Re: cross-linking yojimbo items to objects in other apps

[Jeff Berg]

On Nov 26, 2007, at 5:47 PM, David Duff wrote:


any thoughts or suggestions on tools or techniques?


With all due respect to Yojimbo--software that I live and die by--you  
might be better served by FileMaker's Bento (currently available as  
free beta test). Out of the box Bento incorporates Address Book and  
iCal data, ships with a number of templates that may suit (or be  
readily adapted to) your purpose, and uses the same SQLite "backbone"  
as Yojimbo.


Bento feels more structured to me--and I've yet to see how I would use  
it. But it may be the better tool for your purposes.


Best of luck!

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cross-linking yojimbo items to objects in other apps

[David Duff]

ideally, i'd like to be able to link from other objects in my toolset  
(omnifocus tasks, ical events, email messages, misc finder documents,  
address book contacts, etc.) bidirectionally to yojimbo, such that i  
could be looking at an item (like a yojimbo note) and could jump to  
for example a contact or vice versa.


one step toward this ideal is hinted at by the presence of the "copy  
item link" feature in the edit menu of yojimbo.


a current problem that i am trying to solve is to find some way of  
keeping track of a large body of "contract-centric" information -  
that is, lots of contacts, and for each contact, a set of semi- 
structured (date, text) notes which are linked to contacts which  
might comprise a history of interactions with an individual.   it  
would be nice if i could use yojimbo as the notes component in a  
suite of apps that i use to attack this problem.


using address book.app is a semi-requirement, since for various  
subsets of these contacts, i need to send email, create groups,  
communicate via IM, print envelopes, ...i also would like to keep  
the list of contacts sync'd with my pda.thus, using the central  
mac os store for contacts seems to make sense.


i believe that this cross-linkage should be possible because i have  
seen versions of it done in other applications.  for example,  
mailtags succeeds in cross-linking between email messages and ical  
events/tasks.   i'd like for yojimbo to be able to do something  
similar.   i'm not sure whether the linked objects should  
conceptually be considered part of the meta-data of the yojimbo item,  
i.e., along with dates, tags, comments, label, or part of the content  
of the yojimbo item, i.e. like a hyperlink or an image or other  
object that is embedded in the body.   perhaps the links should  
simply be hyperlinks and nothing more - including "special"  
hyperlinks akin to "x-yojimbo-item://32340234".   the links could be  
created at object creation time (i.e. by a script such as "create a  
new yojimbo note linked to this contact"), via drag/drop type  
operations, or perhaps via a contact selector mechanism to be added  
to yojimbo (analagous to the "address panel" function in mail.app.


what doesn't seem to work as it should:

i should be able to copy a link from yojimbo and paste it into one of  
my contact's "URL" fields, then i could navigate from the contact to  
a yojimbo item containing a note or multiple notes about a contact.   
when i try to open a yojimbo link in address book, it doesn't work.   
address book seems to mis-interpret the text i use for the link and  
it thinks it needs to prepend "http://"; to the front of it.this  
issue seems to have been discussed on the yojimbo-talk list  
previously, but afaik the discussion did not lead to a solution to  
the problem.


what's missing:

ability for yojimbo to link to other objects such as contacts.   the  
same would apply for linking to email messages, ical events, files in  
the filesystem, etc.


example: drag an address book contact into a yojimbo note and some  
kind of link (?) gets added to the note that you can click on to  
navigate back to the original item.


any thoughts or suggestions on tools or techniques?   any chance  
yojimbo would grow to support this task at some point or would this  
be considered completely out of scope?


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Re: Yojimbo and Spaces

[Jan Erik Moström]

J. Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 07-11-26 16.35


This should work already. The drop dock is visible everywhere.


Not on my machines (2) when using Spaces. It only shows in Space 1
though I can view Yojimbo notes in any space.


OK, sorry. I now understand why it works on my machine. Forget 
my answer.


jem
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Re: Yojimbo and Spaces

[J. Stewart]

On 11/26/07 at 4:27 PM, Jan Erik Moström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
spake thusly:



the Drop Dock in my main space?


This should work already. The drop dock is visible everywhere.


Not on my machines (2) when using Spaces. It only shows in Space 
1 though I can view Yojimbo notes in any space.


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Re: Yojimbo and Spaces

[Jan Erik Moström]

Ton Ensing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 07-11-26 15.41


the Drop Dock in my main space?


This should work already. The drop dock is visible everywhere.

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Yojimbo and Spaces

[Ton Ensing]

Speaking of Spaces: can Yojimbo be made 'Spaces' aware? So I can have  
the full Yojimbo window in a separate space and the Drop Dock in my  
main space? Or should I head over to the Bare Bones New Feature dep?


--Ton

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Re: F8 Hot Key with Leopard on a Macbook

[Steve Kalkwarf]

I have a new Macbook with Leopard.  When I press the F8 key, I 
don't get the Quick Input Panel drop down the way I do on my 
Tiger iMac.  I've gone into preferences and enabled the F8 key 
as the QIP hot key.  By default the F8 key is used to initiate 
the Spaces features in Leopard.  I've gone into  System 
Preferences  and switched off the Spaces F8 shortcut.  Still I 
get no Quick Input Panel with the F8 key.  Anyone got a clue?


Did you check hold the Alt key, or toggle the "Use the F1-F12 
keys to control software features" setting in the Keyboard preferences?





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Re: SyncTogether? or other LAN sync apps (other than .Mac)

[Jan Pieter Kunst]

2007/11/26, TjL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I'm looking at SyncTogether for LAN syncing of Yojimbo and wonder if
> others have used it with 10.5.1 and if so, how well it works.
>
> I've seen some older messages with problems but there have been a lot
> of changes to SyncServices lately so I'm wondering if things have
> gotten better.
>
>
> Are there other options other than SyncTogether which don't use
> Internet syncing?

SyncTogether is officially not compatible with Leopard (see
http://www.markspace.com/leopard.html) and as far as I can tell, its
future seems uncertain. I haven't tried to use it myself under
Leopard.

I don't know of any other options (besides .Mac) for syncing, and I
hope that SyncTogether will be updated for Leopard. I'm not counting
on it though.

JP

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SyncTogether? or other LAN sync apps (other than .Mac)

[TjL]

I'm looking at SyncTogether for LAN syncing of Yojimbo and wonder if
others have used it with 10.5.1 and if so, how well it works.

I've seen some older messages with problems but there have been a lot
of changes to SyncServices lately so I'm wondering if things have
gotten better.


Are there other options other than SyncTogether which don't use
Internet syncing?

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F8 Hot Key with Leopard on a Macbook

[Bullitt Guerrilla]

 I have a new Macbook with Leopard.  When I press the F8 key, I don't  
get the Quick Input Panel drop down the way I do on my Tiger iMac.   
I've gone into preferences and enabled the F8 key as the QIP hot key.   
By default the F8 key is used to initiate the Spaces features in  
Leopard.  I've gone into  System Preferences  and switched off the  
Spaces F8 shortcut.  Still I get no Quick Input Panel with the F8  
key.  Anyone got a clue?


  Thanks, Jerry

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