date:20060428

[Zappa-List] Re: VO Joe's Garage the Rock Opera?

2006-04-28 Thread Conehead

--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Guy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Package on the way to Joe.DP in NJ today.
> 
> 

That's almost three months ago, since Feb.09.
Any chance to bring this vine back on the move ?? 
What happened to Jim's copy ? 

Guy-US << Joe.DP-US < --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Guy"  wrote:
> >
> > Got this in the mail today. Thank you Jim L.
> > Will copy and send off in a day or two.
> > Joe.DP, please get your mailing address to me.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Guy"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Jim. My 17 year old son is looking forward to this one 
> too.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Jim L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Guy - US << Joe.DP-US < > from 
> > > Kansas
> > > > <<
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > This one went out yesterday. Be watching for it Guy and please 
> > tell 
> > > us what
> > > > you think of the show.
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Jim L
> > > > 
> > > >   _  
> > > > 
> > > > From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa-
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > > Behalf Of John Gobetz
> > > > Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 9:54 PM
> > > > To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO Joe's Garage the Rock Opera?
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > yes please!!!---thank you---  Jim L US << Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] << 
> > > Joe.DP-US
> > > > < > > > 
> > > > - Original Message - 
> > > > 
> > > > From: Richard   
> > > > 
> > > > To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > 
> > > > Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 5:42 PM
> > > > 
> > > > Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO Joe's Garage the Rock Opera?
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Jim L US << Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] << Joe.DP-US < Richard 
> > > Moore
> > > > UK << 
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Yes Please...Thanks!
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > - Original Message - 
> > > > 
> > > > From: Conehead   
> > > > 
> > > > To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > 
> > > > Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 10:25 PM
> > > > 
> > > > Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO Joe's Garage the Rock Opera?
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Jim L US << Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] << Joe.DP-US < > > > 
> > > > Me too, please. Thanks.
> > > > 
> > > > Conehead-BE
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Della Posta" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim L US << Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] << Joe.DP-US <<
> > > > > 
> > > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > If this is going to be available I want a chance to watch it 
> > also.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks for sharing
> > > > > 
> > > > > Joe.DP
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >   - Original Message - 
> > > > >   From: Jim L 
> > > > >   To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > >   Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 10:46 PM
> > > > >   Subject: RE: [Zappa-List] Re: VO Joe's Garage the Rock 
> Opera?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >   I finally got a chance to watch this. Now I work at a 
> > > university 
> > > > and have spent a good deal of time around the theatre 
> department. 
> > > > While I can imagine the students giving this one all they had, 
> I 
> > > can't 
> > > > imagine the Dean or administration letting them do it.  I can 
> > only 
> > > > commend the University of Michigan and any involved in this 
> > project 
> > > > back in 1999. What we have here is a decent band and a bunch 
> of 
> > > young 
> > > > people that really did justice to Joe's story and our favorite 
> > > > composer. (imho) I'm not usually much for choreographed shows 
> but 
> > > this 
> > > > is an exception. They didn't clean it up any that I noticed 
> > ether. 
> > > Ike 
> > > > helps out on Lucile and maybe a couple of other places.  All 
> in 
> > all 
> > > I 
> > > > think FZ would be pleased, but I'm curious to know what some 
> of 
> > the 
> > > > rest of you might think about this. 
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > >   1 DVD-R traveling with 2 VCD discs. Compatible for DVD or 
> CD 
> > > > burners.
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > >   Jim L US << Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] << 
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > >   Jim L
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
---
> ---
> > --
> > > --
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >   From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > com] On Behalf Of Guy
> > > > >   Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:58 PM
> > > > >   To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >   Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: Joe's Garage the Rock Opera?
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > >   Wow! That sounds great. I'd love to see that (and perform 
> in 
> > > it)!
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >   --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Jim L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > > >   >
> > > > >   > Anyone seen this yet?

[Zappa-List] Re: Vine Open: Instant Bootleg Collection Vol. 3 & 4 {FINALLY!}

2006-04-28 Thread neil_hawkins2003

Great offer, me too please

>>r2daft2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - UK >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] nick
UK>>Luis - Ar >> Neil UK

Regards

Neil 

--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, lusi tanio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> please, count me in too.in whatever leg is available!
>
>   >>r2daft2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - UK >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] nick UK>>Luis - Ar 
> >> 
>
>   cheers
>   Luis
> 
> 
> 
> Nick Ullmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   WOW! count me in too!
> 
> >>r2daft2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - UK >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] nick UK<<
> 
> 
> 
> Kind Regards, nick
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Original Message Follows
> From: "Les Watts" 
> Reply-To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
> To: 
> Subject: RE: [Zappa-List] Vine Open: Instant Bootleg Collection Vol.
3 & 4 
> {FINALLY!}
> Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:50:53 +0100
> 
> Certainly worth the wait. Count me in:
> 
> >>r2daft2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - UK >>
> 
> If the chain is subject to Return of the Son of De-pondhopinisation (or
> whatever) then just include me in the Euro-leg.
> 
> Cheers
> Les.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of forbin_99
> Sent: 27 April 2006 21:32
> To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Zappa-List] Vine Open: Instant Bootleg Collection Vol. 3 & 4
> {FINALLY!}
> 
> 
> Hello again folks. I'm glad to see that I.B.C. Vol. 1 & 2 are still
> making the rounds. Sorry it's taken me so long to get 3 & 4 together
> but HERE IT IS!!! Thanks again to all of the fine folks at the
> Zappateers for all of their posts which is where all of these came
> from and to Zappa-List which has provided me with quite a bit of
> fine Frank tunes. Continuing on in this series is Vol. 3 & 4 whith
> shows and demos spanning FZ's carreer. Enough of my blathering
> though, here's what's on what.
> 
> Volume 3:
> 
> 1990-00-00 The Valdez Score, broadcasted NOS Supplement FM 1991-??-??
> 
> 14:36 min, FM A+
> 
> This is a rebroadcast from the piece that saw it's world premiere at
> NOS Supplement 1990-12-21. There was no permission to broadcast the
> piece in it's entire length so a few minutes are still missing.
> 
> 
> Tracklist:
> 
> 01 The Valdez Score
> 
> Lineage:
> FM>AIWA?? tape deck>TDK SA-90 cassette>TEAC W790R tape deck>Terratec
> DMX6 Fire soundcard>Adobe Audition 1.5>WAV>Waves L3 Ultramaximizer
> 16 bits mastering>Flac Frontend encoding level 5>FLAC
> 
> show recorded by: unknown
> tape transferred: WIU2B
> -
> --
> 
> 1981 August - UMRK rehearsals
> 
> 
> According to JN
> ??-Aug? 1981, UMRK, Los Angeles, CA
> 23 min, B+/B
> Filthy Habits, Five-Five-Five, Canarsie, Heavy Duty Judy, Soup 'n
> Old Clothes, Watermelon In Easter Hay, King Kong
> 
> 
> Ripped from traded audio cdr.
> Indexing only (with shntool) by av (it was a unique file)
> 
> Thanks to C for the tape.
> 
> 
> 1:19.68 810800 Umrk - 01 Filthy Habits.flac
> 6:22.66 810800 Umrk - 02 Five-Five-Five.flac
> 1:37.72 810800 Umrk - 03 Canarsie.flac
> 7:53.72 810800 Umrk - 04 Heavy Duty Judy.flac
> 3:18.65 810800 Umrk - 05 Soup'n'Old Clothes.flac
> 2:04.36 810800 Umrk - 06 snippets.flac
> 
> 22:38.04 (totals for 6 files, 0.5265 overall compression
> ratio)
> 
> 
> Brought to you by amnesivivace
> -
> --
> 
> 31-Oct 1981, Palladium, NYC
> Early show: SBD, A-
> 
> You Are What You Is,
> Mudd Club,
> The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing,
> Dumb All Over/Heavenly Bank Account/Suicide Chump (YCDTOSA 1),
> Jumbo Go Away,
> Envelopes,
> Drowning Witch,
> What's New In Baltimore?,
> Moggio,
> We're Turning Again,
> Alien Orifice,
> Teenage Prostitute,
> Flakes,
> Broken Hearts Are For Assholes,
> The Blue Light,
> Tinseltown Rebellion,
> Yo Mama,
> Bobby Brown,
> City Of Tiny Lights,
> Strictly Genteel, ]
> Dancin' Fool,
> Whippin' Post
> 
> Source: 129 min 19 sec, SBD
> Lineage: wav > SF7 > flac frontend (lvl 7, ) & CDR
> Taped by: N/A
> Transfered by: MrUMRK
> Edited by: MrUMRK
> File Size: 795MB GB (FLAC)
> 
> 
> Frank Zappa's Band:
> Ed Mann - percussion
> Tommy Mars - keyboards
> Robert Martin (Bobby) - keyboards, tenor saxophone, vocals
> Scott Thunes - bass, vocals
> Steve Vai - guitar
> Chad Wackerman - drums
> Ray White - guitar, vocals
> Frank Zappa - guitar, vocals
> Note: Lisa Popeil was part of the band at the August rehearsals
> 
> 
> Notes:
> 
> abbreviations:
> tf = tapeflip
> [ = cut at the end
> ] = cut at the beginning
> ~ = fading in/out or connects two or more tracks played like one
> (medley)
> -IC = incomplete
> & = added from dif source, complete or partly
> °°° = walk's notes
> 
> 
> Converted three files from wav to flac with Sound forge 7 NO EQ done
> 
> 
> Part 1..43m
> Highest peak -0.48dB.adjust to -0.1dB
> SA of 1st minute..19.9dB drop over 1kHz~10kHz range..no
> adjustment
> 
> Part 2..40m40s
> Highest peak -0.78dB.adjust to -0.1dB
> SA of 1st minute..18.1dB drop over 1kHz~10kHz range...

[Zappa-List] Re: Mike Douglas Show- Anybody own the DVD featuring Zappa jamming

2006-04-28 Thread sharpdressedmaniac2005

So how is the DVD quality in regards to Frank's performance? Is it 
an editted version (fade out to commercial) of Black Napkins? Any 
other FZ performance on the disc?

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wrote:
>
> Here ya go mate!!
>   Cherrs!
>   Chris
> 
> sharpdressedmaniac2005 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   with the MD band? 
> 
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/mike_douglas_show_vol_7/cast_crew.php
> If I remember correctly, Zappa performed Black Napkins, man was I 
> surprised to turn on the tube that morning in 1976 and see Frank.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Vine Open: 1967 & 1969 - FLAC & SHN formats

2006-04-28 Thread Les Watts






Hi 
Folks,
 
This vine arrived 
safely in the UK today.
Posting to Peter 
tomorrow.
 
<< Peter Moorkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Belgium <[EMAIL PROTECTED] << Greg  H in  Detroit [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>
Cheers
Les.

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 02 March 2006 23:59To: 
  Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Vine Open: 
  1967 & 1969 - FLAC & SHN formats
  So that makes it: 
  Tom M-US << r2daft2-UK << Peter Moorkins 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Belgium <[EMAIL PROTECTED] << 
  Greg  H in  Detroit [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  >>Yours in proper vineage,
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[Zappa-List] Re: John G- addy for Instant Boot Collection DVD

2006-04-28 Thread skipsign

John G, I still need your address.

-Skip

--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "skipsign" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> John G, I need your address and the DVD will be on it's way to you.
> 
> -Skip
> 
> --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "del b"  wrote:
> >
> > > -Skipster,
> > 
> > need an address for instant boot
> > 
> > del
> > > >
> > > >The List is now: << del b (USA) << skipster2001- US < > > >croontoonz1950@< > >
> >
>

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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: John G- addy for Instant Boot Collection DVD

2006-04-28 Thread jcoonk






Don't mean to speak for John, but:
 
john g in kansas here---
John Gobetz
488 Fieldcrest
Pittsburg, Kansas 66762
thank you---jz
 
Regards,
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
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  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 4:25 
PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: John G- addy 
  for Instant Boot Collection DVD
  John G, I still need your address.-Skip--- 
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  "skipsign" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> John G, I need your 
  address and the DVD will be on it's way to you.> > -Skip> 
  > --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "del 
  b"  wrote:> >> > > -Skipster,> 
  > > > need an address for instant boot> > > > 
  del> > > >> > > >The List is now: << del 
  b (USA) << skipster2001- US <> > > 
  >croontoonz1950@<> > >> 
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[Zappa-List] Re: VO: Thing-Fish premix demos(FLAC)

2006-04-28 Thread Stucco Holmes

Hi,
Third call for Matt - USA...
Nick..you are after him so, I'll give him another day,perhaps he is 
unavailable till Sat so, go head and send me yer address and I'll pass 
it on to you next.
Chris

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RE: [Zappa-List] Re: VO Joe's Garage the Rock Opera?

2006-04-28 Thread Jim L

I've still got my original. Did this one get lost in the mail or something?
I think If I restart it it should probably be hopinated rather than doing a
crisscross. Let me know. 

Jim L
-Original Message-
From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Conehead
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 3:11 AM
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO Joe's Garage the Rock Opera?

--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Guy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Package on the way to Joe.DP in NJ today.
> 
> 

That's almost three months ago, since Feb.09.
Any chance to bring this vine back on the move ?? 
What happened to Jim's copy ? 

Guy-US << Joe.DP-US < --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Guy"  wrote:
> >
> > Got this in the mail today. Thank you Jim L.
> > Will copy and send off in a day or two.
> > Joe.DP, please get your mailing address to me.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Guy"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Jim. My 17 year old son is looking forward to this one 
> too.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Jim L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Guy - US << Joe.DP-US < > from 
> > > Kansas
> > > > <<
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > This one went out yesterday. Be watching for it Guy and please 
> > tell 
> > > us what
> > > > you think of the show.
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Jim L
> > > > 
> > > >   _  
> > > > 
> > > > From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa-
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > > Behalf Of John Gobetz
> > > > Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 9:54 PM
> > > > To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO Joe's Garage the Rock Opera?
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > yes please!!!---thank you---  Jim L US << Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] << 
> > > Joe.DP-US
> > > > < > > > 
> > > > - Original Message - 
> > > > 
> > > > From: Richard   
> > > > 
> > > > To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > 
> > > > Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 5:42 PM
> > > > 
> > > > Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO Joe's Garage the Rock Opera?
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Jim L US << Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] << Joe.DP-US < Richard 
> > > Moore
> > > > UK << 
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Yes Please...Thanks!
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > - Original Message - 
> > > > 
> > > > From: Conehead   
> > > > 
> > > > To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > 
> > > > Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 10:25 PM
> > > > 
> > > > Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO Joe's Garage the Rock Opera?
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Jim L US << Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] << Joe.DP-US < > > > 
> > > > Me too, please. Thanks.
> > > > 
> > > > Conehead-BE
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Della Posta" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim L US << Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] << Joe.DP-US <<
> > > > > 
> > > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > If this is going to be available I want a chance to watch it 
> > also.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks for sharing
> > > > > 
> > > > > Joe.DP
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >   - Original Message - 
> > > > >   From: Jim L 
> > > > >   To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > >   Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 10:46 PM
> > > > >   Subject: RE: [Zappa-List] Re: VO Joe's Garage the Rock 
> Opera?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >   I finally got a chance to watch this. Now I work at a 
> > > university 
> > > > and have spent a good deal of time around the theatre 
> department. 
> > > > While I can imagine the students giving this one all they had, 
> I 
> > > can't 
> > > > imagine the Dean or administration letting them do it.  I can 
> > only 
> > > > commend the University of Michigan and any involved in this 
> > project 
> > > > back in 1999. What we have here is a decent band and a bunch 
> of 
> > > young 
> > > > people that really did justice to Joe's story and our favorite 
> > > > composer. (imho) I'm not usually much for choreographed shows 
> but 
> > > this 
> > > > is an exception. They didn't clean it up any that I noticed 
> > ether. 
> > > Ike 
> > > > helps out on Lucile and maybe a couple of other places.  All 
> in 
> > all 
> > > I 
> > > > think FZ would be pleased, but I'm curious to know what some 
> of 
> > the 
> > > > rest of you might think about this. 
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > >   1 DVD-R traveling with 2 VCD discs. Compatible for DVD or 
> CD 
> > > > burners.
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > >   Jim L US << Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] << 
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > >   Jim L
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
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> ---
> > --
> > > --
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >   From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > com] On Behalf Of Guy
> > > > >   Sent: Mond

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