Re: [zfs-discuss] Question about WD drives with Super Micro systems

2011-08-06 Thread Richard Elling
On Aug 6, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:

 Hi all
 
 We have a few servers with WD Black (and some green) drives on Super Micro 
 systems. We've seen both drives work well with direct attach, but with LSI 
 controllers and Super Micro's SAS expanders, well, that's another story. With 
 those SAS expanders, we've seen numerous drives being kicked out and flagged 
 as bad during high load (typically scrub/resilver). We have not seen this on 
 the units we have with Hitachi or Seagate drives. After a drive is kicked 
 out, we run a test on it, using WDs tool, and in many (or most) cases, we 
 find the drive being error free. We've seen these issues on several machines, 
 so hardware failure seem not to be the case.
 
 Have anyone here used WD drives with LSI controllers (3801/3081/9211) with 
 Super Micro machines? Any success stories?

In my experience, SATA drives behind SAS expanders just don't work. They fail 
in the manner you
describe, sooner or later. Use SAS and be happy.
 -- richard

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Question about WD drives with Super Micro systems

2011-08-06 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
 In my experience, SATA drives behind SAS expanders just don't work.
 They fail in the manner you
 describe, sooner or later. Use SAS and be happy.

Funny thing is Hitachi and Seagate drives work stably, whereas WD drives tend 
to fail rather quickly

Vennlige hilsener / Best regards

roy
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Question about WD drives with Super Micro systems

2011-08-06 Thread Richard Elling
On Aug 6, 2011, at 9:56 AM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:

 In my experience, SATA drives behind SAS expanders just don't work.
 They fail in the manner you
 describe, sooner or later. Use SAS and be happy.
 
 Funny thing is Hitachi and Seagate drives work stably, whereas WD drives tend 
 to fail rather quickly

For reference, there are no WD disks qualified for use on NexentaStor platforms.
 -- richard

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Re: [zfs-discuss] Question about WD drives with Super Micro systems

2011-08-06 Thread Jason Fortezzo
On Sat, Aug 06, 2011 at 06:45:05PM +0200, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:
 Have anyone here used WD drives with LSI controllers (3801/3081/9211)
 with Super Micro machines? Any success stories?

I'm using 4 x WD RE3 1TB drives with a Supermicro X7SB3 mobo with a
builtin LSI 1068E controller and a CSE-SAS-833TQ SAS backplane.

Have run ZFS with both Solaris and FreeBSD without a problem for a
couple years now.  Had one drive go bad, but it was caught early by
running periodic scrubs.

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Jason Fortezzo
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Question about WD drives with Super Micro systems

2011-08-06 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
 I'm using 4 x WD RE3 1TB drives with a Supermicro X7SB3 mobo with a
 builtin LSI 1068E controller and a CSE-SAS-833TQ SAS backplane.
 
 Have run ZFS with both Solaris and FreeBSD without a problem for a
 couple years now. Had one drive go bad, but it was caught early by
 running periodic scrubs.

We have some 180 drives on these systems, with 1068-based chipsets, and it 
seems problems arouse when traffic is high.

Vennlige hilsener / Best regards

roy
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Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
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r...@karlsbakk.net
http://blogg.karlsbakk.net/
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