at first i was totaly put off that this list was allowing the postings of zappa bootlegs for sale. i so wanted to write a scathing letter, but had a houseguest last night, and the opportunity never really presented itself. i mean, thieving fucks like this guy are the reason that zappa never considered taping of his shows to be a positive thing: he knew shiftless and shameless people like this asshole would be ripping him off, directly. this music is no ones to make a profit from, except the ZFT. PERIOD much to my surprise and dismay, when i signed on this morning, there were several people willing to take him up on the offer to rip off zappas music, and validate franks point that he was alweays getting ripped off
of course i am talking about this: > fantasiafreek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]@ripOff.sleaze> wrote: > > Zappa/MOI 14 Hour Video Collection $49.95! > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:29:38 -0700 > From: tread brinkley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re:Zappa-Mothers 14 Hour Video Collection $49.95! > as i see no reason to continue advertising this guys post, i'll snip it there.. i was however heartened to see a few posts that echoed my sentiment: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SNIP<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > hello, just want to register my STRONG OBJECTION to this attempt at crass commerce. > NICE PEOPLE Trade this stuff, not sell it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>end snip<<<<<<<<< i'm sure some nice people hooked this thief up to begin with. too bad thier love of music was twisted to help line this guys pockets. then SOFA posted: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>snip<<<<<<<<<< > I concur here... > Please folks, trading only. Selling of items purchased by you that would be > considered 'factory', or professionally produced is one thing. Making your own > massed produced copies of said stuff and selling it here is a no-no. A first > offense is merely offensive. A second is grounds for expulsion. > Thank you for understanding our "vibe". > SOFA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>end sofas post<<<<<<<<<<<<<< and what is the very next post? > Message: 11 > Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:42:52 -0000 > From: "fantasiafreek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]@scumbag.sleaze> > Subject: Re:Zappa-Mothers 14 Hour Video Collection $49.95! > > yea I hear ya. I will not repost this sale in the future. >>>>>edit out some BS, and then goes on<<<< I know it's a no no to attempt to sell on lists but anyway I have > 7 of these sets ready to ship ASAP. I did spend a lot of time on some of the edits I > did myself and many videos as raw mpeg-1 files had to be re-encoded aprox 6 hours > per for every 60 min to convert them to dat VCD format. I use TDK CD-Rs. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>end snip<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ok, so he sees strong objection as well as a warning from the list owner (i think? Sofa?) not to do it again, OR HE"S GONE. what is his reply? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reply snippet<<<<<<<< """" I know it's a no no to attempt to sell on lists but anyway I have > 7 of these sets ready to ship ASAP """" >>>>>>>>>>>>>end snip <<<<<<<< please note the quotation marks. ok, he said flat out that HE KNOWS its not right, selling boots, BUT still goes on and trys AGAIN to sell these, saying he has 7 sets ready to ship out ASAP. . wow, a half dozen TDK CDR's... $50. what a sweetheart, spreading his love of the music, giving so generously back to the community with no thoughts about his own well being. is this thief still on this list? people:: PLEASE do not support this sleazebag, or anyone like him. these things will circulate, in due time, believe it. also, does anyone know his name? i'd like to be able to post his name and any other info to a bunch of other lists that would be friendly to zappa fans and open to the principles of trading music freely. make people aware that the music they so freely shared with him, or would share with him is now being sold on the very lists that this troller has gotten it from. and i'm not sorry for the strong descriptives used for this guy. they are accurate, and a spade is a spade. its people like this asshole that keep others from sharing, fear that thier generosity will be abused, afraid thier efforts in sharing beloved music go towards something they believe strongly against. i know i'll be rethinking my membership if this shit is considered cool with some mike ahern ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/jGKolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
