Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.53 for Windows available now

2011-09-20 Thread Marco Cevoli
Thanks a lot, Brendan.

As a Windows user, I really appreciate your work.

Just a quick note: on http://www.glump.net/software/zim the table
reads: "download 12MB", but the installer weighs about 21MB. Perhaps
it's a typo. I'm letting you know this, because the size difference
might confuse some users.

Kind regards

Marco Cevoli


On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 00:34, Brendan Kidwell  wrote:
> The Windows builds of Zim 0.53 are ready to download. Thanks to Jaap and all
> other contributors for their hard work.
> http://www.glump.net/software/zim
> The Desktop Installer creates Start Menu shortcuts and shell launch
> integration for .zim files. The new Portable Installer based on
> PortableApps.com's toolchain creates no system-wide footprint and runs
> entirely from its installed folder. If you want to keep the executable on a
> thumbdrive or a network share, use the Portable version.
> If you installed a prerelease build of 0.53 for Windows, please reinstall
> from one of the installers published today!
>
> A note about the PortableApps.com tools: While I did use PortableApps.com's
> toolchain to build the portable installer (and save myself a lot of
> experimentation), I have not yet submitted the application to
> PortableApps.com. Surprisingly, there is no simple "submit a new
> application" form. You're expected to join the community, do the usual
> lurking, post a forum message in the "Beta releases" forum, and then hope
> that one of the catalog maintainers will pick up your project after people
> post positive comments. I suppose I can understand why they'd do it this
> way, but I expected something more like Freshmeat's workflow. Oh well. I'll
> be starting that process this week and if it ever goes anywhere I'll let you
> all know.
> Brendan Kidwell
>
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.53 for Windows available now

2011-09-20 Thread Colin Henderson
Brendan    thanks for all your diligence in taking care of this
conversion to Windows once again for this new release.  Many thanks, and
greatly appreciated.

Colin

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On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 18:34, Brendan Kidwell  wrote:

> The Windows builds of Zim 0.53 are ready to download. Thanks to Jaap and
> all other contributors for their hard work.
>
> http://www.glump.net/software/zim
>
> The Desktop Installer creates Start Menu shortcuts and shell launch
> integration for .zim files. The new Portable Installer based on
> PortableApps.com's toolchain creates no system-wide footprint and runs
> entirely from its installed folder. If you want to keep the executable on a
> thumbdrive or a network share, use the Portable version.
>
> If you installed a prerelease build of 0.53 for Windows, please reinstall
> from one of the installers published today!
>
> A note about the PortableApps.com tools: While I did use PortableApps.com's
> toolchain to build the portable installer (and save myself a lot of
> experimentation), I have not yet submitted the application to
> PortableApps.com. Surprisingly, there is no simple "submit a new
> application" form. You're expected to join the community, do the usual
> lurking, post a forum message in the "Beta releases" forum, and then hope
> that one of the catalog maintainers will pick up your project after people
> post positive comments. I suppose I can understand why they'd do it this
> way, but I expected something more like Freshmeat's workflow. Oh well. I'll
> be starting that process this week and if it ever goes anywhere I'll let you
> all know.
>
> Brendan Kidwell
>
>
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[Zim-wiki] Zim 0.53 for Windows available now

2011-09-20 Thread Brendan Kidwell
The Windows builds of Zim 0.53 are ready to download. Thanks to Jaap and all
other contributors for their hard work.

http://www.glump.net/software/zim

The Desktop Installer creates Start Menu shortcuts and shell launch
integration for .zim files. The new Portable Installer based on
PortableApps.com's toolchain creates no system-wide footprint and runs
entirely from its installed folder. If you want to keep the executable on a
thumbdrive or a network share, use the Portable version.

If you installed a prerelease build of 0.53 for Windows, please reinstall
from one of the installers published today!

A note about the PortableApps.com tools: While I did use PortableApps.com's
toolchain to build the portable installer (and save myself a lot of
experimentation), I have not yet submitted the application to
PortableApps.com. Surprisingly, there is no simple "submit a new
application" form. You're expected to join the community, do the usual
lurking, post a forum message in the "Beta releases" forum, and then hope
that one of the catalog maintainers will pick up your project after people
post positive comments. I suppose I can understand why they'd do it this
way, but I expected something more like Freshmeat's workflow. Oh well. I'll
be starting that process this week and if it ever goes anywhere I'll let you
all know.

Brendan Kidwell
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Re: [Zim-wiki] ZIm and handling of plain text files

2011-09-20 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 05:13, Anthony Thyssen
 wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 09:59:24 -0400
> Brendan Kidwell  wrote:
> | On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:01 AM, Anthony Thyssen
> | wrote:
> |
> | > I have looked at a lot of different 'text note browsers'.
> | >
> | > That is a way of storing simple notes that can be brought up on screen
> | > for making notes, cuting an pasting templates (code and so on), and
> | > storing those notes where I want them.
> | >
> | > Zim does all these things and I am quite happy with it -- mostly.
> | > It certainly beats a lot of other 'note browsers' I have looked at,
> | > including gnote and the newer 'postitnote' programs I checked out.
> | >
> | > The main failing with the others have been there heavy handed behaviour
> | > in text formatting or where or how the files are saved.
> | >
> | > I like and prefer to use PLAIN TEXT whenever posible.
> | >
> |
> | It sounds like you might be better served by an "Orthodox File Managers".
> | http://www.softpanorama.org/OFM/index.shtml
> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_manager#Orthodox_file_managers
> |
> | You want something with hierarchical directory browser and quick view/edit
> | function for text files -- preferably integrated into the main application
> | as a panel that doesn't go away.
> |
> | It's a bit of a long shot, but you -- I assume you're using a Unix -- might
> | want to try out ZTreeWin under WINE if you can run WINE. I can't find a
> | relevant screenshot at this time, but I know it has a mode where after you
> | choose a working directory, you can have a file list panel on the left and a
> | contents viewer on the right, and 'E' transitions to an editor window, or
> | something like that. (Incidentally I'm not sure I'd call ZTreeWin an OFM,
> | but it's in a related genre.)
> |
> | That having been said, I've had good luck pasting text from any source into
> | Zim and having it come out mostly unchanged. As the manual says, Zim
> | currently uses markup that requires at least two repeated characters to open
> | and close markup tags. If what I'm pasting is not semantically or visually
> | marked up to begin with, I'm usually fine.
> |
> | Brendan
>
> I agree with you, its ability to cut and paste cleanly and has been one
> of the major reasons for my use of zim (now 3 years or so).
>
> I just find it annoying that when making edits of plain text, it
> suddenly adds extra unwanted formatting.  Especially to the saved file,
> which I often access from the command line as well as from zim.
>
> I never really liked Orthodox File Managers, though I am much more of a
> command line user than a file manager user, I use both, often in
> conjunction.  As for using a more GUI filemanager (such as gnome
> nautilus), I also found access to these 'notes' less useful than via a
> dedicated program such as zim.
>
> However I'll have a try of ZTreeWin under wine
>
> I should have mentioned, that I am a UNIX user from way way back (late
> '80's) and while most of my editing is done using vim, for cut and paste
> of large block of text (often into a vim editor, email, or web form)
> I found best sourced from some GUI template popup, such as provided by
> zim.
>
>
>
> ASIDE: I use the plain text for many things
> + code blocks,  templates,
> + shell sequences (that need small tweeks for varying situation)
>
> one unusual example I use zim for is the copy-pasting of actual VIM
> keystrokes and
>
> For example
>
> :" Reformat all paragraphs
> QTgg}gqGgg}
>
> The :" is equivalent to a VIM command comment :-) the next line
> does the task described
>
> The hardest part of that technique is the inability to add an 'escape'
> character to vim sequences.
>
> In fact by creating a copy-paste sequence I can very very quickly
> edit 100's of files with specific or complex edits!  As a bonus
> the 'macro' is saved where I can see and find it again quickly.
>
> Everything from english text file conversions (such as one line
> paragraphs vs blank line end, 72 column paragraphs), to HTMLize
> or de-HTMLise files, to sorting, or even specific data conversions.
>
>
>
> In this type of work, any extra formatting just gets in the
> way. especially if I need to access remotely via ssh (command line)
> too.
>

Actually, you might want to look at these two KDE feature requests.
They request exactly what you are asking for:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=260773
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261081

Please comment in support of those two RFEs!

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Re: [Zim-wiki] building Zim version 0.53 release

2011-09-20 Thread Jaap Karssenberg
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Brendan Kidwell  wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Jaap Karssenberg <
> jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just uploaded the package for zim release 0.53 to the website.
>
>
> Jaap, I'm ready to do the Windows build, but I can't figure out what to
> build from. I don't see a "Zim 0.53" tag in lp:zim, and the source tarball
> on the web site doesn't have the ./windows folder in it. Can you tell me
> exactly which revision number in the repository to pull from? (Or am I doing
> something wrong?)
>

Probably it was not synced yet when you were pulling it, it is there now.

Otherwise pull from  http://www.zim-wiki.org/bzr/pyzim  which is the source
URL which lp is syncing from.

Regards,

Jaap
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