Re: [ZION] High Priests More Active Than Elders
>From what I've noticed here in my ward-- Prospective Elders: 98% Inactive* Elders: Seems like 25-30% Inactive, at least here High Priests: 5-10% Inactive, but it seems as if the inactivity occurs mainly for health reasons, such as an extended hospitalization As Paul O. noted, Prospective Elders are counted in the numbers for the Elders Quorum, regardless of the actual priesthood office the member has (if any). On that basis, the 50% inactivity rate for the entire Quorum sounds just about right. /Sandy/ (* The 2% in this category are invariably recent converts, and most of these don't remain Prospective Elders for very long, as they receive the Melchezidek Priesthood within months to perhaps over a year. The remaining 98% either dropped off the radar screen shortly after being baptised, or else fell away while they were still attending Aaronic Priesthood quorums.) / /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [ZION] High Priests More Active Than Elders
At 11:29 PM 10/23/02, Stephen Beecroft wrote: I do agree with at least one thing you've said: High priests are far more likely to be active than elders. Physically? ;-) --Ronn! :) I always knew that I would see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed that I would see the last. --Dr. Jerry Pournelle / /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] High Priests More Active Than Elders
>I have heard that half of all elders are inactive. But that fewer than 5 >percent of high priests are inactive. Can anyone here confirm or deny >this? Sounds about right. Keep in mind though that this also includes the perspective elders who never got ordained. Gee wizz. Now I feel like I'm in with the loosers. Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com / /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
RE: [ZION] High Priests More Active Than Elders
-John- > I have heard that half of all elders are inactive. But that > fewer than 5 percent of high priests are inactive. Can anyone > here confirm or deny this? I can't confirm or deny Church-wide, of course, but around here that's not the case. 50% is approximately right for the elders, probably a bit high, but 5% is definitely too low for the high priests. > I speculate that by the time a man is called to be a high > priest he has proven that his interest in the gospel is not > a temporary thing. Elders, because they are generally much > younger, have not lived long enough to demonstrate by their > record that they will remain active no matter what. Maybe in some places, but I doubt that's the case here. Of the six elder's quorum presidents I have had in Redmond, four have been over 40 years old. Of the other two, one was a recent convert of about 26 years of age, and the other was in his early 30s and was clearly being fast-tracked and groomed for administrative service (he's currently in the bishopric). Our elder's quorum has also, until very recently, included a very active brother in his 50s and several very active men in their 40s. They had long since "demonstrated by their record" their activity. But we live in a very active area with lots of leadership-quality men, and I suspect the local leaders prefer not to make men high priests just because they have turned 30 or 40 or 50 or whatever. Just my suspicions. I do agree with at least one thing you've said: High priests are far more likely to be active than elders. This is to be expected, since high priests are the leaders, and the leaders are usually selected from among the most active and faithful of the Saints (men). But that should not be considered a slight upon those faithful Saints of whatever age who are elders. Stephen / /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
[ZION] High Priests More Active Than Elders
At 03:08 PM, Wednesday, 10/23/02, Larry Jackson wrote: And while I'm here, I would also add that high priest is not a higher office in the Melchizedek Priesthood, just a different office, with specialized (and temporary) responsibilities. I have heard that half of all elders are inactive. But that fewer than 5 percent of high priests are inactive. Can anyone here confirm or deny this? We have loads of inactive elders in our ward, but we have not one single inactive high priest. Is that normal? And if so, why might that be? I speculate that by the time a man is called to be a high priest he has proven that his interest in the gospel is not a temporary thing. Elders, because they are generally much younger, have not lived long enough to demonstrate by their record that they will remain active no matter what. Of course, there are high priests that have fallen too, just not nearly as many per thousand. John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] === "I can image a world without war, a world without fear, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.' --Jack Handy === All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR / /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^