Re: [yocto] Problem with Python when running oe-init-build-env

[Zoran Stojsavljevic]

Hello Ross,

Seems that you are correct. I have checked on my host Fedora 27:

[vuser@localhost bin]$ pwd
/usr/bin
[vuser@localhost bin]$ uname -r
4.16.5-200.fc27.x86_64
[vuser@localhost bin]$ ls -al pyth*
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 7 Mar 14 14:36 python -> python2
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 9 Mar 14 14:36 python2 -> python2.7
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root  7128 Mar 14 14:37 python2.7
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 9 Apr  4 17:03 python3 -> python3.6
-rwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 11240 Apr  4 17:03 python3.6
-rwxr-xr-x. 2 root root 11240 Apr  4 17:03 python3.6m
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root   388 Jul 28  2017 python3-chardetect
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root   387 Nov 16 18:05 python3-coverage
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root   396 Jul 28  2017 python3-mako-render
-rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root   392 Jul 28  2017 python3-pyinotify
[vuser@localhost bin]$

I also have checked on my Debian 9.4.0 VM:

user@unassigned-hostname:/usr/bin$ pwd
/usr/bin
user@unassigned-hostname:/usr/bin$ uname -r
4.9.0-6-amd64
user@unassigned-hostname:/usr/bin$ ls -al pyth*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 May  3 11:03 python -> python2.7
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 May  3 11:03 python2 -> python2.7
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3779512 Nov 24 12:33 python2.7
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   9 May  3 11:03 python3 -> python3.5
-rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4747120 Jan 19  2017 python3.5
-rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4747120 Jan 19  2017 python3.5m
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 May  3 11:03 python3m -> python3.5m
user@unassigned-hostname:/usr/bin$

Zoran
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On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 6:00 PM, Burton, Ross <ross.bur...@intel.com> wrote:

> I suggest you have a look through the feed that you link to and see if it
> provides a package which has /usr/bin/python3 in, and if it doesn't then
> just make a python3 -> python3.6 symlink (which is all you need).
>
> Ross
>
> On 2 May 2018 at 20:28, Raymond Yeung <rksye...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Zoran.
>>
>>
>> My Linux build machine uses Centos 7.  I thought I'd done the
>> installation to Python 3.6.5.  If this is not Python3 > 3.4.0, then I'm
>> confused.  The link I follow for installation is here:
>> https://janikarhunen.fi/how-to-install-python-3-6-1-on-centos-7.html
>>
>> > python3.6 -V
>>
>> Python 3.6.5
>>
>> >python -V
>>
>> Python 2.7.5
>>
>>
>> Anyway, I realize what went wrong.  I'd Krogoth (a 2016 Poky) running
>> before.  Now as I'm migrating to Rocko (a 2017 Poky), I try to solve a
>> Python versioning issue by installing Python only (as above).  However,
>> there may be other packages I need to update.  After getting latest
>> Reference Manual, download and install latest environment, I no longer have
>> python3 issue.  However, the Python version of why Python3.6 won't satisfy
>> Python > 3.4.0 still puzzles me (though no longer blocking me).
>>
>>
>> Raymond
>>
>>
>> ------
>> *From:* Zoran Stojsavljevic <zoran.stojsavlje...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 1, 2018 11:19 PM
>> *To:* Raymond Yeung
>> *Cc:* yocto@yoctoproject.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [yocto] Problem with Python when running oe-init-build-env
>>
>> Hello Raymond,
>>
>> The problem is that you (talking about your host distro):
>> [1] Do NOT have python3 package installed;
>> [2] Do have python3 package < 3.4.0 version, so you need to upgrade!
>>
>> So, I have no idea which host distro you are using, but:
>> [1] If Debian/Ubuntu, then: apt-get install python3
>>  If Fedora, then dnf install python3
>> [2] If Debian/Ubuntu, then: apt-get update python3
>>  If Fedora, then dnf update python3
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Zoran
>> ___
>>
>> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 10:43 PM, Raymond Yeung <rksye...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I'd just git cloned Rocko and meta-ti.  When I try to source
>> > oe-init-build-env, I got errors:
>> >
>> >
>> > -bash: python3: command not found
>> >
>> > BitBake requires Python 3.4.0 or later as 'python3'.  "python -V" gives
>> > "Python 2.7.9".  "python3" is not in $PATH.  I'd followed some detailed
>> > online description to install Python 3.6 on CentOS 7.  However, after
>> > installation, it looks like I need to invoke it with python3.6.
>> >
>> >
>> > How does this work now?  I suppose the oe-init-build-env script
>> uses/expects
>> > python3, not python3.6.
>> >
>> >
>> > Any insight?
>> >
>> >
>> > Raymond
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > _

Re: [yocto] Problem with Python when running oe-init-build-env

[Burton, Ross]

I suggest you have a look through the feed that you link to and see if it
provides a package which has /usr/bin/python3 in, and if it doesn't then
just make a python3 -> python3.6 symlink (which is all you need).

Ross

On 2 May 2018 at 20:28, Raymond Yeung <rksye...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Zoran.
>
>
> My Linux build machine uses Centos 7.  I thought I'd done the installation
> to Python 3.6.5.  If this is not Python3 > 3.4.0, then I'm confused.  The
> link I follow for installation is here:  https://janikarhunen.fi/how-
> to-install-python-3-6-1-on-centos-7.html
>
> > python3.6 -V
>
> Python 3.6.5
>
> >python -V
>
> Python 2.7.5
>
>
> Anyway, I realize what went wrong.  I'd Krogoth (a 2016 Poky) running
> before.  Now as I'm migrating to Rocko (a 2017 Poky), I try to solve a
> Python versioning issue by installing Python only (as above).  However,
> there may be other packages I need to update.  After getting latest
> Reference Manual, download and install latest environment, I no longer have
> python3 issue.  However, the Python version of why Python3.6 won't satisfy
> Python > 3.4.0 still puzzles me (though no longer blocking me).
>
>
> Raymond
>
>
> --
> *From:* Zoran Stojsavljevic <zoran.stojsavlje...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 1, 2018 11:19 PM
> *To:* Raymond Yeung
> *Cc:* yocto@yoctoproject.org
> *Subject:* Re: [yocto] Problem with Python when running oe-init-build-env
>
> Hello Raymond,
>
> The problem is that you (talking about your host distro):
> [1] Do NOT have python3 package installed;
> [2] Do have python3 package < 3.4.0 version, so you need to upgrade!
>
> So, I have no idea which host distro you are using, but:
> [1] If Debian/Ubuntu, then: apt-get install python3
>  If Fedora, then dnf install python3
> [2] If Debian/Ubuntu, then: apt-get update python3
>  If Fedora, then dnf update python3
>
> Hope this helps,
> Zoran
> ___
>
> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 10:43 PM, Raymond Yeung <rksye...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I'd just git cloned Rocko and meta-ti.  When I try to source
> > oe-init-build-env, I got errors:
> >
> >
> > -bash: python3: command not found
> >
> > BitBake requires Python 3.4.0 or later as 'python3'.  "python -V" gives
> > "Python 2.7.9".  "python3" is not in $PATH.  I'd followed some detailed
> > online description to install Python 3.6 on CentOS 7.  However, after
> > installation, it looks like I need to invoke it with python3.6.
> >
> >
> > How does this work now?  I suppose the oe-init-build-env script
> uses/expects
> > python3, not python3.6.
> >
> >
> > Any insight?
> >
> >
> > Raymond
> >
> >
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Re: [yocto] Problem with Python when running oe-init-build-env

[Raymond Yeung]

Thanks Zoran.


My Linux build machine uses Centos 7.  I thought I'd done the installation to 
Python 3.6.5.  If this is not Python3 > 3.4.0, then I'm confused.  The link I 
follow for installation is here:  
https://janikarhunen.fi/how-to-install-python-3-6-1-on-centos-7.html


> python3.6 -V

Python 3.6.5

>python -V

Python 2.7.5


Anyway, I realize what went wrong.  I'd Krogoth (a 2016 Poky) running before.  
Now as I'm migrating to Rocko (a 2017 Poky), I try to solve a Python versioning 
issue by installing Python only (as above).  However, there may be other 
packages I need to update.  After getting latest Reference Manual, download and 
install latest environment, I no longer have python3 issue.  However, the 
Python version of why Python3.6 won't satisfy Python > 3.4.0 still puzzles me 
(though no longer blocking me).


Raymond



From: Zoran Stojsavljevic <zoran.stojsavlje...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 11:19 PM
To: Raymond Yeung
Cc: yocto@yoctoproject.org
Subject: Re: [yocto] Problem with Python when running oe-init-build-env

Hello Raymond,

The problem is that you (talking about your host distro):
[1] Do NOT have python3 package installed;
[2] Do have python3 package < 3.4.0 version, so you need to upgrade!

So, I have no idea which host distro you are using, but:
[1] If Debian/Ubuntu, then: apt-get install python3
 If Fedora, then dnf install python3
[2] If Debian/Ubuntu, then: apt-get update python3
 If Fedora, then dnf update python3

Hope this helps,
Zoran
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On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 10:43 PM, Raymond Yeung <rksye...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I'd just git cloned Rocko and meta-ti.  When I try to source
> oe-init-build-env, I got errors:
>
>
> -bash: python3: command not found
>
> BitBake requires Python 3.4.0 or later as 'python3'.  "python -V" gives
> "Python 2.7.9".  "python3" is not in $PATH.  I'd followed some detailed
> online description to install Python 3.6 on CentOS 7.  However, after
> installation, it looks like I need to invoke it with python3.6.
>
>
> How does this work now?  I suppose the oe-init-build-env script uses/expects
> python3, not python3.6.
>
>
> Any insight?
>
>
> Raymond
>
>
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Re: [yocto] Problem with Python when running oe-init-build-env

[Burton, Ross]

On 1 May 2018 at 21:43, Raymond Yeung  wrote:

> I'd just git cloned Rocko and meta-ti.  When I try to source
> oe-init-build-env, I got errors:
>
>
> -bash: python3: command not found
>
> BitBake requires Python 3.4.0 or later as 'python3'.  "python -V" gives
> "Python 2.7.9".  "python3" is not in $PATH.  I'd followed some detailed
> online description to install Python 3.6 on CentOS 7.  However, after
> installation, it looks like I need to invoke it with python3.6.
>
>
> How does this work now?  I suppose the oe-init-build-env script
> uses/expects python3, not python3.6.
>

The python3 installation should have created a python3 symlink to
python3.6.  If this didn't happen, create it yourself.

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Re: [yocto] Problem with Python when running oe-init-build-env

[Paul Barker]

On Wed, 2 May 2018, at 21:17, Zoran Stojsavljevic wrote:
> Hello Raymond,
> 
> YOCTO is, per say, moving target. If you have YOCTO Krogoth, you should
> have somehow frozen host Centos 7 release around this time. As you now
> moving to Rocko, you need to fast-forward the whole host Centos 7 (in other
> words to upgrade Centos 7) to this state (maybe to latest, it'll still
> work, I guess).

Sorry, I'd say this is wrong. Centos is a pretty stable base and I wouldn't 
expect backwards incompatible changes to be made within a stable release 
series. So if a Yocto release worked on a given Centos version (say Centos 7) 
at the time of release, it should still work now.

Advising people to "freeze" their host system and stop taking security/bugfix 
updates pushed by their distro is a bad idea.

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Re: [yocto] Problem with Python when running oe-init-build-env

[Zoran Stojsavljevic]

Hello Raymond,

YOCTO is, per say, moving target. If you have YOCTO Krogoth, you should
have somehow frozen host Centos 7 release around this time. As you now
moving to Rocko, you need to fast-forward the whole host Centos 7 (in other
words to upgrade Centos 7) to this state (maybe to latest, it'll still
work, I guess).

Not familiar with Centos distro, really... :-(

This is a good point to mention that you, Raymond, or anybody else, need to
give to YOCTO mailing list more info about what is going on with your
setup, since we are here guessing, in The Dark. You gave one parameter
less, then it is as solving two equations with three unknown variables (so
it is pure [un]educated guess out of Blue).

All Good, after all, you solved your problem! :-)

Zoran
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On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:28 PM, Raymond Yeung <rksye...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Zoran.
>
>
> My Linux build machine uses Centos 7.  I thought I'd done the installation
> to Python 3.6.5.  If this is not Python3 > 3.4.0, then I'm confused.  The
> link I follow for installation is here:  https://janikarhunen.fi/how-
> to-install-python-3-6-1-on-centos-7.html
>
> > python3.6 -V
>
> Python 3.6.5
>
> >python -V
>
> Python 2.7.5
>
>
> Anyway, I realize what went wrong.  I'd Krogoth (a 2016 Poky) running
> before.  Now as I'm migrating to Rocko (a 2017 Poky), I try to solve a
> Python versioning issue by installing Python only (as above).  However,
> there may be other packages I need to update.  After getting latest
> Reference Manual, download and install latest environment, I no longer have
> python3 issue.  However, the Python version of why Python3.6 won't satisfy
> Python > 3.4.0 still puzzles me (though no longer blocking me).
>
>
> Raymond
>
>
> --
> *From:* Zoran Stojsavljevic <zoran.stojsavlje...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 1, 2018 11:19 PM
> *To:* Raymond Yeung
> *Cc:* yocto@yoctoproject.org
> *Subject:* Re: [yocto] Problem with Python when running oe-init-build-env
>
> Hello Raymond,
>
> The problem is that you (talking about your host distro):
> [1] Do NOT have python3 package installed;
> [2] Do have python3 package < 3.4.0 version, so you need to upgrade!
>
> So, I have no idea which host distro you are using, but:
> [1] If Debian/Ubuntu, then: apt-get install python3
>  If Fedora, then dnf install python3
> [2] If Debian/Ubuntu, then: apt-get update python3
>  If Fedora, then dnf update python3
>
> Hope this helps,
> Zoran
> ___
>
> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 10:43 PM, Raymond Yeung <rksye...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I'd just git cloned Rocko and meta-ti.  When I try to source
> > oe-init-build-env, I got errors:
> >
> >
> > -bash: python3: command not found
> >
> > BitBake requires Python 3.4.0 or later as 'python3'.  "python -V" gives
> > "Python 2.7.9".  "python3" is not in $PATH.  I'd followed some detailed
> > online description to install Python 3.6 on CentOS 7.  However, after
> > installation, it looks like I need to invoke it with python3.6.
> >
> >
> > How does this work now?  I suppose the oe-init-build-env script
> uses/expects
> > python3, not python3.6.
> >
> >
> > Any insight?
> >
> >
> > Raymond
> >
> >
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Re: [yocto] Problem with Python when running oe-init-build-env

[Zoran Stojsavljevic]

Hello Raymond,

The problem is that you (talking about your host distro):
[1] Do NOT have python3 package installed;
[2] Do have python3 package < 3.4.0 version, so you need to upgrade!

So, I have no idea which host distro you are using, but:
[1] If Debian/Ubuntu, then: apt-get install python3
 If Fedora, then dnf install python3
[2] If Debian/Ubuntu, then: apt-get update python3
 If Fedora, then dnf update python3

Hope this helps,
Zoran
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On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 10:43 PM, Raymond Yeung  wrote:
> I'd just git cloned Rocko and meta-ti.  When I try to source
> oe-init-build-env, I got errors:
>
>
> -bash: python3: command not found
>
> BitBake requires Python 3.4.0 or later as 'python3'.  "python -V" gives
> "Python 2.7.9".  "python3" is not in $PATH.  I'd followed some detailed
> online description to install Python 3.6 on CentOS 7.  However, after
> installation, it looks like I need to invoke it with python3.6.
>
>
> How does this work now?  I suppose the oe-init-build-env script uses/expects
> python3, not python3.6.
>
>
> Any insight?
>
>
> Raymond
>
>
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