[zfs-discuss] Eliminating double path with ZFS's volume manager

2007-01-15 Thread Philip Mötteli
Hi,


Since they have installed a second path to our Hitachi SAN, my Mac OS X Server 
4.8 mounts every SAN disk twice.
I asked everywhere, if there's a way, to correct that. And the only answer so 
far was, that I need a volume manager, that can be configured to consider two 
volumes as being identical.
Now that Mac OS X Leopard supports ZFS, could using ZFS be the solution for 
this problem? If yes, how could I achieve this?


Thanks for your help!
Phil
 
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Eliminating double path with ZFS's volume manager

2007-01-15 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Philip,

Monday, January 15, 2007, 10:44:49 AM, you wrote:

PM Hi,


PM Since they have installed a second path to our Hitachi SAN, my
PM Mac OS X Server 4.8 mounts every SAN disk twice.
PM I asked everywhere, if there's a way, to correct that. And the
PM only answer so far was, that I need a volume manager, that can be
PM configured to consider two volumes as being identical.
PM Now that Mac OS X Leopard supports ZFS, could using ZFS be the
PM solution for this problem? If yes, how could I achieve this?


1. I don't know what kind of file system you already have on those
disks but if you really mounted them twice you could have already
corrupt those file systems

2. I belive it's definitely possible to just correct your config under
Mac OS without any need to use other fs or volume manager, however
going to zfs could be a good idea anyway

3. if you put those disks under ZFS it should just work despite of
having second path

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Eliminating double path with ZFS's volume manager

2007-01-15 Thread Torrey McMahon

Robert Milkowski wrote:


2. I belive it's definitely possible to just correct your config under
Mac OS without any need to use other fs or volume manager, however
going to zfs could be a good idea anyway



That implies that MacOS has some sort of native SCSI multipathing like 
Solaris Mpxio. Does such a beast exist?


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Re: [zfs-discuss] Eliminating double path with ZFS's volume manager

2007-01-15 Thread Jason J. W. Williams

Hi Torrey,

I think it does if you buy Xsan. Its still a separate product isn't
it? Thought its more like QFS + MPXIO.

Best Regards,
Jason

On 1/15/07, Torrey McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Robert Milkowski wrote:

 2. I belive it's definitely possible to just correct your config under
 Mac OS without any need to use other fs or volume manager, however
 going to zfs could be a good idea anyway


That implies that MacOS has some sort of native SCSI multipathing like
Solaris Mpxio. Does such a beast exist?

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Eliminating double path with ZFS's volume manager

2007-01-15 Thread Torrey McMahon
Got me. However, transport multipathing - Like Mpxio, DLM, VxDMP, etc. - 
is usually separated from the filesystem layers.


Jason J. W. Williams wrote:

Hi Torrey,

I think it does if you buy Xsan. Its still a separate product isn't
it? Thought its more like QFS + MPXIO.

Best Regards,
Jason

On 1/15/07, Torrey McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Robert Milkowski wrote:

 2. I belive it's definitely possible to just correct your config under
 Mac OS without any need to use other fs or volume manager, however
 going to zfs could be a good idea anyway


That implies that MacOS has some sort of native SCSI multipathing like
Solaris Mpxio. Does such a beast exist?

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Eliminating double path with ZFS's volume manager

2007-01-15 Thread Jason J. W. Williams

Hi Torrey,

Looks like its got a half-way decent multipath design:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Xsan/1.1/en/c3xs12.html

Whether or not it works is another story I suppose. ;-)

Best Regards,
Jason

On 1/15/07, Torrey McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Got me. However, transport multipathing - Like Mpxio, DLM, VxDMP, etc. -
is usually separated from the filesystem layers.

Jason J. W. Williams wrote:
 Hi Torrey,

 I think it does if you buy Xsan. Its still a separate product isn't
 it? Thought its more like QFS + MPXIO.

 Best Regards,
 Jason

 On 1/15/07, Torrey McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Robert Milkowski wrote:
 
  2. I belive it's definitely possible to just correct your config under
  Mac OS without any need to use other fs or volume manager, however
  going to zfs could be a good idea anyway


 That implies that MacOS has some sort of native SCSI multipathing like
 Solaris Mpxio. Does such a beast exist?

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