[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Fix Released
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Fix Released
Status in Unity 2D:
Fix Released
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
(See also bug 897393, about warning users that the search doesn't
search all files.)
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
Jakob
There is a trade-off between 'locate' and 'tracker'.
locate:
+ will actually find more files than other solutions, including files not in
your home directory (and not owned by you)
- Issue with encrypted home directory (?)
- relies on a daemon which by default runs just once a day (though you could
tweak this up yourself if needed)
- searching can be slower
tracker:
- will only find files in directories that it watches (a subset of places)
- some worry about the background performance penalty running tracker imposes
++ can search on both filenames, their metadata content, and their real text
content
Its that last ++ that is so attractive to me. I did actually get the prototype
tracker lens of #71 compiled and running in 12.04 (does need mods to work with
latest Unity API) and it works reasonably well.
Unfortunately I don't have the time myself to get it properly working
and release worthy, but if someone could be persuaded to at least polish
the current code it could then be installed along with Tracker for users
who want it.
The next step would then be to write a combo tracker/zeitgeist lens that
combines the search power of tracker with the relevancy of zeitgeist.
Such a beast should be possible, and for those users who like to install
Tracker would give them a top class search on their tracker-indexed
directories.
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Fix Released
Status in Unity 2D:
Fix Released
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
(See also bug 897393, about warning users that the search doesn't
search all files.)
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
Will tracker be used instead of locate in future? I'd need it, too,
according to comment #72.
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Fix Released
Status in Unity 2D:
Fix Released
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
(See also bug 897393, about warning users that the search doesn't
search all files.)
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
** Branch linked: lp:~ubuntu-desktop/unity-lens-files/ubuntu
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Fix Released
Status in Unity 2D:
Fix Released
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
(See also bug 897393, about warning users that the search doesn't
search all files.)
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
This bug was fixed in the package unity-lens-files - 5.6.0-0ubuntu1
---
unity-lens-files (5.6.0-0ubuntu1) precise; urgency=low
* New upstream release.
- Content of hidden folders shown in unity-lens-files (LP: #878052)
- not all files show up in files-place (LP: #646724)
-- Didier Roche didro...@ubuntu.com Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:04:25 +0100
** Changed in: unity-lens-files (Ubuntu)
Status: Triaged = Fix Released
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Fix Released
Status in Unity 2D:
Fix Released
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
(See also bug 897393, about warning users that the search doesn't
search all files.)
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
@Raffaele @Mikkel: Someone already has - see
http://hoheinzollern.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/unity-tracker-lens/
Oh for this to be released and integrated!
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
(See also bug 897393, about warning users that the search doesn't
search all files.)
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
Excuse me for not reading all the discussion up there..
From the first time i used the dash, i found it extremely handy and
useful; but for what are my necessities zeigeist's way to search files
is not suited for me, so that i'm only using tracker.
So I ask: can you integrate tracker, obviously as an option and not as
default, with the dash search lens?
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
(See also bug 897393, about warning users that the search doesn't
search all files.)
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
** Changed in: unity
Importance: High = Medium
** Changed in: unity-2d
Importance: Undecided = Medium
** Changed in: unity-lens-files
Importance: High = Medium
** Changed in: unity-lens-files (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = Medium
** Changed in: unity-place-files (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = Medium
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
(See also bug 897393, about warning users that the search doesn't
search all files.)
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
reducing the importance of the bug does not make it less annoying.
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
(See also bug 897393, about warning users that the search doesn't
search all files.)
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
But does make it less likely to be fixed.
2012/2/13 AndreK andre.kjellst...@gmail.com
reducing the importance of the bug does not make it less annoying.
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
(See also bug 897393, about warning users that the search doesn't
search all files.)
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
(See also bug 897393, about warning users that the search doesn't
search all files.)
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
and if you have file like gwibber_multiple.png, you can search it like
.png or gwibber... but if I enter multiple, I get no result
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
(See also bug 897393, about warning users that the search doesn't
search all files.)
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
** Description changed:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably because
openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
+
+ (See also bug 897393, about warning users that the search doesn't search
+ all files.)
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
(See also bug 897393, about warning users that the search doesn't
search all files.)
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
Re #53, I have compiled from source the a-l-m and tried the 'retrieve
from past' feature.
Unfortunately no matter what I do it says '0 events inserted', and no
extra files then seem to be visible.
I then tried the 'history.py' script that Seif kindly referenced on a
blog post of his a while back, which has the same basic crawler code but
packaged to be run on a directory of the users choice from the command
line. This does insert a number of events (almost as many events as
there are files in the directory concerned) - but then nothing can seem
to be able to find them: neither Unity Dash of gaj display them.
So although there is now crawler code out there in the wild, it doesn't
seem to be helping for some reason.
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Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
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Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
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Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
Hacked a bit more ...
The 'crawler' code in a-l-m has a bug comparing a timestamp in the form
of a string with another in the form of a float. Thats why it always
inserts 0 events (timestamp test always fails). It also has a potential
divide by zero bug if there are zero 'valid_uris'.
Correcting those will make it insert events based on the files mtime.
However they still don't show up in gaj or dash.
Watching the zeitgeist-daemon running in a terminal one can see the
events being inserted, but still no sign of them showing up in any
queries.
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Title:
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Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
@Seif, re comment #53: Any estimate when this will land in a release
and/or PPA?
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
I think the dash is revolutionary compared to the old way of finding
files and applications. It presents the user with a much simpler and
more intuitive way to get to what they're looking for. But it's useless
to me if I can't really use it to find stuff, or if I can only find a
small subset of my home content. Right now it's really nothing more than
a novelty, and not very useful for files and folders. I hope that
changes in the near future. IMHO, the concept is so far ahead of what
MAC and Windows currently offer. It's really unity's biggest selling
point., but it has to actually work.
The solution is really quite simple, if you can take your dev hat off
for a second and see it from a user's standpoint. Show recent files and
folders first, with a button to press to do a deeper search. The button
needs to be obvious and visible, not hidden away on the filter results
menu. In fact, it could be a few buttons, e.g. one week, one month, 6
months, one year, show all. Much like a browser history. You could put
them all in a drop down menu.
You could wait to implement everything through Zeitgeist, but why not
offer a temporary fix using Linux's built in search functions. Use
locate first, and then keep going with find. If locate finds what the
user's looking for, the search stops when they click on it. That way,
potential users won't just dismiss Unity as beta software and go
elsewhere. They may not be willing to give it another try for 12.04.
Especially after they spend 1-2k on a Macbook. I have several potential
users lined up, but I'm hesitant because of stuff like this. The idea is
to wow them with how convenient and intuitive it is, rather than to
disappoint and frustrate.
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Title:
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Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
I never understood why the file lens is depending on zeitgeist logs.
When I search for files, I usually want to search them all, not just my
recent files.
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Title:
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Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
On Oct 16, 2011 4:35 PM, Bernhard 646...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
I never understood why the file lens is depending on zeitgeist logs.
When I search for files, I usually want to search them all, not just my
recent files.
As per you how shall it be done? I know the present way has shortcomings.
Please provide a solution if available. It will be surely implemented
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Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
The program locate/slocate keeps a database of all files so that
searching is quick, for example.
2011/10/16 Manish Sinha (मनीष सिन्हा manishsi...@ubuntu.com:
On Oct 16, 2011 4:35 PM, Bernhard 646...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
I never understood why the file lens is depending on zeitgeist logs.
When I search for files, I usually want to search them all, not just my
recent files.
As per you how shall it be done? I know the present way has shortcomings.
Please provide a solution if available. It will be surely implemented
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Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
When I search for music in 11.10 using the Music-lens, it finds only
recently played files and not even every file of it. Therefore, this bug
is still present.
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Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
** Changed in: unity-lens-files (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Triaged
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Status in Unity:
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Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-lens-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
To check the history, you can install activity-log-manager from the PPA
ppa:zeitgeist/ppa
https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist/+archive/ppa
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Status in Unity:
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Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
Seif, what happened to the dig up the past button you mentioned
further up? Is this coming? I remember seeing a mock-up screenshot
somewhere, but I don't have it in activity-log-manager 0.8.0 from the
zeitgeist ppa.
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Status in Unity:
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Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
You can get it from lp:activity-log-manager (trunk)
it works like charm here. Can you test it?
make sure you backup your zeitgeist directory cp ~/.local/share/zeitgeist
~/.local/share/zeitgeist-backup
give us feedback on #zeitgeist so we can finish this.
Cheers
Seif
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Christoph Buchner
646...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
Seif, what happened to the dig up the past button you mentioned
further up? Is this coming? I remember seeing a mock-up screenshot
somewhere, but I don't have it in activity-log-manager 0.8.0 from the
zeitgeist ppa.
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Title:
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Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
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Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
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Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
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Status in Unity:
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Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Lens:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
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Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
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Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
@Krister: It's not built-in, but you could create your own hotkey to
search folders: http://askubuntu.com/questions/49133/are-there-any-
hotkeys-in-dash-for-choosing-among-search-term-matches/50113#50113
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Status in Unity:
Triaged
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Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
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Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
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Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
Some files opened from that folder and below do show up. It is the
project folder itself that cannot be retrieved through the file lens. In
some cases, there is a need to organize related files in folders. Easy
access to the folder would then be a benefit. The Files Folders lens
could be very useful to easily retrieve folder just by typing part of
the name. Working on different project, it is not always practical to
remember the exact name of a document (e.g. meeting reports), so one
wants to see the folder.
Another issue with how things currently work. There is a subfolder with
pictures. Once you've been looking at the pictures, the search term for
the folder causes the lens to be flooded with these pictures. Retrieval
of e.g. word processing documents using the folder name as search term
then becomes very cumbersome.
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Status in Unity Files Place:
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Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
access to the folder would then be a benefit. The Files Folders lens
could be very useful to easily retrieve folder just by typing part of
the name.
Yes! Why isn't there a hotkey to search only folders...
I want to do this every day.
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Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
There is more going on than the file lens only seeing recent files. I
have a project folder 6 levels deep under / which I use regularly, and
the folder itself *never* showed up in the files lens. To me, the file
lens is completely useless in its current state.
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The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
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However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
Which app do u use to edit the files in that folder ?
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 6:58 PM, vanadium 646...@bugs.launchpad.net
wrote:
There is more going on than the file lens only seeing recent files. I
have a project folder 6 levels deep under / which I use regularly, and
the folder itself *never* showed up in the files lens. To me, the file
lens is completely useless in its current state.
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Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Status in Unity:
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Status in Unity 2D:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Invalid
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
** Changed in: unity-2d
Status: New = Triaged
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Status in Unity Files Place:
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Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
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Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
So, will you put this into activity-log-manager, Seif?
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Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
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Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
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Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
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Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
Very good idea. Maybe a button saying dig up the past could be a good
start :)
Thanks for the idea
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Christoph Buchner
646...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
So, will you put this into activity-log-manager, Seif?
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Status in Unity:
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Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
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Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
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Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
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Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
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Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
The reason that we are not using tools like Tracker and Beagle is that
we didn't find them reasonable performance-wise, nor providing the
quality of results, or fine control of queries we wanted. And working
reasonably well is just not good enough in my book.
That said, there's nothing saying we must stick with ZG, it's just that
it is an easy practical solution.
My personal check list for an indexing tool is something like:
a) Doesn't crawl you home dir on login (to install inotify watches or check
for new stuff)
b) High quality query relevancy ranking
c) Able to sort by usage frequency or recency
d) (wishlist: direct access to index api to inspect term stats etc without the
need for DBus roundtrips)
Solving a) requires something like btrfs or fsnotify. To my knowledge
both Tracker and Beagle rely on inotify (possibly indirectly via GIO).
And Tracker fell short on b) + c) + d) last I checked. Solving b), c) ,
and d) seems to inevitably require something like Zeitgeist combined
with Xapian or Lucene (much like we do now :-)).
My currently preferred solution would be to:
i) Extend ZG with a new range of data providers (music, u1, telepathy,
contacts, etc)
ii) Write a Nautilus extension that makes ZG index all files and folders you
ever see in the file browser (this may require some filering logic in order not
to spam your log too badly)
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Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
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However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
The issue is that the current implementation of files and folders is
unacceptable. It is unacceptable that it does not show up the files the
user knows are out there. This effectively breaks the function from the
perspective of the user. Thus, this issue should be corrected with the
highest priority, or the function should be removed if it cannot be
technically implemented in a satisfactory way.
Additional problem: inconsistency. Applications finds all applications
on the computer, and even Applications *not* on the computer. Files and
Folders on the other hand, does not even find several the user's own
files that are on the local computer.
Currently, this functions as an adequate Recent documents tool. Rename
it to Recent documents and the current issue is solved. Then, a Files
and folders lens could be a feature request for unity.
Extending ZG with a new range of data providers does not seem like a
priority right know, except if aims to make sure that at least, a user
can retrieve his files. Let the rest follow once this fundamental flaw
is solved.
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Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
BTW just for you info there is no perfect solution right now. Even Tracker
that crawls your desktop doesn't find anything that is NOT in the
following folders:
- Desktop
- Documents
- Downloads
- Music
- Public
- Pictures Templates
- Videos
While this sounds good alot of files do not reside there. So currently there
is no perfect solution. I am personally working on a hybrid search extension
that allows you to search Tracker + Zeitgeist results. Problem here is the
speed of the search in Tracker do a technical decision as well as the merge
of search results.
I think removing a functionality because its not working properly is a bad
idea. Because it works for the default and normal users. Anyone who uses the
default Ubuntu apps doesnt have problems finding his stuff since once you
touch the file with a standard Ubuntu app it will be covered by Zeitgeist.
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:17 AM, vanadium
646...@bugs.launchpad.netwrote:
The issue is that the current implementation of files and folders is
unacceptable. It is unacceptable that it does not show up the files the
user knows are out there. This effectively breaks the function from the
perspective of the user. Thus, this issue should be corrected with the
highest priority, or the function should be removed if it cannot be
technically implemented in a satisfactory way.
Additional problem: inconsistency. Applications finds all applications
on the computer, and even Applications *not* on the computer. Files and
Folders on the other hand, does not even find several the user's own
files that are on the local computer.
Currently, this functions as an adequate Recent documents tool. Rename
it to Recent documents and the current issue is solved. Then, a Files
and folders lens could be a feature request for unity.
Extending ZG with a new range of data providers does not seem like a
priority right know, except if aims to make sure that at least, a user
can retrieve his files. Let the rest follow once this fundamental flaw
is solved.
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
So, who's up to writing a script that touches each file in a desired
directory? :-P this, as well as my comment #29, would neatly circumvent this
problem, no?
Also, what exactly does touching mean? I can neatly touch all files on my
harddisk if I let baobab (the disk usage analyzer) run over it, but that won't
work, will it? What would the cheapest (performance-wise) application be to do
this?
btw, Seif, are you sure about this location limitation for tracker? It's
been a while since I last used it, but I seem to remember that I could
add user-chosen locations with one visit to preferences, to be indexed
by tracker.
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
It can add a location for you to index but it gets more and more expensive.
Again I touching mean you do something with the file (open/close/modify). I
am working on a hybrid solution as i said. Sadly if you replace Zeitgeist
you also get drawbacks like sorting, constant directory monitoring (very
expensive over time) ans more, less sorting options, slower searching
(sqlite searches are too slow as compared to xapian powered ones).
So the only solution is either to improve the current of find a hybrid. But
replacing with a new solution will break things more...
:(
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Christoph Buchner
646...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
So, who's up to writing a script that touches each file in a desired
directory? :-P this, as well as my comment #29, would neatly circumvent this
problem, no?
Also, what exactly does touching mean? I can neatly touch all files on my
harddisk if I let baobab (the disk usage analyzer) run over it, but that
won't work, will it? What would the cheapest (performance-wise) application
be to do this?
btw, Seif, are you sure about this location limitation for tracker? It's
been a while since I last used it, but I seem to remember that I could
add user-chosen locations with one visit to preferences, to be indexed
by tracker.
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
Just to be clear, I don't want to replace ZG, I didn't even intend to
pull tracker into this (it was just meant as a technology reference, I
shouldn't have mentioned it at all maybe). I'm just looking for a
feasible solution to enable users to be able to find all files they
would most probably search for, using unity. Seeing that this feature is
powered by ZG, I see 3 alternatives:
a) manually open all files, or wait until user has interacted with all
files without her being able to use unity search for said interaction in
the meantime (this is the status now, and I think we all agree it's not
very enticing).
b) Add an option to ZG to point to some directory (e.g. stuff in the users'
extra data partition), whose contents will then be indexed _once_ by ZG.
(Comment #29) This is basically an automated version of a), something like a
fast-forward button.
The state of the index should then be not much worse than after normal usage
for a long time, assuming the user will stumble over most of the files in said
directory during normal usage, over time. Wildcard exceptions could be added to
minimize cruft being added to the db (e.g. *~ files)
Is this a workable idea? If not, why? Are there negative performance impacts on
ZG and/or unity-place-files I don't see?
Pro: tracker or similar technology does not have to be involved.
c) Write a script which, when pointed to a directory, accesses all the
files sequentially, thus adding them to the ZG index as desired by the
user. (comment #31) Admittedly the most hackish workaround, and just
saves you the tedium of opening and closing files for a day or so, to be
able to find them with unity-place-files.
To me at least, b) sounds reasonable. thoughts? alternatives?
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
I am writing a little one time process then crawl your folders and emits an
open event to zeitgeist... :)
Thanks for the idea
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Christoph Buchner
646...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
Just to be clear, I don't want to replace ZG, I didn't even intend to
pull tracker into this (it was just meant as a technology reference, I
shouldn't have mentioned it at all maybe). I'm just looking for a
feasible solution to enable users to be able to find all files they
would most probably search for, using unity. Seeing that this feature is
powered by ZG, I see 3 alternatives:
a) manually open all files, or wait until user has interacted with all
files without her being able to use unity search for said interaction in
the meantime (this is the status now, and I think we all agree it's not
very enticing).
b) Add an option to ZG to point to some directory (e.g. stuff in the users'
extra data partition), whose contents will then be indexed _once_ by ZG.
(Comment #29) This is basically an automated version of a), something like a
fast-forward button.
The state of the index should then be not much worse than after normal
usage for a long time, assuming the user will stumble over most of the files
in said directory during normal usage, over time. Wildcard exceptions could
be added to minimize cruft being added to the db (e.g. *~ files)
Is this a workable idea? If not, why? Are there negative performance
impacts on ZG and/or unity-place-files I don't see?
Pro: tracker or similar technology does not have to be involved.
c) Write a script which, when pointed to a directory, accesses all the
files sequentially, thus adding them to the ZG index as desired by the
user. (comment #31) Admittedly the most hackish workaround, and just
saves you the tedium of opening and closing files for a day or so, to be
able to find them with unity-place-files.
To me at least, b) sounds reasonable. thoughts? alternatives?
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
Awesome! Always happy to help, even if it's just ideas, not code. :-)
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
I am on it already :)
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:57 AM, KarlRelton
karllinuxtest.rel...@ntlworld.com wrote:
Wrt to comment #23, I remember over a year ago in blog-posts or wherever
some communication between Seif of Zeitgeist fame and the Tracker people
about integration/linking together. There was talk of one of them
pushing events to the other.
Certainly if Tracker pushed an event to Zeitgeist everytime it
'discovered' a new file, that would certainly help Zeitgeist to be aware
of alot more of the user's filesystem. If the user is using Tracker,
then resource-wise the user would be no worse off, since Tracker is
already doing the crawling monitoring anyway.
However, of course Tracker itself is configured by the user to NOT crawl
their whole filesystem, so for some users it is arguably still
incomplete (though it would be good enough for my own uses).
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Status in Unity:
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Status in Unity Files Place:
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Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
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Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
There is a difference between Tracker and Zeitgeist:
Tracker indexes stuff in the XDG directories only per default which means it
will only index stuff in Music, Documents, etc...
It will not cover a Directory Foo or anything in it. (it makes optimal for
people with lots of files in the default directories)
Zeitgeist indexes stuff you touch. Which means it does not index stuff you
never interacted with (it makes it optimal for fresh installs). Plus
Zeitgeist allows you to sort through receny, frequency, relevancy and
resemblance to the search string.
I am creating a zeitgeist extension that if Tracker is installed it will ask
Tracker for results and attach them to the zeitgeist results and return them
to the client. We have a working prototype. I am not happy with the solution
but its fast enough...
Stay tuned.
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Christoph Buchner
646...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
wrt to tracker: I actually didn't want to push this discussion towards
tracker/beagle integration itself, I just wanted to point out that
obviously, indexing the relevant files _and their contents_ is already
possible and reasonable performance-wise. Consequently, I don't think it
should be too much of a performance hog to maintain a proper index
(without file's contents, too boot) for search in ZG; that's what the
tracker/beagle people have been doing for years, after all.
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Status in Unity:
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Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
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Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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Ah ic, thanks for the clarification.
Would it be possible to create a feature where one manually points ZG, say, to
a directory (or, e.g. a separate data partition), and ZG would index the given
directory's contents once? Thus, ZG would circumvent the problem of not knowing
about stuff you haven't accessed yet (think fresh install, but separate data
partition), and would be able to deliver more meaningful results more quickly.
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
Is it possible to look to beagle and/or tracker for how to approach this
problem? I've used both in the past, and it worked reasonably well (Impact of
bugs aside). Definitely better than the current situation.
I also agree comment #15 seems to be a very reasonable approach.
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
Post #15 has to be the way to go. It merges the best of flexible, fast,
and thorough, in a user-friendly way.
You cannot prevent people from installing programs that have no
knowledge about ZG. Therefore, you always will need a thorough search.
Having a locate every now and then is not good enough, because the
user could well search for a file before locate has picked it up.
However, if ZG can link into the file system itself (or the file system
can notify ZG of changes), ZG would be instantly aware of any change. Is
that possible?
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
I still find comments #10, #11, and #15 sum up the situ well - if 'the
main way users are expected to search' is purely zeitgeist powered, and
zeitgeist only ever relies on data-providers, then those searches are
going to fall short of users expectations.
So one way or another the user needs access to a directory-crawler, either:
- one which populates the zeitgeist log, or
- the dash/lenses consulting zeitgeist PLUS some other source (tracker,
customer updatedb, or custom-something-else)
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
Yeah. Right now we have dataproviders. The aim is to write more
dataproviders esp the one for which are default on ubuntu. Then those
dataproviders should also be shipped by default. In that case it would
make sense.
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
Sorry for closing it. There is absolutelty no limit to the number of
data-providers we can write.
If you need any specific dataprovider please file a bug against
http://launchpad.net/zeitgeist-dataproviders
I know the status of this is very tricky since this bug does affect
zeitgeist-dataproviders, but we are helpless, we cannot write
dataproviders for every application.
Please comment if you disagree. Will reopen it against zeitgeist-
dataproviders
** Changed in: zeitgeist-dataproviders
Importance: High = Low
** Changed in: zeitgeist-dataproviders
Status: In Progress = Invalid
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
Invalid
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
Maybe i'm wrong but synapse uses zeigeist, right?
And it shows also pdf, doc, .php, html and so on type of files, why we
can't show that type of files in the files lens?
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
In Progress
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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** Changed in: unity-place-files (Ubuntu)
Status: Fix Released = Triaged
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Providers:
In Progress
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Triaged
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
Looks like this bug was mistakenly marked as Fix Released when it's
really not. Probably the action of some rogue script ;-) So reopening.
** Changed in: unity
Status: Fix Released = Triaged
** Changed in: unity-place-files
Status: Fix Released = Triaged
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Title:
not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place:
Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
In Progress
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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** Changed in: unity-place-files
Status: Triaged = Fix Released
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not all files show up in files-place
Status in Unity:
Fix Released
Status in Unity Files Place:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Framework:
Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources:
In Progress
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu:
Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from
within openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably
because openoffice does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will
create documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their
applications), and then expect to be able to search for them in the
Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a
filesystem watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that
zeitgeist is aware of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware
applications.
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** Changed in: unity
Status: Triaged = Fix Released
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Status in Unity: Fix Released
Status in Unity Files Place: Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources: In Progress
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on zeitgeist
(AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from within
openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably because openoffice
does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will create
documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their applications), and
then expect to be able to search for them in the Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a filesystem
watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that zeitgeist is aware
of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
The case I have is that I scp'd a folder of files from another box into
my home directory. Now, I can't seem to figure out any way to reach
those files without the terminal unless I switch to ubuntu-desktop.
That seems really silly! The files are in my home dir -- not hidden off
in the middle of nowhere!
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Status in Unity: Triaged
Status in Unity Files Place: Triaged
Status in Zeitgeist Framework: Fix Released
Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources: In Progress
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on zeitgeist
(AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from within
openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably because openoffice
does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will create
documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their applications), and
then expect to be able to search for them in the Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a filesystem
watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that zeitgeist is aware
of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware applications.
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
On 29/09/10 13:27, KarlRelton wrote:
For the record, what are the 'negative user effects of updatedb and
friends'?
Why is my system like treacle?
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Status in Zeitgeist Data-Sources: In Progress
Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on zeitgeist
(AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from within
openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably because openoffice
does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will create
documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their applications), and
then expect to be able to search for them in the Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a filesystem
watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that zeitgeist is aware
of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
Thanks guys. Alot more of my Openoffice work is now showing up and is
searchable.
Regarding #11, I agree that an occasional bot that snoops through the
data will still be necessary as a catch-all.
For the record, what are the 'negative user effects of updatedb and
friends'?
Two use cases:
1) you can currently select to filter by folders, and then do a search
(on folders). Currently the search will not find many of the folders
that exist because zeitgeist has never seen them.
2) Inevitably people will run commands without dataloggers (e.g. command
line tool, un-packing an archive) which will create legitimate files.
The result of these need to searchable within a reasonable period of
time.
Keep up the good work
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Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on zeitgeist
(AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from within
openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably because openoffice
does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will create
documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their applications), and
then expect to be able to search for them in the Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a filesystem
watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that zeitgeist is aware
of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware applications.
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Re: [Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
RIght, Mikkel, in the latter category we might conceive a smart bot
which nosies through your data very occasionally (and in a way we
believe will minimise the negative user effects of updatedb and friends)
and lets ZG know about interesting stuff.
Mark
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Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on zeitgeist
(AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from within
openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably because openoffice
does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will create
documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their applications), and
then expect to be able to search for them in the Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a filesystem
watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that zeitgeist is aware
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** Also affects: zeitgeist (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu: New
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on zeitgeist
(AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from within
openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably because openoffice
does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will create
documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their applications), and
then expect to be able to search for them in the Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a filesystem
watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that zeitgeist is aware
of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware applications.
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** Branch linked: lp:~zeitgeist-packagers/zeitgeist/ubuntu
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Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on zeitgeist
(AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from within
openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably because openoffice
does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will create
documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their applications), and
then expect to be able to search for them in the Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a filesystem
watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that zeitgeist is aware
of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware applications.
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Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu: New
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu: New
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on zeitgeist
(AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from within
openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably because openoffice
does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will create
documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their applications), and
then expect to be able to search for them in the Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a filesystem
watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that zeitgeist is aware
of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware applications.
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This bug was fixed in the package unity-place-files - 0.5.30-0ubuntu1
---
unity-place-files (0.5.30-0ubuntu1) maverick; urgency=low
* New upstream release:
- take files from OOo with zg (LP: #646724)
- fix Files Folders tooltips not translatable (LP: #644215)
-- Didier Roche didro...@ubuntu.com Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:19:46 +0200
** Changed in: unity-place-files (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Fix Released
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Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu: New
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on zeitgeist
(AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from within
openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably because openoffice
does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will create
documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their applications), and
then expect to be able to search for them in the Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a filesystem
watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that zeitgeist is aware
of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware applications.
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This bug was fixed in the package zeitgeist - 0.5.2-0ubuntu1
---
zeitgeist (0.5.2-0ubuntu1) maverick; urgency=low
* New upstream release:
- Added a workaround so that events concerning OpenOffice.org are logged
correctly (LP: #646724).
-- Didier Roche didro...@ubuntu.com Mon, 27 Sep 2010 16:51:11 +0200
** Changed in: zeitgeist (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Fix Released
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Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on zeitgeist
(AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from within
openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably because openoffice
does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will create
documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their applications), and
then expect to be able to search for them in the Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a filesystem
watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that zeitgeist is aware
of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware applications.
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** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/zeitgeist
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Status in “unity-place-files” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
Status in “zeitgeist” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on zeitgeist
(AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from within
openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably because openoffice
does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will create
documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their applications), and
then expect to be able to search for them in the Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a filesystem
watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that zeitgeist is aware
of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
** Changed in: zeitgeist
Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released
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Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on zeitgeist
(AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from within
openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably because openoffice
does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will create
documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their applications), and
then expect to be able to search for them in the Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a filesystem
watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that zeitgeist is aware
of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware applications.
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** Branch linked: lp:~zeitgeist-packagers/zeitgeist/debian
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Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on zeitgeist
(AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from within
openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably because openoffice
does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will create
documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their applications), and
then expect to be able to search for them in the Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a filesystem
watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that zeitgeist is aware
of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware applications.
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** Branch linked: lp:zeitgeist
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Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on zeitgeist
(AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from within
openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably because openoffice
does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will create
documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their applications), and
then expect to be able to search for them in the Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a filesystem
watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that zeitgeist is aware
of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
I've just pushed a fix for zeitgeist-datahub (so that it'll find
OpenOffice.org files) to lp:zeitgeist. I think Didier Roche wanted to
get an updated Zeitgeist package into Maverick; I'll e-mail him about
including this change.
--
revision rai...@ubuntu.com-20100925104208-8eerljaq7ly6rhw0 (1608)
...
Branch: zeitgeist-trunk
recent.py: add workaround for OpenOffice.org files
Backport the workaround used in the Vala datahub, which special-cases
OpenOffice.org documents so that we can identify their .desktop file by
looking at the mime-type in addition to the executable name.
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Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on zeitgeist
(AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from within
openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably because openoffice
does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will create
documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their applications), and
then expect to be able to search for them in the Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a filesystem
watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that zeitgeist is aware
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** Branch linked: lp:~zeitgeist/zeitgeist/0.5.2
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Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on zeitgeist
(AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from within
openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably because openoffice
does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will create
documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their applications), and
then expect to be able to search for them in the Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a filesystem
watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that zeitgeist is aware
of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
** Also affects: zeitgeist
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Changed in: zeitgeist
Importance: Undecided = Low
** Changed in: zeitgeist
Status: New = Fix Committed
** Changed in: zeitgeist
Milestone: None = 0.5.2
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Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on zeitgeist
(AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from within
openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably because openoffice
does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will create
documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their applications), and
then expect to be able to search for them in the Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a filesystem
watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that zeitgeist is aware
of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
** Also affects: zeitgeist-dataproviders
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Changed in: zeitgeist-dataproviders
Status: New = In Progress
** Changed in: zeitgeist-dataproviders
Importance: Undecided = High
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Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on zeitgeist
(AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from within
openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably because openoffice
does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will create
documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their applications), and
then expect to be able to search for them in the Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a filesystem
watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that zeitgeist is aware
of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware applications.
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[Zeitgeist] [Bug 646724] Re: not all files show up in files-place
As for OpenOffice specifically we can look into replacing the current
zeitgeist-datahub with the vala version with libzeitgeist. I think the
new zeitgeist-datahub covers that.
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Bug description:
The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on zeitgeist
(AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice, I create a new file (or open an existing one) from within
openoffice itself. This file does not show up, presumably because openoffice
does not (yet) push its activity to zeitgeist.
I guess any number of other programs could suffer the same problem.
For the average user, this is surely going to be confusing. They will create
documents via legitimate means ('New ...' buttons in their applications), and
then expect to be able to search for them in the Unity files-place interface.
To avoid this confusion I would guess there really needs to be a filesystem
watcher on the home dir (or key folders within it) so that zeitgeist is aware
of activity caused by non-zeitgeist-aware applications.
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