Re: [zfs-discuss] Synchronous Mount?

2007-01-24 Thread Prashanth Radhakrishnan

> > Specifically, I was trying to compare ZFS snapshots with LVM snapshots on
> > Linux. One of the tests does writes to an ext3FS (that's on top of an LVM
> > snapshot) mounted synchronously, in order to measure the real
> > Copy-on-write overhead. So, I was wondering if I could do the same with
> > ZFS. Seems not.
> 
> Given that ZFS does COW for *all* writes, what does this test actually intend 
> to show when running on ZFS? Am I missing something, or should not writes to 
> a clone be as fast, or even faster, than a write to a non-clone? Given that 
> COW is always performed, but in the case of the clone the old data is not 
> removed.
> 

well, yes - for ZFS. But not the case with LVM snapshots. Doing the same 
(sync mount) on ZFS was just for comparing them on similar grounds. 
Anyways, I figured ZFS performs way better.
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Synchronous Mount?

2007-01-23 Thread Prashanth Radhakrishnan
Hi Jason,

> My company did a lot of LVM+XFS vs. SVM+UFS testing in addition to
> ZFS. Overall, LVM's overhead is abysmal. We witnessed performance hits
> of 50%+. SVM only reduced performance by about 15%. ZFS was similar,
> though a tad higher.

Yes, LVM snapshots' overhead is high. But I've seen that as you start 
increasing the chunksize, they get better (though, with higher space 
usage).

So, you saw performance reductions as much as 15% with ZFS 
clones/snapshots. I'm curious to know what tests and ZFS config (# of 
snapshots/clones) you ran on.

I ran bonnie++ and din't notice any perceptible drops in the numbers. 
Though my config had only upto 3 clones and 3 snapshots for each of them.

> Also, my understanding is you can't write to a ZFS snapshot...unless
> you clone it. Perhaps, someone who knows more than I can clarify.

Right. I wanted to check if creating snapshots affected the performance of 
the origin FS/clone.

Thanks,
Prashanth

> On 1/23/07, Prashanth Radhakrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > > Is there someway to synchronously mount a ZFS filesystem?
> > > > '-o sync' does not appear to be honoured.
> > > 
> > > No there isn't. Why do you think it is necessary?
> > 
> > Specifically, I was trying to compare ZFS snapshots with LVM snapshots on
> > Linux. One of the tests does writes to an ext3FS (that's on top of an LVM
> > snapshot) mounted synchronously, in order to measure the real
> > Copy-on-write overhead. So, I was wondering if I could do the same with
> > ZFS. Seems not.
> > 
> > Thanks.
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Synchronous Mount?

2007-01-23 Thread Prashanth Radhakrishnan

> > Is there someway to synchronously mount a ZFS filesystem?
> > '-o sync' does not appear to be honoured.
> 
> No there isn't. Why do you think it is necessary?

Specifically, I was trying to compare ZFS snapshots with LVM snapshots on 
Linux. One of the tests does writes to an ext3FS (that's on top of an LVM 
snapshot) mounted synchronously, in order to measure the real 
Copy-on-write overhead. So, I was wondering if I could do the same with 
ZFS. Seems not.

Thanks.
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[zfs-discuss] Synchronous Mount?

2007-01-22 Thread Prashanth Radhakrishnan
Hi,

Is there someway to synchronously mount a ZFS filesystem?
'-o sync' does not appear to be honoured.

Thanks,
Prashanth
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[zfs-discuss] Snapshot of a clone?

2006-11-15 Thread Prashanth Radhakrishnan
Hi,

Is it possible to create snapshots off ZFS clones and further clones off  
those snapshots recursively?

thanks,
Prashanth
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