[zfs-discuss] When is it okay to turn off the verify option.
Folks, As I understand, the hash generated by sha256 is almost guaranteed not to collide. I am thinking it is okay to turn off verify property on the zpool. However, if there is indeed a collision, we lose data. Scrub cannot recover such lost data. I am wondering in real life when is it okay to turn off verify option? I guess for storing business critical data (HR, finance, etc.), you cannot afford to turn this option off. Thank you in advance for your help. Regards, Peter -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] When is it okay to turn off the verify option.
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Peter Taps As I understand, the hash generated by sha256 is almost guaranteed not to collide. I am thinking it is okay to turn off verify property on the zpool. However, if there is indeed a collision, we lose data. Scrub cannot recover such lost data. I am wondering in real life when is it okay to turn off verify option? I guess for storing business critical data (HR, finance, etc.), you cannot afford to turn this option off. Right on all points. It's a calculated risk. If you have a hash collision, you will lose data undetected, and backups won't save you unless *you* are the backup. That is, if the good data, before it got corrupted by your system, happens to be saved somewhere else before it reached your system. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] When is it okay to turn off the verify option.
Why do you want to turn verify off? If performance is the reason, is it significant, on and off? On Oct 4, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Peter Taps As I understand, the hash generated by sha256 is almost guaranteed not to collide. I am thinking it is okay to turn off verify property on the zpool. However, if there is indeed a collision, we lose data. Scrub cannot recover such lost data. I am wondering in real life when is it okay to turn off verify option? I guess for storing business critical data (HR, finance, etc.), you cannot afford to turn this option off. Right on all points. It's a calculated risk. If you have a hash collision, you will lose data undetected, and backups won't save you unless *you* are the backup. That is, if the good data, before it got corrupted by your system, happens to be saved somewhere else before it reached your system. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss Scott Meilicke ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] When is it okay to turn off the verify option.
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Scott Meilicke Why do you want to turn verify off? If performance is the reason, is it significant, on and off? Under most circumstances, verify won't hurt performance. It won't hurt reads of any kind, and it won't hurt writes when you're writing unique data, or if you're writing duplicate data which is warm in the read cache. It will basically hurt write performance if you are writing duplicate data, which was not read recently. This might be the case, for example, if this machine is the target for some remote machine to backup onto. The problem doesn't exist if you're copying local data, because you first read the data (now it's warm in cache) before writing it. So the verify operation is essentially zero time in that case. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
