Re: [Zappa-List] VO - PAL/NTSC DVD+AV I- The Yellow Shark - Frank Zappa / Ensemble Modern
Damn near about time! Friggin' postal system. And they're raising the price of stamps again. Just received this from Mr Skull - Thank you, sir! And many thanks to Jim L for starting this one up!
Re: [Zappa-List] Zappa Beer
When seeing this subject come up I'm reminded of the irony. Does anyone else recall FZ going on briefly about beer (and its association with stupidity) in the Real Frank Zappa Book? and of course there would be his stance against drugs in general, and alcohol is in fact a drug (albeit a legal drug as opposed to those 'untaxed' drugs) As I said, irony. Mr. Skull
Re: [Zappa-List] Zappa Beer
almost forgot - Who in their right mind would associate Mrs. Zappa's idiotic and greedy with being liberal ( media created and mentally conditioned term in my opinion)? I associate stupid and greedy behavior with politicians of all kinds in general. I think FZ would have agreed. (You say your life's a bum deal and you're up against the wall? Well people you ain't got no kinda deal at all, cause what they do down in Washingtum...) Is this guy sure he's on the correct list? Skull
[Zappa-List] Shark
Sorry if I mentioned this already. Between moving, caring for a three month old and not sleeping I can barely remember my name. so just in case, the discs for the Yellow Shark vine have gone on to John Keating. I think I may have notified him, not sure about the group. So here it is. Mr. Skull
Re: [Zappa-List] Frank Zappa article on www.jazz.com
Wouldn't have ever happened. FZ expressed his extreme dislike of Miles on at least one occasion I can recall. Mr. Skull . . . and perhaps even fantasize about what might have happened if Miles had given FZ the call for the Bitches Brew sessions. You can read the article here http://www.jazz.com/dozens/the-dozens-the-jazzy-side-of-frank-zappa Check out the rest of the site while you are visiting. There are probably a number of articles and reviews of interest to members of this group. http://www.jazz.com Regards, Ted Gioia [EMAIL PROTECTED] For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Zappa-List] RE: Frank Zappa article on www.jazz.com
BerichtIt was in a Guitar Player magazine interview if memory serves. I probably still have it as I NEVER throw out anything 'Frank'. But it wasn't about his music, it was about Miles Davis as a person. He recalled going to see Miles in the early Sixties and went to meet him after the show. He relates walking up to MD to introduce himself and shake Miles' hand. According to Frank, after saying something along the lines of 'Mr. Davis, my name is Frank Zappa and I enjoyed your show' etc Miles turned his back on FZ and completely ignored\snubbed him. Frank goes on to say how this stuck with him and he made sure to never treat his fans this way. Hope that clears things up. Mr. Skull Wouldn't have ever happened. FZ expressed his extreme dislike of Miles on at least one occasion I can recall. Really? Any idea why or what period of Miles' music he was referring to? best wishes, Marco http://www.wmrecordings.com WM Recordings PO Box 26 6400 AA Heerlen The Netherlands eFax +31 (0)84 724 5674
Re: [Zappa-List] RE: Frank Zappa article on www.jazz.com
Well, come to find out over the years that he wasn't much a human being. He's a pretty good musician, if you acquire my drift Skull Whoa, what blatant callous.. :/ -- Christoffer Heggem, http://whorehou.se/ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Zappa-List] VO - PAL/NTSC DVD+AV I- The Yellow Shark - Frank Zappa / Ensemble Modern
John K and all of those waiting on this vine. Huge embarrassment. I gave my word i would send the discs to John yesterday. I do not give my word casually. It's something I always follow through on. But here's the deal I screwed up and failed to take care of this prior to moving. and now I can't find the discs amid all of the packed boxes. I know I *DO* in fact have them. It's just a matter of time. I sincerely apologize for the inconvenience and will copy and ship as soon as I find them. I beg everyone's patience and apologize again for this idiotic mistake on my part. Thank you, Mr. Skull
[Zappa-List] VO Yellow Shark - UPDATE
Sorry to make more noise, but as people are waiting... I just came across the discs for this vine. I will copy and mail immediately. John K, please contact me off-list so I can have your e-maill address to let you know when I send them Apologies for all this nonsense. Skull
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?
Yes she does, and you're absolutely right about that. I'll now raise the bar even further. Now that we have a kid, she's going to follow through on a plan she's had for years - to buy our daughter the kid sized Titties and Beer t-shirt, and you can bet she'll take our little mutant out in public in it. She cried the day Frank died. The trick is to find and marry a weird woman. Your wife likes Zappa? Your a lucky man indeed Mr Skull. It's been my observation that female Zappa fans are few and far between. Mrs Skull is probably a keeper for sure. Jim L
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO - PAL/NTSC DVD+AV I- The Yellow Shark - Frank Zappa / Ensemble Modern
There are three (3) discs in this set. UPDATE I've been slowed down. Tried to copy the discs and found that i need to get DVD-R discs. So Between that and tending my nine week old daughter, I've been slowed down. Anyone here who has kids gets this. I'll get the discs shortly and then send them on. My apologies. Mr. Skull Thanks for the heads up. What is the total number of DVDs that are being passed around in this FZ-YS batch? For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Zappa-List] Nappy's Fate? ; one more comment, but not fate related
Napoleon is the man. He's part of the reason I love that NMB\Ruth\tom\George Duke\Chester line up more than others. It's my favorite Zappa configuration. Flo and Eddie!? Fuckabuncha Flo and Eddie, it's Napoleon man. And to think I never knew he was called Nappy... About 2 or 3 years ago I got a chance to talk to Napoleon at a Project/Object concert in Baltimore. It was an enjoyable conversation; he talked about healthy foods- various milk shakes, lots of vegetables- his BALLScd, and he even launched into an impromptu Room Service routine, egging me on to join him as the Frank part of it. That was a real treat for me. I also asked him if he had any news on the Roxy video release and he said that he had bveen in contact with Gail and that the movie was going to be released (his words) Real Soon, it's coming out real soon, about 2 or 3 months My guess is that is what he was told, but that obviously did not happen. If anyone reading this has never seen Napoleon perform and you do get an opportunity you should make it a point to go. The man works harder than most performers I have seen. He is non-stop stage action and he really puts his whole heart and soul into a performence. I was lucky to see him sometime in the 70's and considrer myself fortunate to get a chance to talk to him when I did. Ike Willis was also at that show and the band was tight. Marc
[Zappa-List] VO - PAL/NTSC DVD+AV I- The Yellow Shark - Frank Zappa / Ensemble Modern
UPDATE I've been slowed down. Tried to copy the discs and found that i need to get DVD-R discs. So Between that and tending my nine week old daughter, I've been slowed down. Anyone here who has kids gets this. I'll get the discs shortly and then send them on. My apologies. Mr. Skull
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?
Honestly, no. Truth is I've never conversed with any *serious* Zappa fans until this list. I've met many who really like him, have seen shows, own recorded material but that's it. If it ever was uttered in any of the recordings of live shows I've watched or heard, I missed it. Sincere question: In your years of Zappa fandom, you've never heard / read anyone refer to him by the diminutive Nappy (or Napi)? --Milhouse -- Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?
I was just thinking about the Society Pages last night. Is it still being printed? I'm sure I picked it up somewhere online, if not here then maybe a.f.f-z - but you're right, I don't ever remember reading the term in either Motherpeople or Society Pages. Rest assured it's a fond diminutive. It does my heart good to see Ray White getting in there with a different mix of songs but at the same time it breaks my heart to think of Napoleon being treated unfairly (again). imho YMMV David See me on MySpace at: www.myspace.com/davidblanglois -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 9:12 pm Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate? In a message dated 1/15/08 10:11:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I always knew him as Napoleon Murphy Brock. Sincere question: In your years of Zappa fandom, you've never heard / read anyone refer to him by the diminutive Nappy (or Napi)? --Milhouse -- Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year. -- More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail!
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?
It's cool. No ffense taken. My response was not intended to be nasty, I just was trying to get across that I've lived my life in a bit of a bubble when it comes to Zappa. The only other person I know who is serious about Frank is my wife. Even the guy who turned me onto Frank in High School eventually got over him whatever in the hell that means. Yes, humor belongs in e-mail groups, like music. But without facial expressions, tove of voice and vcal inflection we tend to misinterpret each other Hello Mr (or is this the Mrs?) Skull, I apologize if my question appeared accusatory- I did not mean that at all. On most of the Zappa related groups I've gone to there are many questions asked in jest that appear to be serious (Does Humor belong in an Email group?) Sometimes a very esoteric reference will be made just to see what responses it will provoke. Again, I meant no insult but I was truly wondering if you were serious. Marc (who is also merely a Zappa fan) - Original Message - From: mr_and_mrs_skull To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate? Again, I've always known him as Napoleon Murphy Brock. Maybe i'm just not hip enough to be in on this, seeing as how I'm merely a Zappa fan. Don't care about ZPZ's, Project Object etc. I just like Frank and what he did so I may be a bit of a clueless outsider. Are you serious about this question? Marc - Original Message - From: mr_and_mrs_skull To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate? Who the hell is this Nappy person anyhow? All I know is that Nappy was origianlly penciled in for this past years tour but something must have happened because he said he couldn't make a deal with the devil (GZ). That was why they got Ray White. --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read a hint of something not fully explained on a web site saying that the ZFT had done Nappy wrong - could someone possibly clue me in? Concerned for Nappy, David See me on MySpace at: www.myspace.com/davidblanglois More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?
Looks like You, Eli and myself are outsiders... For what it's worth, I never called Napoleon Nappy either and wouldn't be surprised if he smacked my condescending ass one for that, either. On the alleged thread of this I heard from backstage talk (so take it with a grain of salt) that there was always some tension in the ZFT camp since Napoleon would not agree to work exclusively for the Zappa Plays Zappa band. He was not about to turn down a gig with Project/Object or any other Zappa tribute outfit that was not authorized by the Zappa Family Trust. As I said, this was hearsay so take it as such, although it does make a certain amount of logic (if not sense). Not Dead Yet, Bill Amutis [EMAIL PROTECTED] web.mac.com/mredison (Ol' Baggy Eyes) Progress is not possible without deviation from the norm-Frank Zappa On Jan 15, 2008, at 7:37 PM, John Gobetz wrote: Hmmm---well, that offers some explanation as to the reasoning of why I saw Ray White at the ZPZ show in Tulsa last year instead of Nappy other FZ alumni---mind you, Ray did a great job, even tho' I hadn't expected him to be there---things must be getting really funky over at the ZFT---hope they get it together---I wanna see ZPZ again!---keep it cool Nappy!!---we're all pullin' for ya!!!---john G in kansas - Original Message - From: kevcaf1 To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 2:53 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate? All I know is that Nappy was origianlly penciled in for this past years tour but something must have happened because he said he couldn't make a deal with the devil (GZ). That was why they got Ray White. --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read a hint of something not fully explained on a web site saying that the ZFT had done Nappy wrong - could someone possibly clue me in? Concerned for Nappy, David See me on MySpace at: www.myspace.com/davidblanglois __ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.2/1224 - Release Date: 1/14/2008 5:39 PM =
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?
Who the hell is this Nappy person anyhow? All I know is that Nappy was origianlly penciled in for this past years tour but something must have happened because he said he couldn't make a deal with the devil (GZ). That was why they got Ray White. --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read a hint of something not fully explained on a web site saying that the ZFT had done Nappy wrong - could someone possibly clue me in? Concerned for Nappy, David See me on MySpace at: www.myspace.com/davidblanglois More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?
I always knew him as Napoleon Murphy Brock. And the answer is Lancaster Who the hell is this Nappy person anyhow? Napoleon Murphy Brock. Where you been'n livin'? Reseda? --Milhouse -- Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape in the new year.
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?
Again, I've always known him as Napoleon Murphy Brock. Maybe i'm just not hip enough to be in on this, seeing as how I'm merely a Zappa fan. Don't care about ZPZ's, Project Object etc. I just like Frank and what he did so I may be a bit of a clueless outsider. Are you serious about this question? Marc - Original Message - From: mr_and_mrs_skull To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate? Who the hell is this Nappy person anyhow? All I know is that Nappy was origianlly penciled in for this past years tour but something must have happened because he said he couldn't make a deal with the devil (GZ). That was why they got Ray White. --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read a hint of something not fully explained on a web site saying that the ZFT had done Nappy wrong - could someone possibly clue me in? Concerned for Nappy, David See me on MySpace at: www.myspace.com/davidblanglois More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links
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[Zappa-List] The Yellow Shark - Frank Zappa / Ensemble Modern
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RE: [Zappa-List] VO - PAL/DVD - The Yellow Shark - Frank Zappa / Ensemble Modern
I was under the impression that it could be converted. For any of you that didn't get this already. You need to be able to copy a DVD disc for this one. It also helps if you have a DVD player that can play a PAL disc on your NTSC TV if you're in the US. Just sign up and I will hoppinate before sending out next week. Oh buy the way this is concert is fantastic and the quality of this DVD is very high. - details --- Frank Zappa / Ensemble Modern The Yellow Shark Alte Oper, Frankfurt, Germany 17 sept 1992 1h 29mn 22s (trailer + intro: 2mn) Recording encoding by CosmikD TV sat SkyStar2 DVBDream PVAStrumento TMPGEnc Plus Synchro with TVP audio source. Video (Classica source): DVD PAL MPEG-2 720x576 25 i/s CBR 6000kbps Audio (TVP Kultura source): 48000 Hz 384 Kb/s) Authoring animation by unicrayon Menu with Chapters: 1. Classica Trailer 2. Overture 3. Dog/Meat 4. Outrage at Valdez 5. Times Beach II 6. III (Revised) 7. Magnesium Dress 8. Be-Bop Tango 9. Food Gathering 10. Ruth is Sleeping 11. Amnerika 12. None of the Above pt1 13. Pentagon Afternoon 14. Times Beach III 15. Welcome to the United States 16. Pound for a Brown 17. Get Whitey 18. G-Spot Tornado A Zappateers Production - www.zappateers.com For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Zappa-List] Test
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RE: [Zappa-List] Test
Had it been an actual emergency, I would have advised you to use the chicken to measure it... Thank goodness! Had this been an actual emergency, you'd probably have advised us to do all kinds of defensive stuff... (That was close) SOFA - Original Message - From: Mr_and_Mrs_Skull mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 12:27 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] Test Just a test
RE: [Zappa-List] VO - PAL/DVD - The Yellow Shark - Frank Zappa / Ensemble Modern
Count me in Jim Jim L (US) Mr. Skull (US) For any of you that didn't get this already. You need to be able to copy a DVD disc for this one. It also helps if you have a DVD player that can play a PAL disc on your NTSC TV if you're in the US. Just sign up and I will hoppinate before sending out next week. Oh buy the way this is concert is fantastic and the quality of this DVD is very high. - details --- Frank Zappa / Ensemble Modern The Yellow Shark Alte Oper, Frankfurt, Germany 17 sept 1992 1h 29mn 22s (trailer + intro: 2mn) Recording encoding by CosmikD TV sat SkyStar2 DVBDream PVAStrumento TMPGEnc Plus Synchro with TVP audio source. Video (Classica source): DVD PAL MPEG-2 720x576 25 i/s CBR 6000kbps Audio (TVP Kultura source): 48000 Hz 384 Kb/s) Authoring animation by unicrayon Menu with Chapters: 1. Classica Trailer 2. Overture 3. Dog/Meat 4. Outrage at Valdez 5. Times Beach II 6. III (Revised) 7. Magnesium Dress 8. Be-Bop Tango 9. Food Gathering 10. Ruth is Sleeping 11. Amnerika 12. None of the Above pt1 13. Pentagon Afternoon 14. Times Beach III 15. Welcome to the United States 16. Pound for a Brown 17. Get Whitey 18. G-Spot Tornado A Zappateers Production - www.zappateers.com For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Zappa-List] VO - PAL/DVD - The Yellow Shark - Frank Zappa / Ensemble Modern
Hoppinate? Jim L (US) For any of you that didn't get this already. You need to be able to copy a DVD disc for this one. It also helps if you have a DVD player that can play a PAL disc on your NTSC TV if you're in the US. Just sign up and I will hoppinate before sending out next week. Oh buy the way this is concert is fantastic and the quality of this DVD is very high. - details --- Frank Zappa / Ensemble Modern The Yellow Shark Alte Oper, Frankfurt, Germany 17 sept 1992 1h 29mn 22s (trailer + intro: 2mn) Recording encoding by CosmikD TV sat SkyStar2 DVBDream PVAStrumento TMPGEnc Plus Synchro with TVP audio source. Video (Classica source): DVD PAL MPEG-2 720x576 25 i/s CBR 6000kbps Audio (TVP Kultura source): 48000 Hz 384 Kb/s) Authoring animation by unicrayon Menu with Chapters: 1. Classica Trailer 2. Overture 3. Dog/Meat 4. Outrage at Valdez 5. Times Beach II 6. III (Revised) 7. Magnesium Dress 8. Be-Bop Tango 9. Food Gathering 10. Ruth is Sleeping 11. Amnerika 12. None of the Above pt1 13. Pentagon Afternoon 14. Times Beach III 15. Welcome to the United States 16. Pound for a Brown 17. Get Whitey 18. G-Spot Tornado A Zappateers Production - www.zappateers.com For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Zappa-List] Re: Help
Test(icles) Is this received? -Original Message- From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of robert smith Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:06 PM To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: Help If this is a recurring problem, would it be possible to send along with the discs a sheet of paper with FLAC instructions? or a good link to read up on FLAC? I have a bit of music in FLAC format from other artists, but it might be a good idea for those that are venturing out of the mp3 format. Robert
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Re: [Zappa-List] Anybucy know if the ZappaFamily Trust et al has ever released the
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: New To Group with Questions- VARESE
Actually my copy of Ionisation includes Octandre and Density (I seem to recall it listed as "Densities" but could be mistaken). But I've never heard Ameriques. I'll take a look at Overstock and check the prices. Thanks for the tip. Overstock.Com has two Edgar Varese recordings, both featuring Ionisation and Deserts. If you aren't familiar with Ameriques, I would highly recommend it- a gargantuan wall of 20th century symphonic sound. One of the recordings features Density 21.5, a magnificnet flute solo, very fluidic modern melodies. --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Question 4- any Varese fan's out there?" Yes. Have Ionisation and Deserts. Need to get them on Cd though. My turntable is a thing of the past. Someone needs to a complete Varese box set. Mr. Skull For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Zappa-List] VARESE A LA MODE Con Zappa
I hear the Varese influence on Frank in his use of percussion and atonal use of instruments. But Frank wore his influences on his sleeve when it comes to Varese and Stravinsky both. Is Poeme Electronique the one with the firehorns in it? Another interesting work by Varese- Poeme Electronique- modified taped and electronic effects created for a World's Fair exhibit I believe. Perhaps a clue to Zappa's fascination with taped tidbits punctuating his comedy music.My original exposure to Varese (via Zappa referral) was on vinyl- Robert Craft conducting.BTW, there are two versions of Density 21.5- 21.5 pertaining to the density of platinum. Varese composed the piece for the inaugural presentation of the platinum flute. There is a detailed analysis of the composition found on Wikipedia- look it up as Density 21.5.--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually my copy of Ionisation includes Octandre and Density (I seem to recall it listed as "Densities" but could be mistaken). But I've never heard Ameriques. I'll take a look at Overstock and check the prices. Thanks for the tip. Overstock.Com has two Edgar Varese recordings, both featuring Ionisation and Deserts. If you aren't familiar with Ameriques, I would highly recommend it- a gargantuan wall of 20th century symphonic sound. One of the recordings features Density 21.5, a magnificnet flute solo, very fluidic modern melodies. --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, mr_and_mrs_skull@ wrote: "Question 4- any Varese fan's out there?" Yes. Have Ionisation and Deserts. Need to get them on Cd though. My turntable is a thing of the past. Someone needs to a complete Varese box set. Mr. Skull For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] New To Group with Questions-
"Question 4- any Varese fan's out there?" Yes. Have Ionisation and Deserts. Need to get them on Cd though. My turntable is a thing of the past. Someone needs to a complete Varese box set. Mr. Skull For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: seek your advice
On that note, I've always thought YCDTOSA Vol. was a great live one, especially regarding its "RUTH" content... Try "Roxy and Elsewhere". It does contain some "silly" lyrics (some of the better silly lyrics) but it has lots of fine FINE instrumental sections executed by some of his best sidemen (and sidewoman) ever, IMHO. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] seek your advice
Frank's instrumental\orchestral\'arranged' music has always been my preferred Zappa listening. With that in mind I really like "Lather", Hot Rats\Waka Jawaka (a separate and distinct title from "Hot Rats") and "The Yellow Shark". "Jazz From Hell" is purty cool too. With "Lather" I just program out the vocal tracks when I'm not in the mood for them. Try it, you'll love it, it's a way of life... Mr. Skull Hi,I'm a relative newbie to Frank Zappa music. To begin I bought a "best of album" to get a sampling (with over 70+ albums to chose from and such a wide variety it is hard to choose!).The first song on the album - "Peaches En Regalia" hit me right up front and I would like to ask which other songs/albums offer similar styles of compositions. The vocal stuff doesn't do much for me at this stage, but I'm really hungry for the "peaches" style compositions.Any advice or pointers would be appreciated.thanks.-Rob For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: MITB - vine
That was fast. It certainly wasn't on the part of the USPS. And you answered the question I asked which was ignored about the origin of this vine Mr. Skull The MITB has arrived here safe and sound today !! Thank you Mr.Skull!And thanks to Steve who has put together this fantastic set in the first place. Looking forward to hear it all. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Zappa-List] MITB - Movin' the Project Fohwud
The MITB are on the move again. I sent them to Conehead in Belgium this morning. Now they are in the hands of those gorillas collectively known as the United States Post Office. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Zappa-List] MITB Track Listing
Group, Mr. Keating kindly gave this to me once, and I promptly lost it. Could someone please provide me with the track listing for MITB please? Thanks, Mr. Skull For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] VO:1969 Amougies Non EURO or US Vine + November, 17, 1981, The Ritz, NYC
I'd really like to get in on this as well. Thanks, Mr. Skull Jim L - US Ted B US SOFA - US Guy K - US Joe.DP - US Scott B - US John K - US John G from KansasMr. Skull US For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] MITB Track Listing
Thanks~! Igave it to you once, I can give it to you again...Here you go! John K FRANK ZAPPA THE MOTHERS OF INVENTIONMusic is the Best: 26 Years of Conceptual Continuity (1962 - 1988)CD1 (Total time: 78:38) FINAL1) RAY COLLINS - Deseri (FZ on drums)2) NED NELDA - Hey Nelda (FZ co-songwriter, played most of theinstruments)3) NED NELDA - Surf Along (FZ co-songwriter, played most of theinstruments)4) THE HOLLYWOOD PERSUADERS - Grunion Run (FZ songwriter, FZ onguitars, bass drums)5) THE ROTATIONS - Heavies (FZ producer)6) BURT WARD - Boy Wonder I Love You (FZ arranger, conductor, songwriter)7) BURT WARD - Orange Colored Sky (FZ arranger, conductor)8) Hungry Freaks Daddy (Mothermania version)9) Who are the Brain Police? (Mothermania version)10) How Could I Be Such a Fool? (45 version)11) You Didn't Try To Call Me (Old Masters version)12) You're Probably Wondering Why I'm Here (Mothermania version)13) Trouble Every Day (UK single version)14) It Can't Happen Here (Mothermania version)15) Call Any Vegetable (Mothermania version)16) Why Don'tcha Do Me Right? (Trick or Treat LP version)17) Remington Electric Razor radio spot18) Who Needs the Peace Corps? (demo)19) Mom and Dad (demo)20) Harry, You're a Beast (demo)21) What's the Ugliest Part of Your Body? (demo)22) The Idiot Bastard Son (Mothermania version)23) Mother People (Mothermania version)24) Lonely Little Girl (new version)25) Lumpy Gravy Excerpt (Transparency edit)26) Sink Trap (acetate)27) Gypsy Airs (acetate)28) Jelly Roll Gumdrop (45 version)29) Stuff Up the Cracks (Old Masters version)CD2 (Total time: 78:50) FINAL1) My Guitar (Unedited single version)2) Uncle Meat Radio Spot - Medley3) Dog Breath (single version)4) Mr. Green Genes (Old Masters version)5) Hot Rats Radio Spot - Peaches en Regalia6) Peaches en Regalia (Old Masters)7) Willie the Pimp (Old Masters)8) Son of Mr. Green Genes (Old Masters version)9) Hot Rats Radio Spot - Little Umbrellas10) Little Umbrellas (Old Masters version)11) The Gumbo Variations (Old Masters version)12) It Must Be a Camel (Old Masters version)13) Hot Rats Radio Spot - The Gumbo Variations14) Bognor Regis (outtake)15) Theme from Burnt Weeny Sandwich (demo)16) Do It Now Radio Spot - Suzie Speedfreak17) Weasels Ripped My Flesh Radio Spot #318) Didja Get Any Onya? (Old Masters version)19) Prelude to the Afternoon of a Sexually Aroused Gas Mask (OldMasters version)20) Weasels Ripped My Flesh Radio Spot #421) My Guitar Wants to Kill Your Mama (Old Masters version)CD3 (Total time: 77:56) FINAL1) Willie The Pimp, Pt 1 (live, import version, ends abruptly)2) Tears Began to Fall (single version)3) Junior Mintz Boogie4) Willie the Pimp, Pt 2 (Old Masters version)5) Studebaker Hoch / Don't Fuck Around (live, unedited, 8/7/71)6) Just Another Unreleased Solo (live, 8/7/71)7) Who Are The Brain Police (live, 11/1/71)8) 1972 Voter Registration Spot9) I'm the Slime (single version)10) Apostrophe TV Commercial (audio track)11) Uncle Remus (instrumental version)12) Roxy DVD trailer (audio track)13) Cheepnis (Discreet vinyl version)14) Dog Meat (KCET remaster)15) Montana (KCET remaster)16) Duke Solo (KCET remaster)17) Approximate (KCET remaster)18) Cosmik Debris (KCET remaster)CD4 (Total Time: 78:02) FINAL1) Stinkfoot (KCET remaster)2) Pygmy Twylyte (KCET remaster)3) Inca Roads (KCET remaster)4) Oh No (KCET remaster)5) Son of Orange County (KCET remaster)6) More Trouble Every Day (KCET remaster)7) A Token of My Extreme Outro (KCET remaster)8) Orange Claw Hammer (live 11/1/75)9) 200Years Old (acetate)10) Black Napkins (live 2/3/76, Osaka, Japan)11) Ship Ahoy (live 2/3/76, Osaka, Japan)12) Find Her Finer (Old Masters version)13) Disco Boy (WB LP version)CD5 (Total Time: 77:41) FINAL1) Ms. Pinky (WB LP version)2) Honey, Don't You Want a Man Like Me (Discreet LP version)3) The Illinois Enema Bandit (Discreet LP version)4) Filthy Habits (Discreet LP version)5) Flambe (Discreet LP version)6) Spider of Destiny (Discreet LP version)7) Peaches en Regalia (live, Saturday Night Live, 12/11/76)8) Baby Snakes Trailer (audio track - Baby Snakes DVD)9) Broken Hearts are for Assholes (live, Baby Snakes DVD)10) Camarillo Brillo (live, Baby Snakes DVD)11) Muffin Man (live, Baby Snakes DVD)12) San Ber'Dino (live, Baby Snakes DVD)13) Yo Mama (live, 2/15/78)14) Baby Snakes (live, 2/25/78)15) Watermelon in Easter Hay (live, 2/25/78)CD6 (Total Time: 78:24) FINAL1) Packard Goose (rehearsal, 8/16/78)2) I Have Been in You (live, 9/21/78)3) Flakes (live, 9/21/78)4) Dancin' Fool (live, Saturday Night Live, 10/21/78)5) Ancient Armaments (live, 10/31/78, single version)6) Don't Eat the Yellow Snow (YCDTOSA vol. 1, live, 2/18/79)7) Nanook Rubs It (YCDTOSA vol. 1, live edit, 2/18/79)8) St. Alphonzo's Pancake Breakfast (YCDTOSA vol. 1,
Re: [Zappa-List] MITB Track Listing
Well then while I'm at it I'll ask: 1) What is different about the version of "Hungry Freaks, Daddy" on MITB? 2) What is the original source of MITB? Mr. Skull 26) Sink Trap (acetate) It's worth noting that this is from the 1975 Royce Hall concerts (it's since been released on QuAUDIOPHILiac under the title "Lumpy Gravy") and not from the Lumpy Gravy orchestral recordings at all. 11) Uncle Remus (instrumental version) And that this is from George's Duke's The Aura Will Prevail. 11) Ship Ahoy (live 2/3/76, Osaka, Japan) And it still sort of bothers me that this is on the set as it contains maybe five whole seconds of music not on the officially released recording (whereas the entire guitar solo that precedes it in "Zoot Allures" has never been officially released, and it could have easily gone on this set.) 3) Flakes (live, 9/21/78) And that this is on there instead of "Moe's Vacation" (and it's 9.27.78, btw, not 9.21) 6) Don't Eat the Yellow Snow (YCDTOSA vol. 1, live, 2/18/79)7) Nanook Rubs It (YCDTOSA vol. 1, live edit, 2/18/79)8) St. Alphonzo's Pancake Breakfast (YCDTOSA vol. 1, live, 2/18/79)9) Father O'Blivion (YCDTOSA vol. 1, live, 2/18/79)10) Rollo (YCDTOSA vol. 1, live, 2/18/79) And this whole debacle. 15) For the Young Sophisticate (LP version) And that this is identical to the CD version. 16) Pick Me I'm Clean (LP version) And the only thing that differentiates this from the CD version is the little drum fill edited in at the beginning. While it came from vinyl, it's still the compiler's version and not legitimately "the LP version." Why this and not "Now You See It - Now You Don't" which gets it's ending tramped on on the CD version due to a crossfade? 8) Strictly Genteel (live, 10/31/81) And why this is necessary (great, you edited out the guy screaming "Zappa!" at the end, at the expense of something else that could have gone on the set...) Not that I don't love the entire set as a whole, those are just a few little things that always kinda bugged me... --Milhouse For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] it's real
Zappa and Gilmour together? I love 'em both, but that seems like mixing peppermint and mustard. Great taken alone, but together? can't believe it but I just heard Waters WrightGilmore Mason and...and Zappa...crazyit's realafter all the fakes...not to mention jam outs withFOUR other bands...can't believe it...all praise theInternet None of this was known to the Zappaworld (as far as I know) till today..I guess maybesome may have known...but this has been a LONG timecoming...thanks again to www.dimeadozen.org For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Ripping?
Thank you Jim. I think the term first gained popular usage when mp3 caught on. A music CD (usually factory made) would be inserted and the act of producing mp3 files on the hard drive from it was termed ripping. I guess a new term was necessary in that audio on a music CD is in a format that cant be stored on a hard drive. CDDA or compact digital disc format. So to get the music onto your hard drive it cant be just copied but rather must be changed to a different format. Wav files are almost bit for bit identical to CDDA but the header is a little different on CDDA by design so that it cant be copied so easily. At least thats what they thought back in the early eighties. Mp3 is of course not similar at all and most of the digital information must be discarded when mp3 is created. Flac and shn files still contain all of the data from the original wav file but store it a bit more compactly and can be expanded back into the original wav file. With mp3 you can expand back to wav but you can never get back the information thats been tossed out. Thats why theyre referred to as lossy while wav, flac and shn are considered lossless. Much of the information that gets tossed out in the creation of mp3 isnt even audible however and thats why they can sound as good as the do. Results seem to vary dramatically to my ear depending on what encoder is used. To me LAME makes the very best mp3 and razorlame is a good front end for it. Both are free. Then DVD entered the picture. Commercially produced DVD is encrypted and so cant be directly copied to the hard drive or disc ether. So ripping software for DVD became available in short order. It decrypts the files so that they can be copied. Unencrypted DVDs like we share here can be directly copied to the hard drive. Also if you do a direct disc copy of a CD it doesnt have to be ripped to another format but can directly copy the CDDA files. The belief that EAC (exact audio copy) software is superior at reading the disc however has lead to the practice of ripping an audio CD into wav files first and then authoring a new CD from them rather than doing a disc copy. Everything Ive read as well as my own experiences seems to back up this belief. Ideally a software could read the disc like EAC but create a disc image from the data instead of making wav files. That would avoid converting from CDDA to wav and then back to CDDA just to copy a disc. Perhaps EAC will get around to that in the future. Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 9:30 PMTo: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Zappa-List] Ripping? All, What precisely is ripping, as opposed to merely burning and copying? Mr. Skull "Being in politics is like being a football coach; you have to be smart enough to understand the game and dumb enough to think it's important." -Eugene McCarthy, 1968 For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Zappa-List] Ripping?
All, What precisely is ripping, as opposed to merely burning and copying? Mr. Skull "Being in politics is like being a football coach; you have to be smart enough to understand the game and dumb enough to think it's important." -Eugene McCarthy, 1968 For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine order confusion (have a look at this)
If it will eliminate all doubt about who is in what order to receive something and who had it last then I think it's an idea whose time is long over due. Mr. Skull What would you guys think about keeping the list of vine participants on the website? It should eliminate the getting out of order problem. The list of participants would be stationary instead of traveling with each email and running the risk of becoming mangled. We could make a database for each vine. Check out the example I made here. http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/database Play with it. Try adding yourself to the example vine by clicking on add record. Try making an all new example vine by clicking on create table from the main database page the link goes to. Just an idea I was kicking around for a tweak to the system. Check it out and say what you think. To complicated, to hard to get to, you like it or whatever. Jim L For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List]
Jim, Dvd Shrink isn't available at this link for users in the US. Do you happen to know where a copy can be downloaded from for US users? I tried the search suggested at the DVD Shrink site, but they all want personal info and\or to charge your credit card for downloading it. Thanks in advance, Mr. Skull Try ripping it to the hard drive with DVDShrink. Ive found that it sometimes fixes minor glitches as well as being useful to backup the copyrighted stuff. Just do a full backup and it will maintain all the menus and such. Then you can burn with your usual program. If something is drastically wrong with the disc DVDShrink wont be able to rip it however. Free download. http://www.dvdshrink.org/ For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: MITB vine
John, Let me know when you receive it and I'll send you my address as well. Mr. Skull Thanks Conehead. Luis, I'll send you my address offlist. John For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: MITB vine
Dagnabit! False alarm, Mr. Skull.I thought that someone had provided a replacement for this one but I was wrong. John For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Zappa-List] Vine update
Forgot what this vine was called, but here is the status. I had it and is heading to Thierry Barbier. This was the last agreed upon arrangement: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mr. Skull thierry barbier ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Zappa-List] Inadverntly orphaned vine?
I just came across the following discs: The True Story of 200 Motels Video from Hell Uncle Meat What vine was this? Who were these supposed to be sent to next? I apologize for not handling them in a timely fashion, I'm very disorganized, forgetful and in over my head here lately. Thanks, Mr. Skull For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Inadverntly orphaned vine?
I have NTSC discs. I'll send them Mr. Barbier. Mr. Skull I believe this was the NTSC vine I was looking for... I'm pretty sure that Michael split this one in two: a PAL and an NTSC, but I could be wrong (Michael, if you could help clear this up, cool). Here's the lineage I'm aware of: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mr. Skull thierry barbier ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] But it could be thus: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mr. Skull thierry barbier([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]... [EMAIL PROTECTED]... "Richard" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Either way, Mr. Skull, it looks like this one should go to Thierry in France - way down in France. Thanks everyone, for helping set this one straight! Regards, SOFA - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 7:28 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] Inadverntly orphaned vine? I just came across the following discs: The True Story of 200 Motels Video from Hell Uncle Meat What vine was this? Who were these supposed to be sent to next? I apologize for not handling them in a timely fashion, I'm very disorganized, forgetful and in over my head here lately. Thanks, Mr. Skull For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] vines - everyone PLEASE read.
Just for the record. Something of the comments
you've responded to listed with my name below, are in fact either Jim's or
someone else's. Maybe I'm misreading your tone, but I get the feeling of being
singled out here. I may be mistaken.
Point being, I'm not the only one who *clearly*
expressed some feeling of frustration and disappointment over frequent 'vine
failure'. As you pointed out this group belongs to all of us, I reserve the
right from here on in to decline anyone who failed to keep their end of the
bargain on moving a vine along
(AKA "moving the project forward"). I will do this
*ONLY* on vines I start, and it will be done off-list\privately. And with the
condition that once they uphold their commitment, I will gladly add them to the
end of any vine I begin.
That's my "final solution"
Mr. Skull
SOFA came up with this great new system that should make it easy to
track the vines. Seems to me that with a good system like this we could easily
determine who is killing the vines. For any one not familiar with SOFA's vine
method I took the liberty of posting it here for easy access. http://www.regyptionstrut.com/vine.htmJim
L
The system works - when it's employed. It's not universally
employed. With a group like this, with people joining (and leaving) everyday,
you gotta kinda hope that newbies read the FAQ that explains it all.
Unfortunately, not all do - no, no, no, they're much to wise for that; FAQ's
are for dummies... PEUW!
There are some "regulars" that still don't employ the system, ("I
don't need a to read the FAQ; I've been posting for years". Double
PEUW!), so it's not just new members... The biggest problem lately is
members on digest that respond to an "old message", which - in effect - screws
up the proper order of the vine. Hey, when in doubt, visit the yahoo page;
it's the most up-to-date.
This aint rocket science, kids...
(Frankly, I think most are too lazy to bother - but, that's just
me, speaking from experience,)
I had missed the removal of one's own name
aspect of this vine system. But one question: If there are no consequences for
those who might repeatedly "kill" a vine, then what good can it possibly do us
to know who is responsible.
Mr. Skull
"Consequences" require a specific set of "actions" on someone's
part - namely, moi. As sole owner/moderator of the Zappa list, that means I
would have to (unbiasedly) track every vine that occurs here. Since we began
the vine system, posts regarding them has become the major influx of
mail.
I'm sorry, but I simply can't dedicate that much time to the
vines. I still monitor every post made by a new member before it hits the
boards; until a new member's "intent" has been made clear to me, none of you
are bothered by extraneous poot. By doing this, I have eliminated all porn
spam, chain mails, and other self-promotional crap that plagues yahoo groups.
I believe my efforts have made the Zappa-List the friendliest, crap-free group
going at yahoo. And that's as far as I care to take it, on the moderator
end...
I think we know where the vines are and who kills them. The
point is what action can be taken. You have to be seen to be fair, as we all
have life difficulties from time to time.It shouldn't be aproblem
to let the list know your going to cause a delay...unless your pc dies...then
what?
Mr. Skull
Here's the deal: The Zappa-List is your group. I only try
to do what I think is best for the 700+ members we have. If the more active
viners wish to have a greater deal of "control" (read: able to inflict
consequences) of the workings of the group, I'm all for it and I welcome your
private email(s) to that effect. {Don't send no boys, okay? Serious
contributors only, please. And I gotta take a minute to thank JimL for holding
down the fort for me in the past - you ROCK, dude!}
AFA what I recommend in the case of known (or suspected) "vine
killers", if you all know who's killing off vines (Lord knows I have no clue),
then simply move their name to the end of the list, or remove it altogether.
If they respond and bitch, state your case in the most inoffensive manner
possible {remember, personal attacks are simply not tolerated; use the facts
as you see them, and keep your opinion to yourself}, and request an
explanatory response.
Remember, it's your group!
It's unfortunate, but a fact, that some folks are just scum. I'm
one of those that needs to smacked over the head repeatedlywith proof
before I believe it of anyone... It's one of the things that makes me lovable
- that, and my tasteful, maroon hue.
Regards,
SOFA
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Re: [Zappa-List] vines - everyone PLEASE read.
Thank you for that. I actually meant something
else though.
I was meaning to communicate that others besides
myself are expressing some sort of desire to have vines work without some of the
failures we currently experience.
Mr. Skull
I don't think anyone was
pointing to you.I think we know that the 'regulars' are reliable and we
can cut them some slack when they are a little late responding. Its those
where it stops dead are the pointee's...
- Original Message -
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 7:55
PM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] vines -
everyone PLEASE read.
Just for the record. Something of the comments
you've responded to listed with my name below, are in fact either Jim's or
someone else's. Maybe I'm misreading your tone, but I get the feeling of
being singled out here. I may be mistaken.
Point being, I'm not the only one who
*clearly* expressed some feeling of frustration and disappointment over
frequent 'vine failure'. As you pointed out this group belongs to all of us,
I reserve the right from here on in to decline anyone who failed to keep
their end of the bargain on moving a vine along
(AKA "moving the project forward"). I will do
this *ONLY* on vines I start, and it will be done off-list\privately. And
with the condition that once they uphold their commitment, I will gladly add
them to the end of any vine I begin.
That's my "final solution"
Mr. Skull
SOFA came up with this great new system that should make it easy
to track the vines. Seems to me that with a good system like this we could
easily determine who is killing the vines. For any one not familiar with
SOFA's vine method I took the liberty of posting it here for easy access.
http://www.regyptionstrut.com/vine.htmJim
L
The system works - when it's employed. It's not universally
employed. With a group like this, with people joining (and leaving)
everyday, you gotta kinda hope that newbies read the FAQ that explains it
all. Unfortunately, not all do - no, no, no, they're much to wise for
that; FAQ's are for dummies... PEUW!
There are some "regulars" that still don't employ the system,
("I don't need a to read the FAQ; I've been posting for years".
Double PEUW!), so it's not just new members... The biggest problem
lately is members on digest that respond to an "old message", which - in
effect - screws up the proper order of the vine. Hey, when in doubt, visit
the yahoo page; it's the most up-to-date.
This aint rocket science, kids...
(Frankly, I think most are too lazy to bother - but, that's
just me, speaking from experience,)
I had missed the removal of one's own name
aspect of this vine system. But one question: If there are no consequences
for those who might repeatedly "kill" a vine, then what good can it
possibly do us to know who is responsible.
Mr. Skull
"Consequences" require a specific set of "actions" on
someone's part - namely, moi. As sole owner/moderator of the Zappa list,
that means I would have to (unbiasedly) track every vine that occurs here.
Since we began the vine system, posts regarding them has become the major
influx of mail.
I'm sorry, but I simply can't dedicate that much time to the
vines. I still monitor every post made by a new member before it hits the
boards; until a new member's "intent" has been made clear to me, none of
you are bothered by extraneous poot. By doing this, I have eliminated all
porn spam, chain mails, and other self-promotional crap that plagues yahoo
groups. I believe my efforts have made the Zappa-List the friendliest,
crap-free group going at yahoo. And that's as far as I care to take it, on
the moderator end...
I think we know where the vines are and who kills them.
The point is what action can be taken. You have to be seen to be fair, as
we all have life difficulties from time to time.It shouldn't be
aproblem to let the list know your going to cause a delay...unless
your pc dies...then what?
Mr. Skull
Here's the deal: The Zappa-List is your group. I only
try to do what I think is best for the 700+ members we have. If the more
active viners wish to have a greater deal of "control" (read: able to
inflict consequences) of the workings of the group, I'm all for it and I
welcome your private email(s) to that effect. {Don't send no boys,
okay? Serious contributors only, please. And I gotta take a minute to
thank JimL for holding down the fort for me in the past - you ROCK,
dude!}
Re: [Zappa-List] vines - everyone PLEASE read.
If that is the only solution, then I agree, it's doubtful to be a good thing. Nothing worse than an insular elite. Ugh, shudder the thought. Skull of courseI agree that's the main issuethe only guarantee of thatis to make it an exclusive club of known, provenreliable members...I am not sure that's a good thing in many other ways though. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 10:43 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] vines - everyone PLEASE read. Thank you for that. I actually meant something else though. I was meaning to communicate that others besides myself are expressing some sort of desire to have vines work without some of the failures we currently experience. Mr. Skull For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] vines
I've made it a point to let the group know when I have a delay, which is too frequently I'm sorry to say. If my pc dies, I go to the library and use one of their computers to let the group know I'm on a temporary hiatus. Mr. Skull I think we know where the vines are and who kills them. The point is what action can be taken. You have to be seen to be fair, as we all have life difficulties from time to time.It shouldn't be aproblem to let the list know your going to cause a delay...unless your pc dies...then what? For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] vines
Well, then it looks as if delay is not the issue here then. But it sure does suck when you wait so long on a vine that you begin to accept the fact that you might not ever receive it. MITB comes to mind for me on this one. Mr. Skull Personally I dont mind a delay. Especially if the person sends a post to the list explaining it. Its the vines that just stop. I really dont know were all this has happened. Ok I think I know about a couple of recent ones. I just know that out of the several vines Ive started over the last 6 to 12 months only one or two seem to have completed to the point that someone posts a message saying they were last. Ive never even been affected much by diapering vines because I seldom sign up to receive one. More often its just that Ive acquired something that I think is more than worth sharing and so I start one. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] vines
Nope, never have seen the arrival of MITB. Gave up, but thought I'd mention it. Desperation is the mothers of invention. Yeah, wondered about how one diapered a vine... Skull Ho did that one die a premature death as well? Did you ever get it? I restarted it once and it got to at least one or two. Then I remember it got lost in the mail but I thought someone had said they would resend the discs? BTW obvius typo in my previus post (diapering vines) should be disappearing vines. lolJim L Well, then it looks as if delay is not the issue here then. But it sure does suck when you wait so long on a vine that you begin to accept the fact that you might not ever receive it. MITB comes to mind for me on this one. Mr. Skull Personally I dont mind a delay. Especially if the person sends a post to the list explaining it. Its the vines that just stop. I really dont know were all this has happened. Ok I think I know about a couple of recent ones. I just know that out of the several vines Ive started over the last 6 to 12 months only one or two seem to have completed to the point that someone posts a message saying they were last. Ive never even been affected much by diapering vines because I seldom sign up to receive one. More often its just that Ive acquired something that I think is more than worth sharing and so I start one. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Zappa-List] NTSC
What Exactly is NTSC? Thanks, Mr. Skull For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] NTSC
Thank you Cris and Jim L. Short for National Television System Committee. The NTSC is responsible for setting television and video standards in the United States (in Europe and the rest of the world, the dominant television standards are PAL and SECAM). The NTSC standard for television defines a composite video signal with a refresh rate of 60 half-frames (interlaced) per second. Each frame contains 525 lines and can contain 16 million different colors. This has been a public service information email! :o)) Cris Thanks, Mr. SkullFor further Z-related fun, please visithttp://www.thebignote.comorhttp://www.killuglyradio.com, thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to theYahoo! Terms of Service. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] NTSC
So you have some cheepnis? My little cheapy has a three position toggle button on the remote. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] New VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell 200 Motels True Story (3 DVD NTSC)
Thank you sir!
he was right...i found this linage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mr. Skull thierry barbier ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 3:56
AM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] New VO: Uncle
Meat, Video From Hell 200 Motels True Story (3 DVD NTSC)
That makes two of us. In fact, I was second or
third.
Now I'm not at all.
Mr. Skull
Now guys I am really confused: This is what I have
sent.
What do you think is happening?? As of [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was on this Vine.
Where am I???
Help Please
Joe.DP
- Original Message -
From: Joe Della
Posta
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 12:43 PM
Subject: [Zappa-List] New VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell
200 Motels True Story (3 DVD NTSC)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I can't pass on this Vine, so here it goes again with a promise
to pass to the next.
Regards:
Joe.DP
- Original Message -
From:
Richard
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005
7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: New
VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell 200 Motels True Story (3 DVD
NTSC)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Luis Richard Moore UK
hey luis, its my fault most likely..i tried
to find the end of the line and messed up...sorry..
- Original Message -
From:
lusi
tanio
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005
10:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: New
VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell 200 Motels True Story (3 DVD
NTSC)
hummsomehow I disappear from the list. Is there another
branch of this vine? Michael? Sofa?
thanks, LuisRichard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Richard Moore UK
Thanks
- Original Message -
From:
Michael Painter
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 27,
2005 9:12 AM
Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: New
VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell 200 Motels True Story (3 DVD
NTSC)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com,
"larksss2003" [EMAIL PROTECTED]...
wrote: Hi Michael Please,include me in
the vine,I promise to revine,regards,Alexandre.
--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com,
"Michael Painter" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Remember onlist(on the group) replies, not
OFFLIST! for Zappa-List
-- Hi Folks,well sofa has
agreed that I can vine these so here goes...
Michael.
---details
Uncle Meat. ===
Songs include: The Uncle Meat Variations, Dog
Breath, In The Year Of The Plague, Mr.
GreenGenes, Holiday In Berlin Full-Blown, Mother People, I'm
Not Satisfied,Tengo Na Minchia Tanta (Written by
Frank Zappa and Massimo Bassoli)
The was movie started in 67 with the original
Mothers of Invention. Finished in88 or 89 and
released on videotape. The movie has basically
2 parts to it. One is based on the live concert
footage of the Mothers plus a small orchestra in the
London Festival Hall in 68. This footage is based
on the story of
Re: [Zappa-List] New VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell 200 Motels True Story (3 DVD NTSC)
I'm not pointing fingers here... Mr. Skull I found these two totally different linesso, its not all me..it was messed up before I messed it up [EMAIL PROTECTED] mr. Skull thierry barbier ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]... [EMAIL PROTECTED]... [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't pass on this Vine, so here it goes again with a promise to pass to the next. Regards: Joe.DP - Original Message - From: Joe Della Posta To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 12:36 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] New VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell 200 Motels True Story (3 DVD NTSC) Now guys I am really confused: This is what I have sent. What do you think is happening?? As of [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was on this Vine. Where am I??? Help Please Joe.DP - Original Message - From: Joe Della Posta To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 12:43 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] New VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell 200 Motels True Story (3 DVD NTSC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]... [EMAIL PROTECTED]... [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't pass on this Vine, so here it goes again with a promise to pass to the next. Regards: Joe.DP - Original Message - From: Richard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: New VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell 200 Motels True Story (3 DVD NTSC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]... [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Luis Richard Moore UK hey luis, its my fault most likely..i tried to find the end of the line and messed up...sorry.. - Original Message - From: lusi tanio To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: New VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell 200 Motels True Story (3 DVD NTSC) hummsomehow I disappear from the list. Is there another branch of this vine? Michael? Sofa? thanks, LuisRichard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]... [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Richard Moore UK Thanks - Original Message - From: Michael Painter To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 9:12 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: New VO: Uncle Meat, Video From Hell 200 Motels True Story (3 DVD NTSC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]... [EMAIL PROTECTED]... In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "larksss2003" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: Hi Michael Please,include me in the vine,I promise to revine,regards,Alexandre. --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Painter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remember onlist(on the group) replies, not OFFLIST! for Zappa-List -- Hi Folks,well sofa has agreed that I can vine these so here goes... Michael. ---details Uncle Meat. === Songs include: The Uncle Meat Variations, Dog Breath, In The Year Of The Plague, Mr. GreenGenes, Holiday In Berlin Full-Blown, Mother People, I'm Not Satisfied,Tengo Na Minchia Tanta (Written by Frank Zappa and Massimo Bassoli)The was movie started in 67 with the original Mothers of Invention. Finished in88 or 89 and released on videotape. The movie has basically 2 parts to it. One is based on the live concert footage of the Mothers plus a small orchestra in the London Festival Hall in 68. This footage is based on the story of members of the band quitting to
[Zappa-List] Petite Wazoo
Looking to obtain some live recordings of the line-up with Underwood, Thompson, Fowler Duke and Napoleon Murphy Brock. Is there a kind soul out there willing to help a fellow Zappa-phile out? Mr. Skull For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride Family fun Fun apron Outdoor fun YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Nero help needed
Jim, I've got burnatonce on my drive as a result of your having recommending it previously. But I've never been able to get it to work. I'll have to try again, as I've got to get these damn discs burned and on their way. Frustrated, Mr. Skull Icant be of much help as I havent used Nero for some time now. I can offer a free alternative that a lot of folks are using now with no problems. They say its not compatible with all drives but Ive not found anyone yet thats had a problem if they are using 2000 or XP. Heres a little quick start guide with a link for downloading the software. Its called Burnatonce and it uses CDRDAO. If you set it like this it always burns DAO and never creates gaps. http://www.regyptionstrut.com/bao.htm Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:45 PMTo: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Zappa-List] Nero help needed John, Thanks for the help. I did as you suggested, and yet the problem still persists. Mr. Skull Go to My Computer/c drive Documents and settings/your folder which relates to your computer name or user Open folder LOCAL SETTINGS Then Temp Theres where NERO Puts the nero temp files as default in there you will have the full files from the discs you have burned, they should usually delete automatically after a sucessful burn! Delete them John For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Nero help needed
Downloaded the newest version, but it didn't work for me. Bummer. Mr. Skull I cant be of much help as I havent used Nero for some time now. I can offer a free alternative that a lot of folks are using now with no problems. They say its not compatible with all drives but Ive not found anyone yet thats had a problem if they are using 2000 or XP. Heres a little quick start guide with a link for downloading the software. Its called Burnatonce and it uses CDRDAO. If you set it like this it always burns DAO and never creates gaps. http://www.regyptionstrut.com/bao.htm Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:45 PMTo: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Zappa-List] Nero help needed John, Thanks for the help. I did as you suggested, and yet the problem still persists. Mr. Skull Go to My Computer/c drive Documents and settings/your folder which relates to your computer name or user Open folder LOCAL SETTINGS Then Temp Theres where NERO Puts the nero temp files as default in there you will have the full files from the discs you have burned, they should usually delete automatically after a sucessful burn! Delete them John For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Nero, Vines etc
Group, I've decided to go ahead and send the vines on, so as to not inconvenience others and keep them waiting longer than neccesary. I'll sort out my software problems and then try again later. As it stands, I *was* able to copy the Harrisburg, PA, 1970 show discs, which is all I really wanted anyway. Mr. Skull For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Nero help needed
Jim, Thanks for your help. I went to the Nero site and downloaded the available updates. This seems to have rectified the problem. Mr. Skull Ok then perhaps I do know of one that it isnt working for. It is designed for 2000 and or XP. Im starting to wonder if perhaps you have a hardware problem. Ive certainly worn out a few burners in the last few years. Not really worn out as much as they seemed to have circuitry failures. New ones are dirt cheap any more in fact for just a few dollars more a DVD CD combo burner can be had. All this may only be true for desktop models. Before condemning your drive though make sure you have DMA (direct memory access) enabled. This is usually enabled but sometimes gets turned off somehow. This is how you can check and turn it on if its off 1. Right-click My Computer, then click Properties. 2. Click the Hardware tab, then click the Device Manager button. 3. Open the devices under IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers. 4. For the Primary IDE Channel and the Secondary IDE Channel, double-click the device to display its properties. 5. Click the Advanced tab. 6. Ensure that the Current Transfer Mode is DMA or Ultra DMA, not PIO Onlychange it if necessary. 7. Apply the changes and re-start Windows. Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 3:14 PMTo: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Zappa-List] Nero help needed Downloaded the newest version, but it didn't work for me. Bummer. Mr. Skull I cant be of much help as I havent used Nero for some time now. I can offer a free alternative that a lot of folks are using now with no problems. They say its not compatible with all drives but Ive not found anyone yet thats had a problem if they are using 2000 or XP. Heres a little quick start guide with a link for downloading the software. Its called Burnatonce and it uses CDRDAO. If you set it like this it always burns DAO and never creates gaps. http://www.regyptionstrut.com/bao.htm Jim L From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:45 PMTo: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Zappa-List] Nero help needed John, Thanks for the help. I did as you suggested, and yet the problem still persists. Mr. Skull Go to My Computer/c drive Documents and settings/your folder which relates to your computer name or user Open folder LOCAL SETTINGS Then Temp Theres where NERO Puts the nero temp files as default in there you will have the full files from the discs you have burned, they should usually delete automatically after a sucessful burn! Delete them John For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Nero help needed
John, Thanks for the help. I did as you suggested, and yet the problem still persists. Mr. Skull Go to My Computer/c drive Documents and settings/your folder which relates to your computer name or user Open folder LOCAL SETTINGS Then Temp Theres where NERO Puts the nero temp files as default in there you will have the full files from the discs you have burned, they should usually delete automatically after a sucessful burn! Delete them John For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Zappa-List] Nero help needed
I know people are waiting on me for vines. I'm getting stuck thanks to Nero (now that I've gotten it to work again) I've burned two discs ( 1974-10-29, 1 2) and now Nero says there isn't enough room on my drive, and to make sure it is pointing to a folder with 80 MB or more. I've checked, my hard drive has ample room, but just to humor the damn thing, I've cleaned of loads of garbage. Tried again, same story from Nero. Apparently the cache\prefernces folder Nero refers to is not my "C" drive. Tried to find it, no avail. Can any of you out there set me straight? Thanks, Mr. Skull For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Zappa-List] VO - Music is the Best: pruners to our vines
The question I have is how can we prevent this sort of thing from happening again? This same thing happened to me, but unfortunately I was a moron and sent my only copies. Mr. Skull So far no news from Richard Hall... Next week I'm leaving for a 3 weeks' vacation and I'll be back at the end of August. I don't know what to do and I'm asking for an advice: should I a) wait till then and, if thesituation is still the same, make another shipment to the next guy in the list ([EMAIL PROTECTED] - US), or b) do this right now to speed up the whole thing, or c)not give a damn about this? ;-) On July1st I sent to Richard the 8 HP CDs I received, so I'll have to do a copy from my copies - but I think this won't be a big problem. Let me know. thanks mm --No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.6/59 - Release Date: 27/07/2005 For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Zappa-List] Pruners to our vines
I won't speak for anyone else, but I see this as a problem. But I'll leave it to the 'elder' members to suggest solutions... Skull It also happened to the Jazz from hell/GTos vine, effectively killingit I suppose.GabrielOn 7/30/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question I have is how can we prevent this sort of thing from happening again? This same thing happened to me, but unfortunately I was a moron and sent my only copies. Mr. Skull So far no news from Richard Hall... Next week I'm leaving for a 3 weeks' vacation and I'll be back at the end of August. I don't know what to do and I'm asking for an advice: should I a) wait till then and, if the situation is still the same, make another shipment to the next guy in the list ([EMAIL PROTECTED] - US), or b) do this right now to speed up the whole thing, or c) not give a damn about this? ;-) On July 1st I sent to Richard the 8 HP CDs I received, so I'll have to do a copy from my copies - but I think this won't be a big problem. Let me know. thanks mm -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.6/59 - Release Date: 27/07/2005 For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Frank zappa YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Fillmore East 11/?/70 vine. Where it is?
As opposed to your unborn days? It seems we do use a healthy bit of plot thickener round here Skull LOL, it's scandalous eh! In all my born days! I love the confusion on this list, it just cracks me up sometimes.What's best is it remains so friendly, with which it was intended. Unlike some other listsI could mention. It's greatto be on here with you guys! - Original Message - From: Cris Haldenby To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Fillmore East 11/?/70 vine. Where it is? Can I just say that I've been called quite a few things over the the years. But I've never been called Richard or Milhouse. :) Cris On 29 Jul 2005, at 7:54 am, Richard wrote: yeah, and im somebody else. Hope its now as clear as the azure blue sky! lol. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 12:12 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Fillmore East 11/?/70 vine. Where it is? In a message dated 7/28/05 6:03:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So your name is Richard and you go by Milhouse? That makes you RichardMilhouse oh nevermind.So this white Rabbit character needs to send me his address *OFF-LINE*in the next few days. Unless I'm confused. Or more confused than I alreadyamMr. Skull Nope. I'm just Milhouse. Richard is somebody else. And while you're sending the vine to me, when I'm done with it, I'm sending it off to White Rabbitt. Hope that clears things up. --MilhouseFor further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Frank zappa YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Clarity
Yeah, I heard this yesterday. Damn spooky sounding. And it upset my dogs. I can only imagine what it sounded like to them. Skull Now this will cause confusion. This link contains the latest hit sounds from Saturn. Now that is far out! http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/news/press-release-details.cfm?newsID=589 For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Zappa-List] Fillmore 74 vine
These discs finally arrived from Richard Moore. I'll be burning them shortly and sending them on to Milhouse. Mr. Skull For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. SPONSORED LINKS Frank zappa YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Fillmore East 11/?/70 vine. Where it is?
So your name is Richard and you go by Milhouse? That makes you Richard Milhouse oh nevermind. So this white Rabbit character needs to send me his address *OFF-LINE* in the next few days. Unless I'm confused. Or more confused than I already am Mr. Skull In a message dated 7/28/05 3:20:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mr Skull just received it from me and it's going to Milhouse next. Correct. The poster identified as White Rabbitt gets the thang after me. From there, I'm not sure where it goes, but after I get it, it will be further on the move soon enuff. --Milhouse For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] Fillmore East 11/?/70 vine. Where it is?
Okay, so Richard and Milhouse ARE two seperate persons. Man I am confused. Milhouse, didn't you just send me your address recently? My head is spinning SKULL Mr Skull just received it from me and it's going to Milhouse next. I mailed it ages ago, I am beginning to think my mail man auditions the discs before they get loaded onto the plane! - Original Message - From: Guy To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 7:34 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] Fillmore East 11/?/70 vine. Where it is? What the golly garsh darn heck has happened to this vine? Anybody? For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group Zappa-List on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] Fillmore East 11/?/70 vine. Where it is?
I just received it. After I burn a copy I am sending it to Milhouse (I think I'm clear about this now...) So hold tight, don't get yer knickers in a twist... (and whatever happened to Vileness Fats?) Mr. Skull What the golly garsh darn heck has happened to this vine? Anybody? For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO - Music is the Best: INQUIRY
Ahstill ain't seen ityet. (said with red-neck drawl) Mr Skull Where are we at with this one? I would think it would be getting close. John In a message dated 7/1/2005 4:29:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CDs arrived yesterday from Brazil (thank you, Gabriel!)Just made the shipment to Richard in the US. Should arrive in 10 days ca.marcomat-IT [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - US [EMAIL PROTECTED] - US Luis-AR [EMAIL PROTECTED] John-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mr. Skull [EMAIL PROTECTED] Conehead-BE Arto-IRL [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: 30/06/2005For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Vine Open 1970-11-14? Fillmore East+10-29-74+DENVER 69
This is correct. IT WILL BE GOING TO RICHARD IN THE UK,(he will have by Thursday) I HAVE AMENDED THE ORDER ABOVE AS IT HAS CHANGED ORDER AND HAS COME TO ME VIA BART, SO AFTER RICHARD IT SHOULD BE GOING TO BROTHER SKULL PLEASE CORRECT IF WRONG. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
