Re: [zfs-discuss] Finding SATA cards for ZFS; was Lundman home NAS

2009-11-10 Thread Robin Bowes
On 01/09/09 08:26, James Andrewartha wrote:
> Jorgen Lundman wrote:
>>> The mv8 is a marvell based chipset, and it appears there are no
>>> Solaris drivers for it.  There doesn't appear to be any movement from
>>> Sun or marvell to provide any either.
>>
>> Do you mean specifically Marvell 6480 drivers? I use both DAC-SATA-MV8
>> and AOC-SAT2-MV8, which use Marvell MV88SX and works very well in
>> Solaris. (Package SUNWmv88sx).
> 
> They're PCI-X SATA cards, the AOC-SASLP-MV8 is a PCIe SAS card and has
> no (Open)Solaris driver.
> 

Shame, I was just thinking that this was a nice looking card that could
replace my AOC-SAT2-MV8s.

Ah well...

R.

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Finding SATA cards for ZFS; was Lundman home NAS

2009-09-01 Thread James Andrewartha

Jorgen Lundman wrote:
The mv8 is a marvell based chipset, and it appears there are no 
Solaris drivers for it.  There doesn't appear to be any movement from 
Sun or marvell to provide any either.


Do you mean specifically Marvell 6480 drivers? I use both DAC-SATA-MV8 
and AOC-SAT2-MV8, which use Marvell MV88SX and works very well in 
Solaris. (Package SUNWmv88sx).


They're PCI-X SATA cards, the AOC-SASLP-MV8 is a PCIe SAS card and has no 
(Open)Solaris driver.


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Re: [zfs-discuss] Finding SATA cards for ZFS; was Lundman home NAS

2009-08-31 Thread Tim Cook
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Jorgen Lundman  wrote:

> The mv8 is a marvell based chipset, and it appears there are no Solaris
>> drivers for it.  There doesn't appear to be any movement from Sun or marvell
>> to provide any either.
>>
>>
> Do you mean specifically Marvell 6480 drivers? I use both DAC-SATA-MV8 and
> AOC-SAT2-MV8, which use Marvell MV88SX and works very well in Solaris.
> (Package SUNWmv88sx).
>
> Lund
>
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Interesting, there was a big thread that this card was in over at hardocp,
and they said with 2009.06 it didn't work.

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Finding SATA cards for ZFS; was Lundman home NAS

2009-08-31 Thread Jorgen Lundman
The mv8 is a marvell based chipset, and it appears there are no Solaris 
drivers for it.  There doesn't appear to be any movement from Sun or 
marvell to provide any either.




Do you mean specifically Marvell 6480 drivers? I use both DAC-SATA-MV8 
and AOC-SAT2-MV8, which use Marvell MV88SX and works very well in 
Solaris. (Package SUNWmv88sx).


Lund

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Finding SATA cards for ZFS; was Lundman home NAS

2009-08-31 Thread Tim Cook
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Brandon High  wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Maurilio Longo
> wrote:
> > Robin,
> >
> > LSI 3041er and 3081er are pci-e 4 and 8 ports sata cards; they are not
> hot-swap capable, as far as I know, but do work very well (I'm using several
> of them) in jbod and they're not too expensive.
>
> Supermicro has an inexpensive PCI-e SAS card available now:
>
> http://supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-SASLP-MV8.cfm
>
> You can also use something like the AOC-USAS-L8i, which costs about
> the same. It's a ULI, so the components are on the "wrong" side of the
> board, but it's still just PCIe electrically.
>
> -B
>
>

The mv8 is a marvell based chipset, and it appears there are no Solaris
drivers for it.  There doesn't appear to be any movement from Sun or marvell
to provide any either.

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Finding SATA cards for ZFS; was Lundman home NAS

2009-08-31 Thread Brandon High
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Maurilio Longo wrote:
> Robin,
>
> LSI 3041er and 3081er are pci-e 4 and 8 ports sata cards; they are not 
> hot-swap capable, as far as I know, but do work very well (I'm using several 
> of them) in jbod and they're not too expensive.

Supermicro has an inexpensive PCI-e SAS card available now:

http://supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AOC-SASLP-MV8.cfm

You can also use something like the AOC-USAS-L8i, which costs about
the same. It's a ULI, so the components are on the "wrong" side of the
board, but it's still just PCIe electrically.

-B

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Finding SATA cards for ZFS; was Lundman home NAS

2009-08-30 Thread Maurilio Longo
Robin,

LSI 3041er and 3081er are pci-e 4 and 8 ports sata cards; they are not hot-swap 
capable, as far as I know, but do work very well (I'm using several of them) in 
jbod and they're not too expensive.

See this

http://www.lsi.com/storage_home/products_home/host_bus_adapters/sas_hbas/lsisas3041er/index.html
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Finding SATA cards for ZFS; was Lundman home NAS

2009-08-29 Thread Robin Bowes
On 03/08/09 17:35, Neal Pollack wrote:
> On 07/31/09 06:12 PM, Jorgen Lundman wrote:
>>
>> Finding a SATA card that would work with Solaris, and be hot-swap, and
>> more than 4 ports, sure took a while. Oh and be reasonably priced ;)
> 
> Let's take this first point; "card that works with Solaris"
> 
> I might try to find some engineers to write device drivers to
> improve this situation.
> Would this alias be interested in teaching me which 3 or 4 cards they would
> put at the top of the "wish list" for Solaris support?
> I assume the current feature gap is defined as needing driver support
> for PCI-express add-in cards that have 4 to 8 ports inexpensive
> JBOD, not expensive HW RAID, and can handle hot-swap while running OS.
> Would this be correct?

That would be correct, except I don't know any cheap, 4- to 8-port PCIe
SATA cards.

I'm still finding that the Supermicro PCI-X 8-port cards are the
cheapest option. But they require PCI-X slot for optimal performance,
which generally means a pricey mobo.

R.

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Finding SATA cards for ZFS; was Lundman home NAS

2009-08-03 Thread Nathan Fiedler
I have not carried out any research into this area, but when I was
building my home server I wanted to use a Promise SATA-PCI card, but
alas (Open)Solaris has no support at all for the Promise chipsets.
Instead I used a rather old card based on the sil3124 chipset.

n


On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Neal Pollack wrote:
> Let's take this first point; "card that works with Solaris"
>
> I might try to find some engineers to write device drivers to
> improve this situation.
> Would this alias be interested in teaching me which 3 or 4 cards they would
> put at the top of the "wish list" for Solaris support?
> I assume the current feature gap is defined as needing driver support
> for PCI-express add-in cards that have 4 to 8 ports inexpensive
> JBOD, not expensive HW RAID, and can handle hot-swap while running OS.
> Would this be correct?
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Finding SATA cards for ZFS; was Lundman home NAS

2009-08-03 Thread Neal Pollack

On 07/31/09 06:12 PM, Jorgen Lundman wrote:


Finding a SATA card that would work with Solaris, and be hot-swap, and 
more than 4 ports, sure took a while. Oh and be reasonably priced ;)


Let's take this first point; "card that works with Solaris"

I might try to find some engineers to write device drivers to
improve this situation.
Would this alias be interested in teaching me which 3 or 4 cards they would
put at the top of the "wish list" for Solaris support? 


I assume the current feature gap is defined as needing driver support
for PCI-express add-in cards that have 4 to 8 ports inexpensive
JBOD, not expensive HW RAID, and can handle hot-swap while running OS.
Would this be correct?

Neal


Double the price of the dual core Atom did not seem right.

The SATA card was a close fit to the jumper were the power-switch 
cable attaches, as you can see in one of the photos. This is because 
the MV8 card is quite long, and has the big plastic SATA sockets. It 
does fit, but it was the tightest spot.


I also picked the 5-in-3 drive cage that had the "shortest" depth 
listed, 190mm. For example the Supermicro M35T is 245mm, another 5cm. 
Not sure that would fit.


Lund


Nathan Fiedler wrote:

Yes, please write more about this. The photos are terrific and I
appreciate the many useful observations you've made. For my home NAS I
chose the Chenbro ES34069 and the biggest problem was finding a
SATA/PCI card that would work with OpenSolaris and fit in the case
(technically impossible without a ribbon cable PCI adapter). After
seeing this, I may reconsider my choice.

For the SATA card, you mentioned that it was a close fit with the case
power switch. Would removing the backplane on the card have helped?

Thanks

n


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 5:22 AM, Jorgen Lundman wrote:
I have assembled my home RAID finally, and I think it looks rather 
good.


http://www.lundman.net/gallery/v/lraid5/p1150547.jpg.html

Feedback is welcome.

I have yet to do proper speed tests, I will do so in the coming week 
should

people be interested.

Even though I have tried to use only existing, and cheap, parts the 
end sum
became higher than I expected. Final price is somewhere in the 
47,000 yen

range. (Without hard disks)

If I were to make and sell these, they would be 57,000 or so, so I 
do not
really know if anyone would be interested. Especially since SOHO NAS 
devices

seem to start around 80,000.

Anyway, sure has been fun.

Lund

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