Re: Alternatives for massive PDF collection

[Brian York]

On 4/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H Bartel) wrote:


On 11.04.2007 17:17 Uhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


To be honest, I'm not sure what the fuss over PDFs is all about. My
Yojimbo library contains over 2000 PDFs, with sizes ranging from a
few K to 25+ MB, and I don't have any problems. My whole Yojimbo
library is 9063 items and right at 4 GB in size.


I'm not coming close to this database size, but I don't have any
problems with pdf files either. Counting 727 lucky pdf files at the
moment with sizes of up to ~30MB, making up a db size of roughly
400MB. Since I do remember the following message from not too long
ago, I don't know why things should have changed by now?


I'm not sure either. Ever since I bought Yojimbo (which was 
probably about a month or so after it was released, and about a 
week after downloading the demo), I've been using it to keep 
track of papers. As an astronomer, every morning I check out all 
the new papers that have been published that day, and I download 
any that are related to my field (or that just look 
interesting), and print them into Yojimbo. I do the same 
whenever I look up a paper online for reference (or whatever). I 
currently have 331 papers in Yojimbo, ranging from 4-page papers 
generated from LaTeX to 75-page papers scanned from the print 
journals as high-quality image PDFs. About half of them are 
currently tagged, and I'm steadily going through the backlog of 
untagged papers.


I do notice delays (of the spinning beachball variety) whenever 
I do a *content* (as opposed to tag or comments) search on my 
entire set of papers. This is probably because there's a *lot* 
of words in that many PDF files. I've found that things work 
best for me if I keep paper subjects (and/or keywords) as tags, 
and a list of authors in the comments section (turning a list of 
50+ authors into tags was just taking way too long, and 
generating too many tags). It *would* be nice to be able to 
produce custom searches (e.g. search "tags and comments") for 
when I know who the author is and what the subject is, but both 
subjects are very common. And nested folders might be nice. 
Still, Yojimbo does what I want it to, and it means I don't have 
to spend time trying to organize my collection of papers, and 
that's worth quite a bit.


-Brian
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Re: Alternatives for massive PDF collection

[H Bartel]

On 11.04.2007 17:17 Uhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I just started using Yojimbo and organizing my PDFs is just one of
the main reasons I bought the programm. Reading about the need to
switch to another application for massive PDF collections, does not
please me.

My question is, what sizes are we talking about, that you consider a
pdf collection as "massive" ???

My databse is just 55 MBs.


To be honest, I'm not sure what the fuss over PDFs is all about. My
Yojimbo library contains over 2000 PDFs, with sizes ranging from a few
K to 25+ MB, and I don't have any problems. My whole Yojimbo library
is 9063 items and right at 4 GB in size.


I'm not coming close to this database size, but I don't have any 
problems with pdf files either. Counting 727 lucky pdf files at 
the moment with sizes of up to ~30MB, making up a db size of 
roughly 400MB.
Since I do remember the following message from not too long ago, 
I don't know why things should have changed by now?


Given that my Yojimbo database is 8942 items and 3.1 GB, I 
sometimes suspect that I might be asking Yojimbo to do more 
heavy lifting than is necessary. :) My approach has pretty 
much been "if it can go in Yojimbo, it goes in Yojimbo."


That's how it was designed, and that's how I use it.


You can find the whole thread at 
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Regards,
Holger


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Re: Alternatives for massive PDF collection

[Bruce Garlock]

On Apr 11, 2007, at 5:17 PM, Kenneth Kirksey wrote:



To be honest, I'm not sure what the fuss over PDFs is all about. My  
Yojimbo library contains over 2000 PDFs, with sizes ranging from a  
few K to 25+ MB, and I don't have any problems. My whole Yojimbo  
library is 9063 items and right at 4 GB in size.



For me, it is syncing.  If I could turn off syncing, and put all my  
PDF's in one category, but have the other categories sync, I would be  
all set.  How fast is your searching with that size?  My sqlite size  
is 400MB, and searching takes a bit the first time.  It also seems to  
load a lot into memory.


Best Regards,

Bruce

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Re: Alternatives for massive PDF collection

[Bruce Garlock]

On Apr 11, 2007, at 5:11 PM, Martin Wagner wrote:



I just started using Yojimbo and organizing my PDFs is just one of  
the main reasons I bought the programm. Reading about the need to  
switch to another application for massive PDF collections, does not  
please me.


My question is, what sizes are we talking about, that you consider  
a pdf collection as "massive" ???


My databse is just 55 MBs.


My PDF collection is a couple of Gigs.  Yojimbo will handle 55 MB's  
just fine.  I have syncing turned on, so it was more of an issue with  
Apple's .Mac syncing, than Yojimbo.   If I could even have a  
collection that I could say not to sync, and if the searching issues  
with large db's is fixed, then all would be fine for me, and no need  
to use two programs.


Also, the db that Yojimbo uses is built into OS X; sqlite.  I wonder  
how MySQL would compare to the speed of sqlite.


Good luck!

Best Regards,

Bruce

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Re: Alternatives for massive PDF collection

[Kenneth Kirksey]

On Apr 11, 2007, at 5:11 PM, Martin Wagner wrote:

I just started using Yojimbo and organizing my PDFs is just one of  
the main reasons I bought the programm. Reading about the need to  
switch to another application for massive PDF collections, does not  
please me.


My question is, what sizes are we talking about, that you consider  
a pdf collection as "massive" ???


My databse is just 55 MBs.


To be honest, I'm not sure what the fuss over PDFs is all about. My  
Yojimbo library contains over 2000 PDFs, with sizes ranging from a  
few K to 25+ MB, and I don't have any problems. My whole Yojimbo  
library is 9063 items and right at 4 GB in size.




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Re: Alternatives for massive PDF collection

[Martin Wagner]

I just started using Yojimbo and organizing my PDFs is just one of  
the main reasons I bought the programm. Reading about the need to  
switch to another application for massive PDF collections, does not  
please me.


My question is, what sizes are we talking about, that you consider a  
pdf collection as "massive" ???


My databse is just 55 MBs.



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Re: Alternatives for massive PDF collection

[Rob Russell]

on 10/4/07 Bruce Garlock <(unknown sender)> wrote:

As most of the list users are aware, using Yojimbo for very 
large PDF files, and numerous PDF files is just not the right 
tool.  I am looking into an app that will help me organize all 
my PDF's, which are mostly manuals for lots of different things.


I'm using EagleFiler  for this, 
but your requirements are an order of magnitude greater than 
mine, so I can't comment on performance.


It's a great companion app with Yojimbo.

Rob

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Re: Alternatives for massive PDF collection

[Niels Kobschätzki]

On Apr 11, 2007, at 10:38 AM, J. Stewart wrote:

On 4/10/07 at 9:26 PM, Bruce Garlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake  
thusly:


I just need the tagging features, and some kind of searching  
features, so I can quickly find the correct document.



Check out TagBot . Looks like it's  
exactly what you need.


I prefer quicksilver with the tagging-plug-in over tagbot

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Re: Alternatives for massive PDF collection

[J. Stewart]

On 4/10/07 at 9:26 PM, Bruce Garlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thusly:

I just need the tagging features, and some kind of searching 
features, so I can quickly find the correct document.



Check out TagBot . Looks like 
it's exactly what you need.



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Re: Alternatives for massive PDF collection

[Bob Koss]

Another vote for Yep. I use it for PDF's and I use Yojimbo for all  
the misc. tidbits of information I want to save.



On Apr 10, 2007, at 10:09 PM, Bruce Garlock wrote:


On Apr 10, 2007, at 10:05 PM, Steffen Rohe wrote:


Hi,

an application you could read much the last time is yep (http:// 
www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/22022/yep).

Perhaps it will fit your needs.


Funny, I just started testing Yep out, and it looks like exactly  
like what I need.  Thank you so much.


Best Regards,






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Re: Alternatives for massive PDF collection

[Roger Blunden]

Another alternative is DevonThink
(http://www.devon-technologies.com/products/devonthink/index.html)
It will let you index pdf files without copying them into the
database. It also has sophisticated search facilties

On 11/04/07, Steffen Rohe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

an application you could read much the last time is yep (http://
www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/22022/yep).
Perhaps it will fit your needs.


best regards


Steffen

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Re: Alternatives for massive PDF collection

[Bruce Garlock]

On Apr 10, 2007, at 10:05 PM, Steffen Rohe wrote:


Hi,

an application you could read much the last time is yep (http:// 
www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/22022/yep).

Perhaps it will fit your needs.


Funny, I just started testing Yep out, and it looks like exactly like  
what I need.  Thank you so much.


Best Regards,

Bruce

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Re: Alternatives for massive PDF collection

[Steffen Rohe]

Hi,

an application you could read much the last time is yep (http:// 
www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/22022/yep).

Perhaps it will fit your needs.


best regards


Steffen

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