[Zeitgeist] [Bug 602211] Re: Monitoring for new files
If you have issues with libtaskview, please contact me. I'm reworking some bits to provide some information, which is essential for zeitgeist: You can find the improved D-Bus API here: http://github.com/ssickert/TaskView/blob/master/spec/Generic.xml http://github.com/ssickert/TaskView/blob/master/spec/IO.xml -- Monitoring for new files https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/602211 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Confirmed Status in Zeitgeist Datahub: Incomplete Bug description: I was thinking on how tracker monitors new files to index. Turns out they monitor directories using inotify. Recurse XDG dirs and single iterate $HOME Does this make sense to us? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 602211] Re: Monitoring for new files
I changed it to Confirmed. We still have no solution or ideas how we want to solve the issue. We only know how we don't want to solve it. ** Changed in: zeitgeist Status: Triaged = Confirmed -- Monitoring for new files https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/602211 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Confirmed Status in Zeitgeist Datahub: Incomplete Bug description: I was thinking on how tracker monitors new files to index. Turns out they monitor directories using inotify. Recurse XDG dirs and single iterate $HOME Does this make sense to us? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 602211] Re: Monitoring for new files
Marking as Triaged instead of Invalid. As far as I know; it's not that we don't want to have a solution here, it's just that with the current software platform (from kernel, libs, to Python) it's simply not feasible to do in general. I will not be ready to accept anything that has even the *slightest* chance of bogging down you system by thrashing the disk. - So if anyone intents to have a stab at this, please do discuss the ideas here before wasting lot of time :-) ** Changed in: zeitgeist Status: Invalid = Triaged -- Monitoring for new files https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/602211 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Triaged Status in Zeitgeist Datahub: Incomplete Bug description: I was thinking on how tracker monitors new files to index. Turns out they monitor directories using inotify. Recurse XDG dirs and single iterate $HOME Does this make sense to us? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 602211] Re: Monitoring for new files
Just wanted to know that if this bug is Invalid, then why it has been assigned a Milestone. You people still want to work on it in future? -- Monitoring for new files https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/602211 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Invalid Status in Zeitgeist Datahub: Incomplete Bug description: I was thinking on how tracker monitors new files to index. Turns out they monitor directories using inotify. Recurse XDG dirs and single iterate $HOME Does this make sense to us? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 602211] Re: Monitoring for new files
The more I think about it, the more I see this bug has no place here. I agree with Markus now that the bug should be if handled then by the Zeitgeist Datahub, or Nautilus or so sending us the info directly. Thus I am marking it as invalid. ** Changed in: zeitgeist Status: New = Invalid ** Changed in: zeitgeist-datahub Status: New = Incomplete -- Monitoring for new files https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/602211 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Invalid Status in Zeitgeist Datahub: Incomplete Bug description: I was thinking on how tracker monitors new files to index. Turns out they monitor directories using inotify. Recurse XDG dirs and single iterate $HOME Does this make sense to us? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 602211] Re: Monitoring for new files
** Changed in: zeitgeist Milestone: None = 0.7 -- Monitoring for new files https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/602211 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: New Status in Zeitgeist Datahub: New Bug description: I was thinking on how tracker monitors new files to index. Turns out they monitor directories using inotify. Recurse XDG dirs and single iterate $HOME Does this make sense to us? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 602211] Re: Monitoring for new files
Guys http://ssickert.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/taskview-status-update/ So its out and the API seems to stand... Now: 1) We can create and extension that communicates with taskview to detect copy/paste and some create 2) We use http://github.com/ssickert/nautilus-taskview and modify it for our own good. I don't want to appear like an asshole but if taskview is not adopted by gnome properly i intend to use the code from my send solution... -- Monitoring for new files https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/602211 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: New Status in Zeitgeist Datahub: New Bug description: I was thinking on how tracker monitors new files to index. Turns out they monitor directories using inotify. Recurse XDG dirs and single iterate $HOME Does this make sense to us? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 602211] Re: Monitoring for new files
Markus All Tracker does is use inotify on the xdg directories recursively as i said. So I agree half way with you here. We can write a dataprovider with the new datahub that montiors those directories and send us the events from there :) No need to depend on Tracker. And it is an easy hack... What do you think? ** Changed in: zeitgeist Importance: Undecided = Wishlist ** Changed in: zeitgeist Assignee: (unassigned) = Michal Hruby (mhr3) ** Changed in: zeitgeist Status: New = Opinion ** Changed in: zeitgeist Status: Opinion = New -- Monitoring for new files https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/602211 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: New Bug description: I was thinking on how tracker monitors new files to index. Turns out they monitor directories using inotify. Recurse XDG dirs and single iterate $HOME Does this make sense to us? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 602211] Re: Monitoring for new files
** Also affects: zeitgeist-datahub Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Monitoring for new files https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/602211 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: New Status in Zeitgeist Datahub: New Bug description: I was thinking on how tracker monitors new files to index. Turns out they monitor directories using inotify. Recurse XDG dirs and single iterate $HOME Does this make sense to us? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 602211] Re: Monitoring for new files
Seif, what makes you believe Tracker doesn't have issues? I can tell you for sure that they poured a LOT of development effort into making file monitoring as light as possible. It wont work well if you don't really take care in how you set all the monitors up. -- Monitoring for new files https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/602211 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: New Status in Zeitgeist Datahub: New Bug description: I was thinking on how tracker monitors new files to index. Turns out they monitor directories using inotify. Recurse XDG dirs and single iterate $HOME Does this make sense to us? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 602211] Re: Monitoring for new files
I also don't think this is a good approach, for one the notifications often fire very soon - it might not even be possible to get mimetype of the file (not to mention .part-type files), and I'm not so sure the API enables you to determine that an operation is a move/copy. You'd probably just see a new file somewhere and a while later another file disappearing. IMO it'd be better to wait for this year's TaskView API to mature, and we'd just write a data provider which will use its DBus service. -- Monitoring for new files https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/602211 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: New Status in Zeitgeist Datahub: New Bug description: I was thinking on how tracker monitors new files to index. Turns out they monitor directories using inotify. Recurse XDG dirs and single iterate $HOME Does this make sense to us? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 602211] Re: Monitoring for new files
Yeah I would say the best solution is to wait for TaksView On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Michal Hruby michal@gmail.com wrote: I also don't think this is a good approach, for one the notifications often fire very soon - it might not even be possible to get mimetype of the file (not to mention .part-type files), and I'm not so sure the API enables you to determine that an operation is a move/copy. You'd probably just see a new file somewhere and a while later another file disappearing. IMO it'd be better to wait for this year's TaskView API to mature, and we'd just write a data provider which will use its DBus service. -- Monitoring for new files https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/602211 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: New Status in Zeitgeist Datahub: New Bug description: I was thinking on how tracker monitors new files to index. Turns out they monitor directories using inotify. Recurse XDG dirs and single iterate $HOME Does this make sense to us? To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/zeitgeist/+bug/602211/+subscribe -- This is me doing some advertisement for my blog http://seilo.geekyogre.com -- Monitoring for new files https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/602211 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: New Status in Zeitgeist Datahub: New Bug description: I was thinking on how tracker monitors new files to index. Turns out they monitor directories using inotify. Recurse XDG dirs and single iterate $HOME Does this make sense to us? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 602211] Re: Monitoring for new files
AFAIK tracker just monitors the xdg directories recursivly and the home directory. Maybe an extension could do that for us -- Monitoring for new files https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/602211 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: New Bug description: I was thinking on how tracker monitors new files to index. Turns out they monitor directories using inotify. Recurse XDG dirs and single iterate $HOME Does this make sense to us? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 602211] Re: Monitoring for new files
Inotify still sucks rest assured :-) A watch on a dir will only tell us when some unspecified thing happens to some unspecified file in that directory. We could install monitors directly on the last N (fx. 100) actual file inodes perhaps, but I am reluctant to do that - what happens when we aren't running? Do you wanna stat() all the last N files on startup (ek!)? In any case this could be done entirely in an extension. As I said before I think FANotify and/or btrfs is our only hope here - or actually using Tracker directly to monitor these events. Tracker is probably the most advanced file monitor out there these days. -- Monitoring for new files https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/602211 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: New Bug description: I was thinking on how tracker monitors new files to index. Turns out they monitor directories using inotify. Recurse XDG dirs and single iterate $HOME Does this make sense to us? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 602211] Re: Monitoring for new files
Seif: Quoting myself: In any case this could be done entirely in an extension - so no new depency unless we want it in the main source tree. Can you explain 2) - I can't see why this need be the case... -- Monitoring for new files https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/602211 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: New Bug description: I was thinking on how tracker monitors new files to index. Turns out they monitor directories using inotify. Recurse XDG dirs and single iterate $HOME Does this make sense to us? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 602211] Re: Monitoring for new files
Sorry did not see that :) On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen mikkel.kamst...@gmail.com wrote: Seif: Quoting myself: In any case this could be done entirely in an extension - so no new depency unless we want it in the main source tree. Can you explain 2) - I can't see why this need be the case... -- Monitoring for new files https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/602211 You received this bug notification because you are a direct suSbscriber of the bug. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: New Bug description: I was thinking on how tracker monitors new files to index. Turns out they monitor directories using inotify. Recurse XDG dirs and single iterate $HOME Does this make sense to us? To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/zeitgeist/+bug/602211/+subscribe -- This is me doing some advertisement for my blog http://seilo.geekyogre.com -- Monitoring for new files https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/602211 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: New Bug description: I was thinking on how tracker monitors new files to index. Turns out they monitor directories using inotify. Recurse XDG dirs and single iterate $HOME Does this make sense to us? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 602211] Re: Monitoring for new files
2010/7/7 Seif Lotfy 602...@bugs.launchpad.net: we will be able to track move/copy/ delete :) OK, that'd be nice. My impression is that inotify sucks, though, or has this changed? -- Monitoring for new files https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/602211 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Zeitgeist Framework Team, which is subscribed to Zeitgeist Framework. Status in Zeitgeist Framework: New Bug description: I was thinking on how tracker monitors new files to index. Turns out they monitor directories using inotify. Recurse XDG dirs and single iterate $HOME Does this make sense to us? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist Post to : zeitgeist@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
