Re: [zfs-discuss] legato support
Gregory Shaw wrote: Hey, does anybody know the timeframe for when Legato Networker will support ZFS? Looks like EMC has released Networker version 7.3.2 which has ZFS support. -Mark ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] legato support
Anne Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The EMC/Legato NetWorker (a.k.a. Sun StorEdge EBS) support for ZFS NFSv4/ACLs will be in NetWorker 7.3.2 release currently targeting for September release. Any word on equivalent support in VERITAS/Symantec NetBackup? Rainer -- - Rainer Orth, Faculty of Technology, Bielefeld University ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] legato support
I've been backing up ZFS with NetBackup 5.1 without issue. I won't say it does everything, but I am able to backup and restore individual files.On Jul 21, 2006, at 7:08 AM, Rainer Orth wrote:Anne Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The EMC/Legato NetWorker (a.k.a. Sun StorEdge EBS) support for ZFS NFSv4/ACLs will be in NetWorker 7.3.2 release currently targeting for September release. Any word on equivalent support in VERITAS/Symantec NetBackup? Rainer-- -Rainer Orth, Faculty of Technology, Bielefeld University -Gregory Shaw, IT ArchitectPhone: (303) 673-8273 Fax: (303) 673-8273ITCTO Group, Sun Microsystems Inc.1 StorageTek Drive MS 4382 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work)Louisville, CO 80028-4382 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home)"When Microsoft writes an application for Linux, I've Won." - Linus Torvalds ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] legato support
Gregory, I've been backing up ZFS with NetBackup 5.1 without issue. I won't say it does everything, but I am able to backup and restore individual files. I know: we're actually using 4.5 at the moment ;-) My question was specificialy about ACL support. I think the ZFS Admin Guide mentions two CRs for this, one for Legato and another for NetBackup. Rainer - Rainer Orth, Faculty of Technology, Bielefeld University ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] legato support
as promissed: not working... only the directories are getting created/backuped... zici:/export/projects/.zfs/snapshot: No full backups of this save set were found in the media database; performing a full backup * zici:/export/projects/.zfs/snapshot save: Unable to read ACL * information for `/export/projects/': Operation not applicable * zici:/export/projects/.zfs/snapshot save: RPC error: RPC cannot * encode arguments * zici:/export/projects/.zfs/snapshot save: save of connecting * directories failed zici: /export/projects/.zfs/snapshot level=full, 3 KB 00:00:03 10 files so for fun im testing this now: zfs set sharenfs=ro=zici,root=zici projects mount -o ro,vers=4 zici:/export/projects /export/backup then added the save-set /export/backup in Legato, see what happends.. mount shows: /export/backup on zici:/export/projects remote/read only/setuid/devices/largefiles/vers=4/xattr/dev=4d80008 on Fri Jul 21 08:09:45 2006 note: /export/projects is the mount-point for the project zfs-pool should know by tomorrow... or maybe i'll start the backup this afternoon -ls Do you have ACLs you need to maintain? Can you just specify a snapshot as a saveset directly? Well we not (yet) worry about the ACLs as long we have a backup, using zfs sent/receieve of the snapshot to 1 single tar en dan to tape.. I meant, rather than taring it up, can you just pass the snapshot mount point to Networker as a saveset? Does Networker error when you give it a ZFS filesystem or snapshot as a saveset (not counting ACL warnings)? i will have to try.. letme do this now and report tomorrow I'll added /export/projects/.zfs/snapshot in the save set.. and btw: Networker 7.1.2 build 325... (we have 7.2 and 7.3 but never upgraded since it works ...) ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
[zfs-discuss] legato support
Hey, does anybody know the timeframe for when Legato Networker will support ZFS?Or, perhaps, a workaround whereby backups of ZFS by Networker will succeed? -Gregory Shaw, IT ArchitectPhone: (303) 673-8273 Fax: (303) 673-2773ITCTO Group, Sun Microsystems Inc.1 StorageTek Drive ULVL4-382 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work)Louisville, CO 80028-4382 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home)"When Microsoft writes an application for Linux, I've Won." - Linus Torvalds ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] legato support
Gregory Shaw wrote: Hey, does anybody know the timeframe for when Legato Networker will support ZFS? Or, perhaps, a workaround whereby backups of ZFS by Networker will succeed? EMC has a patch that we have tested and it appears to work. Last I heard they were planning on releasing the patch sometime in August. -Mark ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] legato support
Gregory Shaw wrote: Hey, does anybody know the timeframe for when Legato Networker will support ZFS? Or, perhaps, a workaround whereby backups of ZFS by Networker will succeed? EMC has a patch that we have tested and it appears to work. Last I heard they were planning on releasing the patch sometime in August. Mark, do you know if this is for 7.3 or will it work for 7.2 too?? we are still using 7.2 and have no plan to update to 7.3 yet... right now we doing snapshots and send to tar-tape, ugly... thanks -luc ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] legato support
Luc I. Suryo wrote: Gregory Shaw wrote: Hey, does anybody know the timeframe for when Legato Networker will support ZFS? Or, perhaps, a workaround whereby backups of ZFS by Networker will succeed? EMC has a patch that we have tested and it appears to work. Last I heard they were planning on releasing the patch sometime in August. Mark, do you know if this is for 7.3 or will it work for 7.2 too?? we are still using 7.2 and have no plan to update to 7.3 yet... I believe it is for 7.3. Tim Foster actually did the testing of it. right now we doing snapshots and send to tar-tape, ugly... thanks -luc ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] legato support
The EMC/Legato NetWorker (a.k.a. Sun StorEdge EBS) support for ZFS NFSv4/ACLs will be in NetWorker 7.3.2 release currently targeting for September release. Regards, -- Anne Mark Shellenbaum wrote: Gregory Shaw wrote: Hey, does anybody know the timeframe for when Legato Networker will support ZFS? Or, perhaps, a workaround whereby backups of ZFS by Networker will succeed? EMC has a patch that we have tested and it appears to work. Last I heard they were planning on releasing the patch sometime in August. -Mark ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] legato support
do you know if this is for 7.3 or will it work for 7.2 too?? we are still using 7.2 and have no plan to update to 7.3 yet... right now we doing snapshots and send to tar-tape, ugly... Do you have ACLs you need to maintain? Can you just specify a snapshot as a saveset directly? -- Darren Dunham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Technical Consultant TAOShttp://www.taos.com/ Got some Dr Pepper? San Francisco, CA bay area This line left intentionally blank to confuse you. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] legato support
Anne Wong schrieb: The EMC/Legato NetWorker (a.k.a. Sun StorEdge EBS) support for ZFS NFSv4/ACLs will be in NetWorker 7.3.2 release currently targeting for September release. Will it also support the new zfs style automounts? Or do I have to set zfs set mountpoint=legacy zfs/file/system and use 'good ole' /etc/vfstab? Daniel ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] legato support
do you know if this is for 7.3 or will it work for 7.2 too?? we are still using 7.2 and have no plan to update to 7.3 yet... right now we doing snapshots and send to tar-tape, ugly... Do you have ACLs you need to maintain? Can you just specify a snapshot as a saveset directly? Well we not (yet) worry about the ACLs as long we have a backup, using zfs sent/receieve of the snapshot to 1 single tar en dan to tape.. the main thing is to have backup and using snaphot works fine... i have to admit that is still need to test a restore... -ls ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] legato support
Do you have ACLs you need to maintain? Can you just specify a snapshot as a saveset directly? Well we not (yet) worry about the ACLs as long we have a backup, using zfs sent/receieve of the snapshot to 1 single tar en dan to tape.. I meant, rather than taring it up, can you just pass the snapshot mount point to Networker as a saveset? Does Networker error when you give it a ZFS filesystem or snapshot as a saveset (not counting ACL warnings)? i will have to try.. letme do this now and report tomorrow I'll added /export/projects/.zfs/snapshot in the save set.. and btw: Networker 7.1.2 build 325... (we have 7.2 and 7.3 but never upgraded since it works ...) reporting tomorrow... -luc ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] legato support
Darren Dunham wrote: I meant, rather than taring it up, can you just pass the snapshot mount point to Networker as a saveset? Yup, in my brief testing, I was able to backup a snapdir using Networker. Pointing Networker at a ZFS mountpoint with the snapdir shown ( .zfs, at the top level directory ) caused only the filesystem to be backed up, not the contents of the snapdir. One disclaimer to disclaim here, is that my main focus on this work was to get some quick sanity checks with ZFS, particularly looking at ZFS's stability and investigating how the apps handled our new ACLs - for the most part I wasn't testing the 3rd party apps themselves in depth. Regarding the question of zfs mountpoints, using the term 'automount' is probably liable to get some folks who deal with autofs a bit confused. I think you mean zfs managing it's own mountpoints here, in which case, no I didn't run into any problems, but see the disclaimer above. Does Networker traditionally scan /etc/vfstab in any way ? If it doesn't then I'm guessing you shouldn't have any problems. cheers, tim -- Tim Foster, Sun Microsystems Inc, Operating Platforms Group Engineering Operationshttp://blogs.sun.com/timf ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] legato support
Och, sorry - a clarification might needed to my reply: Tim Foster wrote: Darren Dunham wrote: I meant, rather than taring it up, can you just pass the snapshot mount point to Networker as a saveset? Yup, in my brief testing, I was able to backup a snapdir using Networker. ... ** with the version of Networker that includes the support Anne mentioned earlier in this thread that is targeted for September ** (it won't work without this) - phew, cheers, tim Pointing Networker at a ZFS mountpoint with the snapdir shown ( .zfs, at the top level directory ) caused only the filesystem to be backed up, not the contents of the snapdir. One disclaimer to disclaim here, is that my main focus on this work was to get some quick sanity checks with ZFS, particularly looking at ZFS's stability and investigating how the apps handled our new ACLs - for the most part I wasn't testing the 3rd party apps themselves in depth. Regarding the question of zfs mountpoints, using the term 'automount' is probably liable to get some folks who deal with autofs a bit confused. I think you mean zfs managing it's own mountpoints here, in which case, no I didn't run into any problems, but see the disclaimer above. Does Networker traditionally scan /etc/vfstab in any way ? If it doesn't then I'm guessing you shouldn't have any problems. cheers, tim -- Tim Foster, Sun Microsystems Inc, Operating Platforms Group Engineering Operationshttp://blogs.sun.com/timf ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
