Re: [zfs-discuss] scrub differs in execute time?
Yes that might be the cause. Thanks for identifying that. So I would gain bandwidth if I tucked some drives on the mobo SATA and some drives on the AOC card, instead of having all drives on the AOC card. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] scrub differs in execute time?
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes that might be the cause. Thanks for identifying that. So I would gain bandwidth if I tucked some drives on the mobo SATA and some drives on the AOC card, instead of having all drives on the AOC card. Yup! The ICH10 is connected at 10Gb/sec to the northbridge, so it shouldn't have bandwidth issues. 2 modern drives will be able to fully saturate the PCI bus. You could get away with more however, since most activity isn't large sequential reads. Things like scrubs (which are lots of sequential reads) will take a more noticeable performance hit than everyday use. -B -- Brandon High : bh...@freaks.com God is big, so don't fuck with him. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] scrub differs in execute time?
I use Intel Q9450 + P45 Gigabyte EP45-DS3P. I put the AOC card into a PCI slot, not PCI-x. About the HBA, I have no idea. So I had half of the drives in the AOC card, and the other half on the mobo SATA ports. Now I have all drives to the AOC card, and suddenly a scrub takes 15h instead of 8h. Same data. This is weird. I dont get it. I dont care too much about it, but just wanted to tell you this. Thanks for your attention. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] scrub differs in execute time?
P45 Gigabyte EP45-DS3P. I put the AOC card into a PCI slot I'm not sure how many half your disks are or how your vdevs are configured, but the ICH10 has 6 sata ports at 300MB and one PCI port at 266MB (that's also shared with the IT8213 IDE chip) so in an ideal world your scrub bandwidth would be 300*6 MB with 6 disks on ICH10, in a strip 300*1 MB with 6 disks on ICH10, in a raidz 300*3+(266/3) MB with 3 disks on ICH10, and 3 on shared PCI in a strip 266/3 MB with 3 disks on ICH10, and 3 on shared PCI in a raidz 266/6 MB with 6 disks on shared PCI in a stripe 266/6 MB with 6 disks on shared PCI in a raidz we know disk don't go that fast anyway, but going from a 8h to 15h scrub is very reasonable depending on vdev config. Rob ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] scrub differs in execute time?
On Sat, Nov 14 at 11:23, Rob Logan wrote: P45 Gigabyte EP45-DS3P. I put the AOC card into a PCI slot I'm not sure how many half your disks are or how your vdevs are configured, but the ICH10 has 6 sata ports at 300MB and one PCI port at 266MB (that's also shared with the IT8213 IDE chip) so in an ideal world your scrub bandwidth would be 300*6 MB with 6 disks on ICH10, in a strip 300*1 MB with 6 disks on ICH10, in a raidz 300*3+(266/3) MB with 3 disks on ICH10, and 3 on shared PCI in a strip 266/3 MB with 3 disks on ICH10, and 3 on shared PCI in a raidz 266/6 MB with 6 disks on shared PCI in a stripe 266/6 MB with 6 disks on shared PCI in a raidz we know disk don't go that fast anyway, but going from a 8h to 15h scrub is very reasonable depending on vdev config. Rob Agreed, sounds like you're saturating the PCI port. I'm pretty sure that when Thumper uses that board, they have 6 of them in PCI-X slots, which of course wouldn't have the same bandwidth limitation. --eric -- Eric D. Mudama edmud...@mail.bounceswoosh.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] scrub differs in execute time?
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com wrote: I use Intel Q9450 + P45 Gigabyte EP45-DS3P. I put the AOC card into a PCI slot, not PCI-x. About the HBA, I have no idea. It sounds like you're saturating the PCI port. The ICH10 has a 32-bit/33MHz PCI bus which provides 133MB/s at half duplex. This a much less than the full bandwidth from the number of drives you have on the AOC card. Getting a mobo with a PCI-X slot, getting a PCIe controller, or leaving as many drives as you can on the ICH will help performance. -B -- Brandon High : bh...@freaks.com War is Peace. Slavery is Freedom. AOL is the Internet. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] scrub differs in execute time?
The ICH10 has a 32-bit/33MHz PCI bus which provides 133MB/s at half duplex. you are correct, I thought ICH10 used a 66Mhz bus, when infact its 33Mhz. The AOC card works fine in a PCI-X 64Bit/133Mhz slot good for 1,067 MB/s even if the motherboard uses a PXH chip via 8 lane PCIE. Rob ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
[zfs-discuss] scrub differs in execute time?
I have a raidz2 and did a scrub, it took 8h. Then I reconnected some drives to other SATA ports, and now it takes 15h to scrub?? Why is that? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] scrub differs in execute time?
How do you do, On 13 nov 2009, at 11.07, Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com wrote: I have a raidz2 and did a scrub, it took 8h. Then I reconnected some drives to other SATA ports, and now it takes 15h to scrub?? Why is that? Could you perhaps provid some more info? Which OSOL release? are the new disks utilized? Have the pool data changed? Is there a difference in how much data that is read from the disks? Is the system otherwise idle? Which SATA controller? Does iostat show any errors? Regards Henrik http://sparcv9.blogspot.com ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] scrub differs in execute time?
Yes I do fine. How do you do-be-do-be-do? I have OpenSolaris b125 and filled a zpool with data. I did scrub on it, which took 8 hours. Some of the drives were connected to the mobo, some of the drives were connected to the AOC-MV8... marvellsx88 card which is used in Thumper. Then I connected all drives to the AOC-MV8... card and did a scrub again. With the same data, nothing changed. And suddenly it took 15hours. zpool iostat doesnt show any errors or something unusual. The system is otherwise idle. When I issue a scrub, there will be a forecast and in the first case it said 8h. The scrub finished in 8h. Then I reconnected the cables and the scrub forecast said 15h, which it did. So, if nothing is changed on the zpool, why does scrub finish in 8h, and then rearranging the SATA cables, it takes 15h - with the same data? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] scrub differs in execute time?
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes I do fine. How do you do-be-do-be-do? I have OpenSolaris b125 and filled a zpool with data. I did scrub on it, which took 8 hours. Some of the drives were connected to the mobo, some of the drives were connected to the AOC-MV8... marvellsx88 card which is used in Thumper. Then I connected all drives to the AOC-MV8... card and did a scrub again. With the same data, nothing changed. And suddenly it took 15hours. zpool iostat doesnt show any errors or something unusual. The system is otherwise idle. When I issue a scrub, there will be a forecast and in the first case it said 8h. The scrub finished in 8h. Then I reconnected the cables and the scrub forecast said 15h, which it did. So, if nothing is changed on the zpool, why does scrub finish in 8h, and then rearranging the SATA cables, it takes 15h - with the same data? What's the motherboard model? --Tim ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
Re: [zfs-discuss] scrub differs in execute time?
On Fri, Nov 13 at 15:58, Tim Cook wrote: On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Orvar Korvar knatte_fnatte_tja...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes I do fine. How do you do-be-do-be-do? I have OpenSolaris b125 and filled a zpool with data. I did scrub on it, which took 8 hours. Some of the drives were connected to the mobo, some of the drives were connected to the AOC-MV8... marvellsx88 card which is used in Thumper. Then I connected all drives to the AOC-MV8... card and did a scrub again. With the same data, nothing changed. And suddenly it took 15hours. zpool iostat doesnt show any errors or something unusual. The system is otherwise idle. When I issue a scrub, there will be a forecast and in the first case it said 8h. The scrub finished in 8h. Then I reconnected the cables and the scrub forecast said 15h, which it did. So, if nothing is changed on the zpool, why does scrub finish in 8h, and then rearranging the SATA cables, it takes 15h - with the same data? What's the motherboard model? Is the AOC-MV8 plugged into a PCI or PCI-X slot? Is the HBA saturated? When you were putting half on this card and half on the motherboard, you were using multiple IO paths that you aren't once all the IO is through the card. -- Eric D. Mudama edmud...@mail.bounceswoosh.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss
