Re: [zfs-discuss] De-duplication in ZFS

2008-01-21 Thread John Martinez

Great question. I've been wondering this myself over the past few  
weeks, as de-dup is becoming more popular a term in our IT department.

-john

On Jan 20, 2008, at 5:40 PM, Narayan Venkat wrote:

 Hi,

 Is de-duplication in ZFS an active project?  If so, can somebody  
 share details about how it's going to be implemented?

 Thanks.

 NV
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Nice chassis for ZFS server

2007-11-30 Thread John Martinez

On Nov 30, 2007, at 2:47 AM, MP wrote:

 I evaled one of these too. Worked great with ZFS.

 Was that with OpenSolaris and was that with or without the Intel  
 RAID controller?
 Cheers.

Solaris 10 8/07, it was with the built-in RAID controller.

-john

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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Features when Using Enterprise Arrays

2007-08-03 Thread John Martinez

On Aug 3, 2007, at 8:29 AM, Tomas Ă–gren wrote:

 On 03 August, 2007 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent me these 1,6K bytes:

 When using an array's RAID schemes, what higher level ZFS
 features are not in play when ZFS Stripes/Concats are used without  
 using
 any ZFS  RaidZ or mirrors?

 I understand from
 http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/faq/#hardwareraid

 that ZFS can only report errors but not correct them. I think ZFS   
 still
 does copy-on-wite, and rollback on error - these are separate from
 RAID.

 Does ZFS round robin the writes across the LUNs when there is no ZFS
  RaidZ or mirrors in play?  Or do all the writes go to the first
 LUN until it is full?

 Round-robin across all vdevs (single disk, mirror, raidz, raidz2) in a
 pool.

That's good to hear.

 What other ZFS features depend on ZFS RAID ?

 Mostly the self-healing stuff.. But if it's not zfs-redundant and a
 device experiences write errors, the machine will currently panic.

Wow, this is certainly worse than the current VxVM/VxFS  
implementation. At least there I get I/O errors and disk groups get  
failed or disabled.

-john
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and powerpath

2007-07-17 Thread John Martinez

On Jul 15, 2007, at 12:59 PM, Peter Tribble wrote:

 On 7/13/07, Torrey McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ZFS needs to use the top level multipath device or bad things will
 probably happen in a failover or in initial zpool creation. Fopr
 example: You'll try to use the device on two paths and cause a lun
 failover to occur.

 Mpxio fixes a lot of these issues. I strongly suggest using mpxio
 instead of powerpath but sometimes its all you can use if the  
 array is
 new and mpxio doesn't have the hooks for it ... yet.

 Hm. This is pretty old stuff, and what is irritating is that I had  
 it all
 working under mpxio. Then I was told the system had to be reconfigured
 to use powerpath, and I've not seen my data since.

 (I follow the logic that it's the datacenter standard, although I'm no
 longer sure I agree with it based on my experience so far; nor does
 my own experience match the alleged technical superiority of
 powerpath over mpxio. Ho hum.)


I would definitely offer to work with your SAN team on getting MPxIO  
certified with your arrays. Where I work, we use Veritas DMP with  
our Hitachi arrays. When we go to ZFS, we will, of course, go to  
MPxIO instead of Hitachi's HDLM. The only difference from this thread  
is that we use Sun-branded Qlogic HBAs instead of Emulex on both our  
SPARC and x64 Sun servers.

It's been slow going for me, but I've had great success working with  
my SAN team (who in turn work with HDS), on getting new technologies*  
working in our environment.

-john

*Our SAN team runs things very conservatively. They consider new  
technologies to be things introduced one to two years ago.
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Re: [zfs-discuss] OT: extremely poor experience with Sun Download Manager

2007-06-14 Thread John Martinez


On Jun 14, 2007, at 8:58 AM, Michael Schuster wrote:


People,

indeed, even though interesting and a problem, this is OT. I  
suggest that everyone who has trouble with SDM address it to the  
people who actually work on it - especially if you're a (potential)  
customer.


Michael, for the sake of others who aren't familiar with Sun's  
practices, how does one do that? Go to Sunsolve?


thanks,
-john
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