Re: [ZION] The Way The Internet Reads A Person's Lifestyle
At 10:35 PM 12/12/02 -0800, Stacy Smith wrote: Hi. Any idea why I am getting mail from vendors who: 1. Think I like wine when I don't touch a drop? 2. Think I am Fundamentalist Protestant when I'm not? 3. Send me objectionable "dirty" mail? 4. Want to consider me a home owner when I don't own a home? Because it is cheaper for them to spam every address they can find rather than keep records on who might actually be interested in their garbage and send it only to them. If only 1 person in 10,000 who gets a spam message replies, sending the message has paid for itself several times over. --Ronn! :) I always knew that I would see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed that I would see the last. --Dr. Jerry Pournelle // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[ZION] The Way The Internet Reads A Person's Lifestyle
Hi. Any idea why I am getting mail from vendors who: 1. Think I like wine when I don't touch a drop? 2. Think I am Fundamentalist Protestant when I'm not? 3. Send me objectionable "dirty" mail? 4. Want to consider me a home owner when I don't own a home? If I thought about it I could probably list more things the internet mailers have gotten wrong. I thought the internet had all my life secrets. I guess not. Stacy. // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] True Christians
Except for the fact that there are probably many Latter-day Saints who are just as likely going terrestrial as well. Stacy. At 04:51 PM 12/05/2002 -0900, you wrote: After much pondering, Paul Osborne favored us with: I look at it this way: There are two kinds of Christians; those who have the fullness and those who don't. Celestial Christians = Latter-day Saints Terrestrial Christians = Baptists, Catholics, and the rest In this way we can believe our General Authorities when they refer to other churches as "Christians" and still have the title of "true Christians" all to ourselves. How about that, JWR? Sounds good to me. I still prefer the terms "true Christian" and "false Christian." It stirs up more discussion. John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] === At present, the Book of Mormon is studied in our Sunday School and seminary classes every fourth year. This four-year pattern, however, must not be followed by Church members in their personal and family study. We need to read daily from the pages of the book that will get a man "nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book." (Ezra Taft Benson, October 1988) === All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.423 / Virus Database: 238 - Release Date: 11/25/2002 // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] JS quote
But we do some excommunications. Stacy. \At 05:47 AM 12/06/2002 +, you wrote: At this time, the truth on the guilty should not be told openly, strange as this may seem, yet this is a policy. We must use precaution in bringing sinners to justice, lest in exposing these heinous sins we draw the indignation of a Gentile world upon us (and, to their imagination, justly too). It is necessary to hold an influence in the world, and thus spare ourselves an extermination; and also accomplish our end in spreading the Gospel, or holiness, in the earth. If we were brought to desolation, the disobedient would find no help. There are some who are obedient, yet men cannot steady the arkmy arm cannot do itGod must steady it. To the iniquitous show yourselves merciful. I am advised by some of the heads of the Church to tell the Relief Society to be virtuous, but to save the Church from desolation and the sword; beware, be still, be prudent, repent, reform, but do it in a way not to destroy all around you. I do not want to cloak iniquityall things contrary to the will of God, should be cast from us, but don't do more hurt than good, with your tonguesbe pure in heart. Jesus designs to save the people out of their sins. Said Jesus, "Ye shall do the work, which ye see me do." These are the grand key-words for the society to act upon. If I were not in your midst to aid and counsel you, the devil would overcome you. I want the innocent to go freerather spare ten iniquitous among you, than condemn one innocent one. "Fret not thyself because of evildoers." God will see to it. (May 26, 1842.) DHC 5:19-21. (Joseph Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, selected and arranged by Joseph Fielding Smith [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1976], 239.) // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.423 / Virus Database: 238 - Release Date: 11/25/2002 // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^^=== This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^^===
RE: [ZION] Banning motorcycles
Dear Scott, I'm sorry I put the words "stairs" and "motorcycle" in the same sentence. I hope you get better soon. Fortunately, the part of you that got hurt shouldn't be too affected by laughter. But, if there is anyone on this list with a bruised or broken rib, they are probably ready to do me in right about now. Very truly yours, Larry Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [ZION] "heck" ain't cussin
The way I understood the entire thing is that it would be like splitting
water into its various forms but with each being capable of reacting
separately, something water can't do.
Stacy.
At 03:46 PM 12/12/2002 +, you wrote:
Stacy Smith wrote:
> I think that as a former Protestant I understood much about trinitarian
> theology and understood what it meant. I had very few vague ideas about
>
> the subject.
Could you explain it to me, then? In all my years in Southern Baptist,
and in all my wife's years in various Protestant churches, neither of us
thought it made sense. I thought it sounded like an accident with
Scotty's transporter. ("Aye, Cap'n -- we've accidently merged two life
forms again.")
*jeep!
--Chet
"Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you
are doing the impossible."
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Re: [ZION] Iran's Nukes
Hey, no fair! I can't send graphic images of my hands. Lol. Stacy. At 12:08 AM 12/13/2002 +, you wrote: May I see a show of hands of those who are surprised that there's been evidence since September? Now a show of hands that believe the facilities are for peaceful purposes? Y'know, after 1963, weren't we promised an entirely different kind of 21st century? Especially by the Jetsons? *jeep! --Chet "Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible." // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.423 / Virus Database: 238 - Release Date: 11/25/2002 // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] Animal sacrifice
>>> Paul graced us with >Are they declared Levites or Jews? What is the >patriarch suppose to do when a Jew joins the >church and says, "I'm a Levite too". One is either a Jew or a Levite, but not both. While a Levite may be classed as a "Jew" per se by the world at large, he is still a Levite, as far as I know. But then again, what do I know? :) Geoff // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[ZION] Iran's Nukes
May I see a show of hands of those who are surprised that there's been evidence since September? Now a show of hands that believe the facilities are for peaceful purposes? Y'know, after 1963, weren't we promised an entirely different kind of 21st century? Especially by the Jetsons? *jeep! --Chet "Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible." // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] Animal sacrifice
On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:42:17 -0600 Gary Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Actually, there are many Levites that have established their > genealogies > without a patriarchal blessing. Jews today are still rather diligent > in > ensuring their descendancy. Do you mean Jews who are Levites in the LDS church? Are they declared Levites or Jews? What is the patriarch suppose to do when a Jew joins the church and says, "I'm a Levite too". I'm confused. Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [ZION] Banning motorcycles
Scott McGee wrote: > See Scott. > See Scott's butt. Let's not and say we did. No, let's not even say we did. > Hurt, Scott, hurt. > See Scott's butt hurt. > > See Scott be sad. > Cry, Scott, cry. > > See Elf and Tom. > See Elf and Tom make fun of Scott's sore butt. > Laugh Elf and Tom, laugh. > See Scott be sad. Aw shucks, Scott. You know them two (nor I) are trying to make you sadder. Trying to get you to laugh off some of the hurt is more like it. If nothing else, go ahead and laugh at Elf and Tom. Me, I'll just sit here in the corner singing the Stubby Index Finger song. *jeep! --Chet "Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible." // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [ZION] Banning motorcycles
Scott wrote > See Scott's butt. > Hurt, Scott, hurt. > See Scott's butt hurt. Oh how painful where sidewalk tattooed it So we see why you've so much boo hooed it It may hurt you a lot When you fell on that spot But t'would hurt us far worse if we viewed it. So we weep for your fall on the stairs It hurts us, to be told, of your cares But you're safer by far Off that bike. In your car. Could it be that this fall answered prayers? Tom // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [ZION] Banning motorcycles
Elmer L. Fairbank wrote: > Sure blame it on the buttered cat .. gloating goats and glazed > groats > and grazed oats indeed! And little lambs eat ivy. A-deedle-dee-aiydee-doo, wouldn't you? *jeep! --Chet "Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible." // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [ZION] Banning motorcycles
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 10:30:03 -0700, "Tom Matkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Wow ELF, you really have it mixed up this time. Scott dripped some > butter on his stairs while longing to get over his grudge against > mountain goats grazing against two sure things. No no no no! Let me try again. See Scott. See Scott's stairs. See scott fall. Fall Scott, fall. See Scott fall down the stairs. See Scott. See Scott's butt. Hurt, Scott, hurt. See Scott's butt hurt. See Scott. See Scott's motorcycle. See Scott not riding his motorcycle. You can't ride, Scott, you can't ride. See Scott be sad. Cry, Scott, cry. See Elf and Tom. See Elf and Tom make fun of Scott's sore butt. Laugh Elf and Tom, laugh. See Scott be sad. Scott -- Buttered bread always lands butter side * Would YOU mistake these as down (Unless it sticks to the ceiling!) * anyone`s opinions but my own? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott McGee) Web: http://scott.themcgees.org/ -- http://fastmail.fm - Sent 0.02 seconds ago // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [ZION] Banning motorcycles
At 10:30 12/12/2002 -0700, Uncle Presidente wrote: Wow ELF, you really have it mixed up this time. Scott dripped some butter on his stairs while longing to get over his grudge against mountain goats grazing against two sure things. Sure blame it on the buttered cat .. gloating goats and glazed groats and grazed oats indeed! Till the beflumoxeder // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [ZION] Banning motorcycles
Wow ELF, you really have it mixed up this time. Scott dripped some butter on his stairs while longing to get over his grudge against mountain goats grazing against two sure things. Tom Cardston, Alberta www.matkin.com > -Original Message- > From: Elmer L. Fairbank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: December 12, 2002 9:49 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [ZION] Banning motorcycles > > At 12:24 12/12/2002 -0400, you wrote: > >You guys have it all WRONG! I sliped and fell down some stairs, injuring > >my butt so that I can not ride my newly aquired Motorcycle. My complaint > >is that I can't ride the thing. I sometimes go out into the garage just > >to gaze longingly at it. I tried riding it a week and a half ago and it > >REALLY HURT. Made my butt more sore again too! > > > >I have now had the motorcylce over a month and still can't ride it!! > > > OK, let's try again > > > You were sipping on the wrong stuff when Bishop Newly showed up on the > stairs, presently your countenance fell when he asked you to complain > about > your tithing and now you're sore afraid that you can't get that > motorcycle > you've been dreaming of plus now you're too weak, and half minded > to hurt the garbage man when he gazes longingly at you . > > > Did we get it this time??? You're right, this DOES hurt Have we > ridden this to death yet? Oh, my aching . > > > Till the ever helpful > > // > > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > // > /// > // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] Banning motorcycles
At 12:24 12/12/2002 -0400, you wrote: You guys have it all WRONG! I sliped and fell down some stairs, injuring my butt so that I can not ride my newly aquired Motorcycle. My complaint is that I can't ride the thing. I sometimes go out into the garage just to gaze longingly at it. I tried riding it a week and a half ago and it REALLY HURT. Made my butt more sore again too! I have now had the motorcylce over a month and still can't ride it!! OK, let's try again You were sipping on the wrong stuff when Bishop Newly showed up on the stairs, presently your countenance fell when he asked you to complain about your tithing and now you're sore afraid that you can't get that motorcycle you've been dreaming of plus now you're too weak, and half minded to hurt the garbage man when he gazes longingly at you . Did we get it this time??? You're right, this DOES hurt Have we ridden this to death yet? Oh, my aching . Till the ever helpful // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] Banning motorcycles
You guys have it all WRONG! I sliped and fell down some stairs, injuring my butt so that I can not ride my newly aquired Motorcycle. My complaint is that I can't ride the thing. I sometimes go out into the garage just to gaze longingly at it. I tried riding it a week and a half ago and it REALLY HURT. Made my butt more sore again too! I have now had the motorcylce over a month and still can't ride it!! Scott -- Buttered bread always lands butter side * Would YOU mistake these as down (Unless it sticks to the ceiling!) * anyone`s opinions but my own? Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott McGee) Web: http://scott.themcgees.org/ -- http://fastmail.fm - Access your email from home and the web // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [ZION] "heck" ain't cussin
Stacy Smith wrote:
> I think that as a former Protestant I understood much about trinitarian
> theology and understood what it meant. I had very few vague ideas about
>
> the subject.
Could you explain it to me, then? In all my years in Southern Baptist,
and in all my wife's years in various Protestant churches, neither of us
thought it made sense. I thought it sounded like an accident with
Scotty's transporter. ("Aye, Cap'n -- we've accidently merged two life
forms again.")
*jeep!
--Chet
"Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you
are doing the impossible."
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Re: [ZION] Banning motorcycles
I heard that his acceleration exceeded his motivation causing his posterior to pound the pavement. Reminds me of the time my throttle stuck wide open when I was climbing a sand dune near St. Anthony and my bike and I were launched over the crest of the dune into the cool evening air at about 40 mph. It took about 10 years for my tailbone to stop barking whenever I sat on it, especially on a motorcycle. Tom "Elmer L. Fairbank" wrote: > At 07:03 12/12/2002 +, Sir Chet wrote: > > >This accident you describe sounds worse though. How's that again? He > >rode his motorcycle down the stairs and accelerated his fall? > > I think he said he was chasing his tail on the steps and tripped over the > motorcycle, accelerating his downfall. > > Till the falling asleep > > // > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > / > // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] Banning motorcycles
At 07:03 12/12/2002 +, Sir Chet wrote: This accident you describe sounds worse though. How's that again? He rode his motorcycle down the stairs and accelerated his fall? I think he said he was chasing his tail on the steps and tripped over the motorcycle, accelerating his downfall. Till the falling asleep // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [ZION] "heck" ain't cussin
I think that as a former Protestant I understood much about trinitarian theology and understood what it meant. I had very few vague ideas about the subject. I was a much better Bible student than many of my fellow members. I can't say as much for the Book of Mormon but I am getting to know it better. Stacy. At 02:24 PM 12/09/2002 +, you wrote: Gary Smith wrote: > Most people don't understand well the doctrines of their church. That > includes LDS members, though the active ones probably understand our > basic tenets better than those of other churches. Most Trinitarians do > not understand the Trinity well (most believe in modalism, a few even > believe in the Godhead of separate beings). > Most people float around looking for a church that fits their social and > cultural strata, not their spiritual understanding. You describe my sister-in-law perfectly. But I hold one further belief, or hope. And that is that people disbelieve the doctrines of their churches not JUST out of laziness (though I'll never discount laziness) but because, deep in their souls, they remember who they are and where they came from. That's why (IMHO) the discussions were (at least to me) not so much LEARNING as BEING REMINDED. > Of course that > doesn't apply to us, as once you buy your house, you are pretty much > stuck with one ward. Until it splits. All seriousness aside, I'm pretty grateful that the Church is adament about educating its members about good, solid doctrine. No matter how amateurish or "hobby horse"-ish speakers at the pulpit may or may not be, the reading assignments for Gossip Doctrine, Relief Society, and Priesthood are "pound the basics into our heads." Only by becoming dictatorial can we force good doctrine further down people's throats -- short of that, we're still gonna have weak teachers and weak students. Yesterday's GD class, with a sub teacher, became a silly "I wouldn't"/"They taught us at MTC to" argument. > For many who enjoy family here, but are looking forward to playing harps > and singing in choirs in the next life, I think they will be totally > happy in the Terrestrial Kingdom. It will be far greater than anything > they can imagine a heaven being. Will they miss their families? Perhaps. > Or maybe they'll be happy seeing others in the same kingdom as friends, > brothers and sisters. Maybe. But there's something about being a neutered angel which just disturbs me, and always did -- had a lot to do with me rejecting Christianity-as-everyone-else-taught-it in my know-it-all college days. Perhaps it's as Benjamin Franklin indicated, when he wrote how a steer would be flattered to be called a bull but would be happier having restored to him what was rightfully his in the first place. > > If progression between kingdoms ends up being a possibility, perhaps it > becomes an incentive for those who desire to grow to eventually become > celestialized. I dunno. I think that it may be possible, just that it > would take them "worlds without end" (DC 131) to achieve it, meanwhile > those already in the kingdom would have advanced in kingdoms and > dominions and glory far beyond what any Terrestrial person could ever > imagine. As hard as it is for me to imagine someone being satisfied with being familyless and neutered, I find it even more unbelievable that someone would learn of the truth and then prefer to give into social pressure. Is the natural man and woman stuck in this high school mode, fearing peer pressure more than a loss of being oneself? *jeep! --Chet "Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible." // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.423 / Virus Database: 238 - Release Date: 11/25/2002 // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
