Totally true- one can hear Ionisation's influence all over Frank's music and he seemed to unashamedly 'borrow' from Igor's Rites Of Spring. Have to admit I am partial to Frank's Burnt Weenie Sandwich/ Uncle Meat era. I picked up an interesting disc from Half-Price Books called Picantique. Definately recommend it if you haven't heard it. I disposed of my vinyl years ago, but I seem to remember Ameriques featuring the horns- the composition was written to express Varese' first impressions of America as an immigrant. Poeme is electronic in origin. Am waiting as we communicate for my latest shipment of CDs from Overstock.com. One of them is Varese with Americques on it. I noticed a few days ago that they added another Varese featuring more of the compositions we have discussed. Need to get ready for work. Just finished my vacation and have been experiencing some motivational issues this morning. I was self employed from 1982 thru Jan. 2005. Sometimes I find it a little much working for 'the man'. Gotta go earn more CD $$$. --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I hear the Varese influence on Frank in his use of percussion > and atonal use of instruments. But Frank wore his influences on his sleeve when it comes to Varese and Stravinsky both. > > Is Poeme Electronique the one with the firehorns in it? > Another interesting work by Varese- Poeme Electronique- modified > taped and electronic effects created for a World's Fair exhibit I > believe. Perhaps a clue to Zappa's fascination with taped tidbits > punctuating his comedy music. > My original exposure to Varese (via Zappa referral) was on vinyl- > Robert Craft conducting. > BTW, there are two versions of Density 21.5- 21.5 pertaining to the > density of platinum. Varese composed the piece for the inaugural > presentation of the platinum flute. There is a detailed analysis of > the composition found on Wikipedia- look it up as Density 21.5. > --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, <mr_and_mrs_skull@> wrote: > > > > Actually my copy of Ionisation includes Octandre and Density (I > seem to recall it listed as "Densities" but could be mistaken). But > I've never heard Ameriques. I'll take a look at Overstock and check > the prices. Thanks for the tip. > > Overstock.Com has two Edgar Varese recordings, both featuring > > Ionisation and Deserts. If you aren't familiar with Ameriques, I > would > > highly recommend it- a gargantuan wall of 20th century symphonic > > sound. One of the recordings features Density 21.5, a > magnificnet > > flute solo, very fluidic modern melodies. > > > > --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, <mr_and_mrs_skull@> wrote: > > > > > > "Question 4- any Varese fan's out there?" > > > > > > Yes. Have Ionisation and Deserts. Need to get them on Cd > though. My > > turntable is a thing of the past. Someone needs to a complete > Varese > > box set. > > > > > > Mr. Skull > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For further Z-related fun, please visit > http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank > you. > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Personals Fun family vacation Fun ride > > Family fun Fun christmas gift Fun apron > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > ----------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > a.. Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms > of Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > ----------- > > > > > > > > > > For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- >
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