Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS home server (Brandon High)
The Intel SASUC8I Is a pretty good deal. around 150 dollars for 8 sas/sata channels. This card is identical to the LSI SAS3081E-R for a lot less money. It doesn't come with cables, but this leaves you free to buy the type you need (in my case, i needed SFF-8087 - SFF-8087 cables, some people will need SFF-8087- 4 sata breakout cables...either way, cables run 12-20 dollars each (and each card needs 2) so you can tack that on to the priceThese cards also work well with expanders. They are based on LSI 1068e chip. On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: > - "Annika" skrev: > > > I'm also about to set up a small home server. This little box > > http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&prod=39 > > is able housing six 3,5" hdd's and also has one 2,5" bay, eg for an > > ssd. > > Fine. > > > > I need to know which SATA controller cards (both PCI and PCI-E) are > > supported in OS, also I'd be grateful for tips on which ones to use in > > a > > non-pro environment. > > See http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/data/os/ for supported hardware. There > was also a post in her yesterday or perhaps earlier today about the choice > of SAS/SATA controllers. Most will do in a home server environment, though. > AOC-SAT2-MV8 are great controllers, but run on PCI-X, which isn't very > compatible with PCI Express > > Best regards > > roy > -- > Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk > (+47) 97542685 > r...@karlsbakk.net > http://blogg.karlsbakk.net/ > -- > I all pedagogikk er det essensielt at pensum presenteres intelligibelt. Det > er et elementært imperativ for alle pedagoger å unngå eksessiv anvendelse av > idiomer med fremmed opprinnelse. I de fleste tilfeller eksisterer adekvate > og relevante synonymer på norsk. > ___ > zfs-discuss mailing list > zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss > ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS home server (Brandon High)
- "Annika" skrev: > I'm also about to set up a small home server. This little box > http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&prod=39 > is able housing six 3,5" hdd's and also has one 2,5" bay, eg for an > ssd. > Fine. > > I need to know which SATA controller cards (both PCI and PCI-E) are > supported in OS, also I'd be grateful for tips on which ones to use in > a > non-pro environment. See http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/data/os/ for supported hardware. There was also a post in her yesterday or perhaps earlier today about the choice of SAS/SATA controllers. Most will do in a home server environment, though. AOC-SAT2-MV8 are great controllers, but run on PCI-X, which isn't very compatible with PCI Express Best regards roy -- Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk (+47) 97542685 r...@karlsbakk.net http://blogg.karlsbakk.net/ -- I all pedagogikk er det essensielt at pensum presenteres intelligibelt. Det er et elementært imperativ for alle pedagoger å unngå eksessiv anvendelse av idiomer med fremmed opprinnelse. I de fleste tilfeller eksisterer adekvate og relevante synonymer på norsk. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS home server (Brandon High)
I'm also about to set up a small home server. This little box http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&prod=39 is able housing six 3,5" hdd's and also has one 2,5" bay, eg for an ssd. Fine. I need to know which SATA controller cards (both PCI and PCI-E) are supported in OS, also I'd be grateful for tips on which ones to use in a non-pro environment. My problem, I can't find the HCL for Open Solaris. Thanks in advance for a link. Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 15:16:10 -0700 From: Brandon High To: ZFS discuss Subject: [zfs-discuss] ZFS home server Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've been thinking about building a small NAS box for my father in law to back his home systems up to. He mistakenly bought a Drobo, but his Macs refuse to use it as a Time Machine target, even with the afp protocol. I came across a review of the ASUS TS Mini, which comes with an Atom N280, 1GB RAM, 2 drive bays (one with a Seagate 7200.12 500gb drive), and lots of external ports. Photos in some review show an RGB port inside. Since it was cheap, I ordered one to play with. It's turned out to be a great small NAS and case. It's 9.5" high, 3.75" wide, and 8" deep. Power is from an external brick. The top is held on with thumb screws, which once removed let you pull out the drive cage. The bottom cover is held on by some philips screws. This also gives you access to the single DDR2 SO-DIMM slot. There are also solder pads for a second memory slot and for a PCIe 1x slot. If you're handy with a soldering iron, you could double your memory. Taking the back cover off lets you get at the VGA. You need to use a Torx-9 driver and remove the 8 or so screws, then loosen the motherboard to take it out. Once out, you can see that the RBG port can be trimmed out of the back plate with a razor or dremel. The two internal drives are connected to the ICH7-M southbridge. It looks like a sideways PCIe 1x slot on the motherboard, but it's the sata and power connectors for the internal drives, so don't think you can plug a different card in. The two external eSATA ports are provided via a Marvell 88SE6121 PCIe SATA controller, which supports PMP. There are also 6 USB ports on the back. All of this is supported by OpenSolaris. When booting with a monitor and keyboard attached, you can hit DEL to get into the BIOS and change any settings. There's nothing that prevents you from replacing the provided Windows Home Server. I've currently got the system running NexentaStor Community, booting off of a 4GB USB drive. Large writes (eg: DVD iso) go at about 20MB/s over GigE, and reads are about 40MB/s. It's not the fanciest or fastest system, but I think it'll work fine as an iSCSI target for Time Machine. And my FIL can even use the Drobo as external USB drives if he wants. -B ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
[zfs-discuss] ZFS home server
I've been thinking about building a small NAS box for my father in law to back his home systems up to. He mistakenly bought a Drobo, but his Macs refuse to use it as a Time Machine target, even with the afp protocol. I came across a review of the ASUS TS Mini, which comes with an Atom N280, 1GB RAM, 2 drive bays (one with a Seagate 7200.12 500gb drive), and lots of external ports. Photos in some review show an RGB port inside. Since it was cheap, I ordered one to play with. It's turned out to be a great small NAS and case. It's 9.5" high, 3.75" wide, and 8" deep. Power is from an external brick. The top is held on with thumb screws, which once removed let you pull out the drive cage. The bottom cover is held on by some philips screws. This also gives you access to the single DDR2 SO-DIMM slot. There are also solder pads for a second memory slot and for a PCIe 1x slot. If you're handy with a soldering iron, you could double your memory. Taking the back cover off lets you get at the VGA. You need to use a Torx-9 driver and remove the 8 or so screws, then loosen the motherboard to take it out. Once out, you can see that the RBG port can be trimmed out of the back plate with a razor or dremel. The two internal drives are connected to the ICH7-M southbridge. It looks like a sideways PCIe 1x slot on the motherboard, but it's the sata and power connectors for the internal drives, so don't think you can plug a different card in. The two external eSATA ports are provided via a Marvell 88SE6121 PCIe SATA controller, which supports PMP. There are also 6 USB ports on the back. All of this is supported by OpenSolaris. When booting with a monitor and keyboard attached, you can hit DEL to get into the BIOS and change any settings. There's nothing that prevents you from replacing the provided Windows Home Server. I've currently got the system running NexentaStor Community, booting off of a 4GB USB drive. Large writes (eg: DVD iso) go at about 20MB/s over GigE, and reads are about 40MB/s. It's not the fanciest or fastest system, but I think it'll work fine as an iSCSI target for Time Machine. And my FIL can even use the Drobo as external USB drives if he wants. -B -- Brandon High : bh...@freaks.com ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS home server SATA disk setup
That card does work well, and uses the same chipset as the Thumper. I've found that there are some issues with hot swap, but other than that it works fine. I've got one in a live ZFS server right now. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS home server SATA disk setup
What card did you use instead of the SiL3114 card? Thanks. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS home server SATA disk setup
Looking at the HCL, this looks promising: SuperMicro AOC-SAT2-MV8 (based on Marvell MV88SX6081). But its about 80GBP which is the same as a 1T disk at the moment. Not sure if this card is suitable though. Thanks. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS home server SATA disk setup
Jon Tsu wrote: > Thanks for the replies and info the on the SIL3114 Chipset. Is there a > supported chipset, for ZFS use, that works? I too have seen reports of this > chipset working but yes they are quite old reports. Would be good if someone > has any recommendations. > > Regarding my setup, its a RAIDZ1 zpool with 3 x 500GB disks. I wish to add > another 500GB disk but like I said I have run out of SATA ports on my > motherboard. I don't really want to get a new motherboard with more onboard > SATA ports if I can help it. > > I haven't seen any other cheap supported PCI SATA controllers. You might find it's cheaper to buy a couple of 1.5TB SATA disks to use as a mirror on your existing SATA ports than it is to buy a supported multi-port PCI SATA card. -- Andrew ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS home server SATA disk setup
Thanks for the replies and info the on the SIL3114 Chipset. Is there a supported chipset, for ZFS use, that works? I too have seen reports of this chipset working but yes they are quite old reports. Would be good if someone has any recommendations. Regarding my setup, its a RAIDZ1 zpool with 3 x 500GB disks. I wish to add another 500GB disk but like I said I have run out of SATA ports on my motherboard. I don't really want to get a new motherboard with more onboard SATA ports if I can help it. Thanks. J -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS home server SATA disk setup
Jon Tsu wrote: > Hi > > I am currently running a ZFS home server and want to add more disks. However > my motherboard only has 4 SATA ports which are all used as follows: > > Onboard SATA1 : Boot disk > Onboard SATA2 : ZFS Disk 1 > Onboard SATA3 : ZFS Disk 2 > Onboard SATA4 : ZFS Disk 3 > > I wish to purchase a 4 port SATA PCI controller card (StarTech.com 4 Port PCI > SATA uses the Silicom Image SIL3114 Chipset) to accommodate an extra disk in > the following configuration: Avoid the SiL3112 and SiL3114 chipsets (I did throw mine SiL3114 based PCI card away). see: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=286090 http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=37556 v. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS home server SATA disk setup
Jon Tsu wrote: > Hi > > I am currently running a ZFS home server and want to add more disks. However > my motherboard only has 4 SATA ports which are all used as follows: > > Onboard SATA1 : Boot disk > Onboard SATA2 : ZFS Disk 1 > Onboard SATA3 : ZFS Disk 2 > Onboard SATA4 : ZFS Disk 3 > > I wish to purchase a 4 port SATA PCI controller card (StarTech.com 4 Port PCI > SATA uses the Silicom Image SIL3114 Chipset) to accommodate an extra disk in > the following configuration: > I've had no luck getting the SIL3112 Chipset working, although I know some people have it working. Solaris tries to drive it, but always just gets back a 'not ready' status, IIRC. I tried several different SIL3112 PCI controllers, all with the same result. It may be that it works if integrated onto the motherboard and initialised by the BIOS, but I couldn't get any add-in PCI cards working. (Yes, I did flash them with the non-RAID BIOS, which you'll have to do if you get one with the RAID BIOS on it.) Also, it's a rather old chipset now (one of the earliest SATA interfaces). It's basically emulating an IDE drive interface as far as the system is concerned, and I guess that it probably doesn't support some SATA features as a result. > Onboard SATA1 : Boot disk > Onboard SATA2 : ZFS Disk 1 > Onboard SATA3 : ZFS Disk 2 > > PCI SATA1 : ZFS Disk 3 > PCI SATA2 : ZFS Disk 4 > > I obviously have to blow my existing zpool, That depends how your existing pool is configured, which you haven't said. > but my question is will I see any performance loss by splitting my disks > across different controllers? No, but you might see a performance loss using such an old SATA controller (for example, if it doesn't support queueing, which I don't know if it does or not). > Or is it better to stick all the 4 disks on the PCI card? > -- Andrew ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
[zfs-discuss] ZFS home server SATA disk setup
Hi I am currently running a ZFS home server and want to add more disks. However my motherboard only has 4 SATA ports which are all used as follows: Onboard SATA1 : Boot disk Onboard SATA2 : ZFS Disk 1 Onboard SATA3 : ZFS Disk 2 Onboard SATA4 : ZFS Disk 3 I wish to purchase a 4 port SATA PCI controller card (StarTech.com 4 Port PCI SATA uses the Silicom Image SIL3114 Chipset) to accommodate an extra disk in the following configuration: Onboard SATA1 : Boot disk Onboard SATA2 : ZFS Disk 1 Onboard SATA3 : ZFS Disk 2 PCI SATA1 : ZFS Disk 3 PCI SATA2 : ZFS Disk 4 I obviously have to blow my existing zpool, but my question is will I see any performance loss by splitting my disks across different controllers? Or is it better to stick all the 4 disks on the PCI card? Thanks in advance. J -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
