Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.53 for Windows available now
Thanks a lot, Brendan. As a Windows user, I really appreciate your work. Just a quick note: on http://www.glump.net/software/zim the table reads: "download 12MB", but the installer weighs about 21MB. Perhaps it's a typo. I'm letting you know this, because the size difference might confuse some users. Kind regards Marco Cevoli On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 00:34, Brendan Kidwell wrote: > The Windows builds of Zim 0.53 are ready to download. Thanks to Jaap and all > other contributors for their hard work. > http://www.glump.net/software/zim > The Desktop Installer creates Start Menu shortcuts and shell launch > integration for .zim files. The new Portable Installer based on > PortableApps.com's toolchain creates no system-wide footprint and runs > entirely from its installed folder. If you want to keep the executable on a > thumbdrive or a network share, use the Portable version. > If you installed a prerelease build of 0.53 for Windows, please reinstall > from one of the installers published today! > > A note about the PortableApps.com tools: While I did use PortableApps.com's > toolchain to build the portable installer (and save myself a lot of > experimentation), I have not yet submitted the application to > PortableApps.com. Surprisingly, there is no simple "submit a new > application" form. You're expected to join the community, do the usual > lurking, post a forum message in the "Beta releases" forum, and then hope > that one of the catalog maintainers will pick up your project after people > post positive comments. I suppose I can understand why they'd do it this > way, but I expected something more like Freshmeat's workflow. Oh well. I'll > be starting that process this week and if it ever goes anywhere I'll let you > all know. > Brendan Kidwell > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.53 for Windows available now
Brendan thanks for all your diligence in taking care of this conversion to Windows once again for this new release. Many thanks, and greatly appreciated. Colin -- Colin Henderson On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 18:34, Brendan Kidwell wrote: > The Windows builds of Zim 0.53 are ready to download. Thanks to Jaap and > all other contributors for their hard work. > > http://www.glump.net/software/zim > > The Desktop Installer creates Start Menu shortcuts and shell launch > integration for .zim files. The new Portable Installer based on > PortableApps.com's toolchain creates no system-wide footprint and runs > entirely from its installed folder. If you want to keep the executable on a > thumbdrive or a network share, use the Portable version. > > If you installed a prerelease build of 0.53 for Windows, please reinstall > from one of the installers published today! > > A note about the PortableApps.com tools: While I did use PortableApps.com's > toolchain to build the portable installer (and save myself a lot of > experimentation), I have not yet submitted the application to > PortableApps.com. Surprisingly, there is no simple "submit a new > application" form. You're expected to join the community, do the usual > lurking, post a forum message in the "Beta releases" forum, and then hope > that one of the catalog maintainers will pick up your project after people > post positive comments. I suppose I can understand why they'd do it this > way, but I expected something more like Freshmeat's workflow. Oh well. I'll > be starting that process this week and if it ever goes anywhere I'll let you > all know. > > Brendan Kidwell > > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Zim-wiki] Zim 0.53 for Windows available now
The Windows builds of Zim 0.53 are ready to download. Thanks to Jaap and all other contributors for their hard work. http://www.glump.net/software/zim The Desktop Installer creates Start Menu shortcuts and shell launch integration for .zim files. The new Portable Installer based on PortableApps.com's toolchain creates no system-wide footprint and runs entirely from its installed folder. If you want to keep the executable on a thumbdrive or a network share, use the Portable version. If you installed a prerelease build of 0.53 for Windows, please reinstall from one of the installers published today! A note about the PortableApps.com tools: While I did use PortableApps.com's toolchain to build the portable installer (and save myself a lot of experimentation), I have not yet submitted the application to PortableApps.com. Surprisingly, there is no simple "submit a new application" form. You're expected to join the community, do the usual lurking, post a forum message in the "Beta releases" forum, and then hope that one of the catalog maintainers will pick up your project after people post positive comments. I suppose I can understand why they'd do it this way, but I expected something more like Freshmeat's workflow. Oh well. I'll be starting that process this week and if it ever goes anywhere I'll let you all know. Brendan Kidwell ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] ZIm and handling of plain text files
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 05:13, Anthony Thyssen wrote: > On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:59:24 -0400 > Brendan Kidwell wrote: > | On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:01 AM, Anthony Thyssen > | wrote: > | > | > I have looked at a lot of different 'text note browsers'. > | > > | > That is a way of storing simple notes that can be brought up on screen > | > for making notes, cuting an pasting templates (code and so on), and > | > storing those notes where I want them. > | > > | > Zim does all these things and I am quite happy with it -- mostly. > | > It certainly beats a lot of other 'note browsers' I have looked at, > | > including gnote and the newer 'postitnote' programs I checked out. > | > > | > The main failing with the others have been there heavy handed behaviour > | > in text formatting or where or how the files are saved. > | > > | > I like and prefer to use PLAIN TEXT whenever posible. > | > > | > | It sounds like you might be better served by an "Orthodox File Managers". > | http://www.softpanorama.org/OFM/index.shtml > | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_manager#Orthodox_file_managers > | > | You want something with hierarchical directory browser and quick view/edit > | function for text files -- preferably integrated into the main application > | as a panel that doesn't go away. > | > | It's a bit of a long shot, but you -- I assume you're using a Unix -- might > | want to try out ZTreeWin under WINE if you can run WINE. I can't find a > | relevant screenshot at this time, but I know it has a mode where after you > | choose a working directory, you can have a file list panel on the left and a > | contents viewer on the right, and 'E' transitions to an editor window, or > | something like that. (Incidentally I'm not sure I'd call ZTreeWin an OFM, > | but it's in a related genre.) > | > | That having been said, I've had good luck pasting text from any source into > | Zim and having it come out mostly unchanged. As the manual says, Zim > | currently uses markup that requires at least two repeated characters to open > | and close markup tags. If what I'm pasting is not semantically or visually > | marked up to begin with, I'm usually fine. > | > | Brendan > > I agree with you, its ability to cut and paste cleanly and has been one > of the major reasons for my use of zim (now 3 years or so). > > I just find it annoying that when making edits of plain text, it > suddenly adds extra unwanted formatting. Especially to the saved file, > which I often access from the command line as well as from zim. > > I never really liked Orthodox File Managers, though I am much more of a > command line user than a file manager user, I use both, often in > conjunction. As for using a more GUI filemanager (such as gnome > nautilus), I also found access to these 'notes' less useful than via a > dedicated program such as zim. > > However I'll have a try of ZTreeWin under wine > > I should have mentioned, that I am a UNIX user from way way back (late > '80's) and while most of my editing is done using vim, for cut and paste > of large block of text (often into a vim editor, email, or web form) > I found best sourced from some GUI template popup, such as provided by > zim. > > > > ASIDE: I use the plain text for many things > + code blocks, templates, > + shell sequences (that need small tweeks for varying situation) > > one unusual example I use zim for is the copy-pasting of actual VIM > keystrokes and > > For example > > :" Reformat all paragraphs > QTgg}gqGgg} > > The :" is equivalent to a VIM command comment :-) the next line > does the task described > > The hardest part of that technique is the inability to add an 'escape' > character to vim sequences. > > In fact by creating a copy-paste sequence I can very very quickly > edit 100's of files with specific or complex edits! As a bonus > the 'macro' is saved where I can see and find it again quickly. > > Everything from english text file conversions (such as one line > paragraphs vs blank line end, 72 column paragraphs), to HTMLize > or de-HTMLise files, to sorting, or even specific data conversions. > > > > In this type of work, any extra formatting just gets in the > way. especially if I need to access remotely via ssh (command line) > too. > Actually, you might want to look at these two KDE feature requests. They request exactly what you are asking for: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=260773 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261081 Please comment in support of those two RFEs! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Zim-wiki] building Zim version 0.53 release
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Brendan Kidwell wrote: > On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Jaap Karssenberg < > jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Just uploaded the package for zim release 0.53 to the website. > > > Jaap, I'm ready to do the Windows build, but I can't figure out what to > build from. I don't see a "Zim 0.53" tag in lp:zim, and the source tarball > on the web site doesn't have the ./windows folder in it. Can you tell me > exactly which revision number in the repository to pull from? (Or am I doing > something wrong?) > Probably it was not synced yet when you were pulling it, it is there now. Otherwise pull from http://www.zim-wiki.org/bzr/pyzim which is the source URL which lp is syncing from. Regards, Jaap ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki Post to : zim-wiki@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~zim-wiki More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp