Re: [zfs-discuss] [OpenIndiana-discuss] Question about WD drives with Super Micro systems

2011-08-08 Thread Gregory Youngblood

On Aug 6, 2011, at 9:56 AM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:

>> In my experience, SATA drives behind SAS expanders just don't work.
>> They "fail" in the manner you
>> describe, sooner or later. Use SAS and be happy.
> 
> Funny thing is Hitachi and Seagate drives work stably, whereas WD drives tend 
> to fail rather quickly
> 
> Vennlige hilsener / Best regards

Might this be the SATA drives taking too long to reallocate bad sectors? This 
is a common problem "desktop" drives have, they will stop and basically focus 
on reallocating the bad sector as long as it takes, which causes the raid setup 
to time out the operation and flag the drive as failed. The "enterprise" sata 
drives, typically the same as the high performing desktop drive, only they have 
a short timeout on how long they are allowed to try and reallocate a bad sector 
so they don't hit the failed drive timeout. Some drive firmwares, such as older 
WD blacks if memory serves, had the ability to be forced to behave like the 
enterprise drive, but WD updated the firmware so this is longer possible.

This is why you see SATA drives that typically have almost identical specs, but 
one will be $69 and the other $139 - the former is a "desktop" model while the 
latter is an "enterprise" or "raid" specific model. I believe it's called 
different things by different brands: TLER, ERC, and CCTL (?).

Greg
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Is LSI SAS3081E-R suitable for a ZFS NAS ?

2010-02-02 Thread Gregory Youngblood
The problems you had with the x8dtn, did the affect the x8dtn+-o that you know 
of, or just the -6?

I'm thinking of building a system around this due to the PCI-X so I can use the 
AOC-SAT2-MV8.

Any thoughts?

Thanks.
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