[zfs-discuss] Sol11 missing snapshot facility

2012-07-05 Thread Carsten John
Hello everybody,


for some reason I can not find the zfs-autosnapshot service facility any more. 
I already reinstalles time-slider, but it refuses to start:


RuntimeError: Error reading SMF schedule instances
Details:
['/usr/bin/svcs', '-H', '-o', 'state', 
'svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:monthly'] failed with exit code 1
svcs: Pattern 'svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:monthly' doesn't match 
any instances



did anybody know a way to get the services back again?


thx


Carsten
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Sol11 missing snapshot facility

2012-07-05 Thread Ian Collins

On 07/ 5/12 06:52 PM, Carsten John wrote:

Hello everybody,


for some reason I can not find the zfs-autosnapshot service facility any more. 
I already reinstalles time-slider, but it refuses to start:


RuntimeError: Error reading SMF schedule instances
Details:
['/usr/bin/svcs', '-H', '-o', 'state', 
'svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:monthly'] failed with exit code 1
svcs: Pattern 'svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:monthly' doesn't match 
any instances


Have you looked with svcs -a?

# svcs -a | grep zfs
disabled   Jul_02   svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:daily
disabled   Jul_02   svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:frequent
disabled   Jul_02   svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:hourly
disabled   Jul_02   svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:monthly
disabled   Jul_02   svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:weekly
disabled   Jul_02   svc:/application/time-slider/plugin:zfs-send

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Sol11 missing snapshot facility

2012-07-05 Thread Carsten John
-Original message-
To: Carsten John cj...@mpi-bremen.de; 
CC: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org; 
From:   Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com
Sent:   Thu 05-07-2012 09:59
Subject:Re: [zfs-discuss] Sol11 missing snapshot facility
 On 07/ 5/12 06:52 PM, Carsten John wrote:
  Hello everybody,
 
 
  for some reason I can not find the zfs-autosnapshot service facility any 
 more. I already reinstalles time-slider, but it refuses to start:
 
 
  RuntimeError: Error reading SMF schedule instances
  Details:
  ['/usr/bin/svcs', '-H', '-o', 'state', 
 'svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:monthly'] failed with exit code 1
  svcs: Pattern 'svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:monthly' doesn't 
 match any instances
 
 Have you looked with svcs -a?
 
 # svcs -a | grep zfs
 disabled   Jul_02   svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:daily
 disabled   Jul_02   svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:frequent
 disabled   Jul_02   svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:hourly
 disabled   Jul_02   svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:monthly
 disabled   Jul_02   svc:/system/filesystem/zfs/auto-snapshot:weekly
 disabled   Jul_02   svc:/application/time-slider/plugin:zfs-send
 
 -- 
 Ian.
 
 


Hi Ian,

yes, I already checked that:

svcs -a | grep zfs
disabled   11:50:39 svc:/application/time-slider/plugin:zfs-send

is the only service I get listed.


thx

Carsten
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Sol11 missing snapshot facility

2012-07-05 Thread Ian Collins

On 07/ 5/12 09:25 PM, Carsten John wrote:


Hi Ian,

yes, I already checked that:

svcs -a | grep zfs
disabled   11:50:39 svc:/application/time-slider/plugin:zfs-send

is the only service I get listed.


Odd.

How did you install?

Is the manifest there 
(/lib/svc/manifest/system/filesystem/auto-snapshot.xml)?


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Re: [zfs-discuss] Sol11 missing snapshot facility

2012-07-05 Thread Carsten John
-Original message-
To: Carsten John cj...@mpi-bremen.de; 
CC: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org; 
From:   Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com
Sent:   Thu 05-07-2012 11:35
Subject:Re: [zfs-discuss] Sol11 missing snapshot facility
 On 07/ 5/12 09:25 PM, Carsten John wrote:
 
  Hi Ian,
 
  yes, I already checked that:
 
  svcs -a | grep zfs
  disabled   11:50:39 svc:/application/time-slider/plugin:zfs-send
 
  is the only service I get listed.
 
 Odd.
 
 How did you install?
 
 Is the manifest there 
 (/lib/svc/manifest/system/filesystem/auto-snapshot.xml)?
 
 -- 
 Ian.
 
 

Hi Ian,

I installed from CD/DVD, but it might have been in a rush, as I needed to 
replace a broken machine as quick as possible.

The manifest is there:


ls /lib/svc/manifest/system/filesystem/
.  .. auto-snapshot.xml  autofs.xml 
local-fs.xml   minimal-fs.xml rmvolmgr.xml   root-fs.xml
ufs-quota.xml  usr-fs.xml



thx


Carsten
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Interaction between ZFS intent log and mmap'd files

2012-07-05 Thread Bob Friesenhahn

On Wed, 4 Jul 2012, Nico Williams wrote:


Oddly enough the manpages at the Open Group don't make this clear.  So
I think it may well be advisable to use msync(3C) before munmap() on
MAP_SHARED mappings.  However, I think all implementors should, and
probably all do (Linux even documents that it does) have an implied
msync(2) when doing a munmap(2).  I really makes no sense at all to
have munmap(2) not imply msync(3C).


As long as the system has a way to track which dirty pages map to 
particular files (Solaris historically does), it should not be 
necessary to synchronize the mapping to the underlying store simply 
due to munmap.  It may be more efficient not do to that.  The same 
pages may be mapped and unmapped many times by applications.  In fact, 
several applications may memory map the same file so they access the 
same pages and it seems wrong to flush to underlying store simply 
because one of the applications no longer references the page.


Since mmap() on zfs breaks the traditional coherent memory/filesystem 
that Solaris enjoyed prior to zfs, it may be that some rules should be 
different when zfs is involved because of its redundant use of memory 
(zfs ARC and VM page).


Bob
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Interaction between ZFS intent log and mmap'd files

2012-07-05 Thread Bob Friesenhahn

On Wed, 4 Jul 2012, Stefan Ring wrote:


I really makes no sense at all to
have munmap(2) not imply msync(3C).


Why not? munmap(2) does basically the equivalent of write(2). In the
case of write, that is: a later read from the same location will see
the written data, unless another write happens in-between. If power


Actually, a write to memory for a memory mapped file is more similar 
to write(2).  If two programs have the same file mapped then the 
effect on the memory they share is instantaneous because it is 
the same physical memory.  A mmapped file becomes shared memory as 
soon as it is mapped at least twice.


It is pretty common for a system of applications to implement shared 
memory via memory mapped files with the mapped memory used for 
read/write.  This is a precursor to POSIX's shm_open(3RT) which 
produces similar functionality without a known file in the filesystem


Bob
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Sol11 missing snapshot facility

2012-07-05 Thread Ian Collins

On 07/ 5/12 11:32 PM, Carsten John wrote:

-Original message-
To: Carsten Johncj...@mpi-bremen.de;
CC: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org;
From:   Ian Collinsi...@ianshome.com
Sent:   Thu 05-07-2012 11:35
Subject:Re: [zfs-discuss] Sol11 missing snapshot facility

On 07/ 5/12 09:25 PM, Carsten John wrote:


Hi Ian,

yes, I already checked that:

svcs -a | grep zfs
disabled   11:50:39 svc:/application/time-slider/plugin:zfs-send

is the only service I get listed.


Odd.

How did you install?

Is the manifest there
(/lib/svc/manifest/system/filesystem/auto-snapshot.xml)?


Hi Ian,

I installed from CD/DVD, but it might have been in a rush, as I needed to 
replace a broken machine as quick as possible.

The manifest is there:


ls /lib/svc/manifest/system/filesystem/
.  .. auto-snapshot.xml  autofs.xml 
local-fs.xml   minimal-fs.xml rmvolmgr.xml   root-fs.xml
ufs-quota.xml  usr-fs.xml



Running svcadm restart manifest-import should load it, or give you 
some idea why it won't load.


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Re: [zfs-discuss] Interaction between ZFS intent log and mmap'd files

2012-07-05 Thread Stefan Ring
 Actually, a write to memory for a memory mapped file is more similar to
 write(2).  If two programs have the same file mapped then the effect on the
 memory they share is instantaneous because it is the same physical memory.
 A mmapped file becomes shared memory as soon as it is mapped at least twice.

True, for some interpretation of instantaneous. It does not
establish a happens-before relationship though, as
store-munmap/mmap-load does.
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