.fixstars.com'
Re: [ydl-gen] Boot error: USB hub
Robert Spykerman ha scritto: On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 4:50 AM, angelo angelo_da...@alice.it wrote: Thank you very much Derick for your effort, but I used the same USB hub also previously, and udev didn't complain. Thus, it shouldn't be the reason why now it does. You haven't told me what this error message means. Thanks, what's the exact message? ( ie /var/log/dmesg - should be there I think... the X one I can't remember...) Also, are you very sure its udev that's causing the problem? The default YDL boots to X you see. It might be coming from one of the startup scripts I think. xmodmap (the executable) is part of X which sets your keyboard map etc... I noticed you typed Xmodmap - and you referred to /etc/X11 - you possibly may be referring to the default config file which I think X parses as it starts. In which case I have a hypothesis - the file might have been corrupted in that inadvertent system shutdown. Perhaps someone here with a lot more X knowledge can help. Maybe 'man xmodmap' - there might be more info there. This also begs another question: if one file is corrupt, what else could be? I would suggest making frequent backups of your linux install just in case something gets really messed up - I experiment a lot, you see, so I do ;) Angelo. Robert Spykerman Hi Robert and thanks for your concern about my problem. The exact message is: error at ! /etc/X11/Xmodmap. Thanks in advance, Angelo ___ yellowdog-general mailing list - yellowdog-general@lists.fixstars.com Unsuscribe info: http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general HINT: to Google archives, try 'lt;keywords site:us.fixstars.com'
Re: [ydl-gen] Boot error
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 08:44:09 +0100 angelo angelo_da...@alice.it wrote: Dear Derick, thank you very much for the quick reply. The fact is that I previously used the same USB keyboard and USB mouse and I hadn't any problem, it recognizes the keyboard saying the model and it uses a standard driver common for all mice. The problem arose only after the blackout. Another peculiarity is that I connect both keyboard and mouse to a USB hub in port 1, in order to have a USB port free for something else. Greetings, Angelo. ___ Not a problem, Angelo. By the way, you may consider that as you are connecting your keyboard and mouse through the usb hub, the problem udev is complaining about may be related to the hub you are using. I suggest this because you recent comment regarding your keyboard/mouse suggests that YDL running on the PS3 recognized them when they were directly connected to the PS3. Unfortunately, not all USB hubs are designed well. I have used USB hubs from Belkin, Targus or even Gigaware within YDL across the years. The core problem for you however is that udev is complaining about something it doesn't like. The simplest solution is to connect directly to the PS3 and avoid that particular USB hub entirely. If you find that udev has no complaints, then you solved the problem and discovered that the USB hub was what it was complaining about. After trying this, try also updating your installation by using yum: #yum update I hope that udev finds happiness. :-D In other words, that udev stops complaining and things get back to a state which is workable for you. All the best... = Refranes/Popular sayings: The Taino say:No hay mal que por bien no venga. There is no evil out of which good cannot blossom. signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ yellowdog-general mailing list - yellowdog-general@lists.fixstars.com Unsuscribe info: http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general HINT: to Google archives, try 'lt;keywords site:us.fixstars.com'
Re: [ydl-gen] Boot error: USB hub
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:50:23 +0100 angelo angelo_da...@alice.it wrote: Thank you very much Derick for your effort, but I used the same USB hub also previously, and udev didn't complain. Thus, it shouldn't be the reason why now it does. You haven't told me what this error message means. Thanks, Angelo. Hi Angelo: udev is complaining that something is wrong with the devices (keyboard/mice) it is designed to oversee. The links I shared with you earlier are guides which you can use which you can refer to so that you can modify udev to your environment so that udev will not report that error/complaint. As others wrote the guide for modifying udev, I thought their experiences would be useful to you. It is true that their experience is on other computers and even other Linux distributions -- even so, the step by step details which they provide should work within YDL and could be useful for you to follow or at least consider examining the udev user commands which udev is following while at the same time being informed regarding how to change/modify those settings to meet your needs (in consideration of the hardware you are actually using). Again if you have unplugged the keyboard/mouse directly into the USB port into the PS3 and then plugged them back in while observing how udev behaved as it boot into YDL. Then you again tried the same procedure, this time connecting your keyboard/mouse into the USB hub observing how udev behaved as it boot into YDL, and after all that you found that udev was still complaining or reporting the same error, then you need to consider using the links I sent earlier as a guide. The references should be clear enough for you to decipher which command or user settings which need to be changed. Unfortunately, doing such things is part of the normal reality of utilizing any Linux distribution. There is always one more thing which doesn't quite work as well as one would like. Good Luck... = Refranes/Popular sayings: The Taino say:No hay mal que por bien no venga. There is no evil out of which good cannot blossom. signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ yellowdog-general mailing list - yellowdog-general@lists.fixstars.com Unsuscribe info: http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general HINT: to Google archives, try 'lt;keywords site:us.fixstars.com'
Re: [ydl-gen] Boot error: USB hub
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 4:50 AM, angelo angelo_da...@alice.it wrote: Thank you very much Derick for your effort, but I used the same USB hub also previously, and udev didn't complain. Thus, it shouldn't be the reason why now it does. You haven't told me what this error message means. Thanks, what's the exact message? ( ie /var/log/dmesg - should be there I think... the X one I can't remember...) Also, are you very sure its udev that's causing the problem? The default YDL boots to X you see. It might be coming from one of the startup scripts I think. xmodmap (the executable) is part of X which sets your keyboard map etc... I noticed you typed Xmodmap - and you referred to /etc/X11 - you possibly may be referring to the default config file which I think X parses as it starts. In which case I have a hypothesis - the file might have been corrupted in that inadvertent system shutdown. Perhaps someone here with a lot more X knowledge can help. Maybe 'man xmodmap' - there might be more info there. This also begs another question: if one file is corrupt, what else could be? I would suggest making frequent backups of your linux install just in case something gets really messed up - I experiment a lot, you see, so I do ;) Angelo. Robert Spykerman -- chown -R us ./base ___ yellowdog-general mailing list - yellowdog-general@lists.fixstars.com Unsuscribe info: http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general HINT: to Google archives, try 'lt;keywords site:us.fixstars.com'
Re: [ydl-gen] Boot error
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 06:16:28 +0100 angelo angelo_da...@alice.it wrote: Hello everyone ! Some time ago, I had a blackout while YDL 6.2 was running. Since then, I get this message after starting udev: error at ! /etc/X11/Xmodmap. I'm running YDL on a PS3 40 GB, which I expanded to 250 GB, European version, with GameOS 3.10. After giving this error, everything works fine. Can anyone tell me what this message means and how to fix it ? Keep in mind that I'm a newcomer to Linux, so please explain straightforward. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Angelo. Buon Jorno, Angelo!! One very simple approach which could correct the complaint you are getting from udev, is to check if you are using a standard USB keyboard or mouse which YDL recognizes and/or is designed to work with. Let this be your first step. Read about this here: http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/hardware/sony.shtml Please note that within the PS3 section under 2, you will see: The Bluetooth keyboard and mouse may work under Linux, but will require additional configuration. We recommend a USB keyboard and mouse or USB to Bluetooth adapter (dongle). The reason the above is important is that the udev application was built into the Linux kernel (all versions from kernel 2.6 forward) to replace something called devfs, another kernel tool. The purpose of udev is to control peripheral devices - mostly keyboards and mice. Every Linux distribution -- Debian, Fedora, YDL and other distributions determine for themselves when they build their own standard kernel which applications such as udev, will be automatically used (turned on or off) by that distribution when they compile their kernel. You, as an individual, can download and build (compile) -- solid programming skills required -- your own kernel to use and decide for yourself whether udev is on or off according to your own needs. The entire process is not simple, unfortunately. In case the simple act of replacing your keyboard with a USB keyboard and USB based mouse is not possible what follows are links to instructions and references for you to use to correct the code or instructions udev utilizes and refers to. This is not simple but it is what is available that I could gather to address this particular problem. Here goes: http://webpages.charter.net/decibelshelp/LinuxHelp_UDEVPrimer.html#UDEV http://blog.interlinked.org/tutorials/linux.html When you are ready to create your own rules for udev to follow refer to this link (Note: Look for UDEV in the middle of the webpage): http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Acer_Travelmate_803LCi All the best... = Refranes/Popular sayings: The Taino say:No hay mal que por bien no venga. There is no evil out of which good cannot blossom. signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ yellowdog-general mailing list - yellowdog-general@lists.fixstars.com Unsuscribe info: http://lists.fixstars.com/mailman/listinfo/yellowdog-general HINT: to Google archives, try 'lt;keywords site:us.fixstars.com'
