Re: [Zope] Rotating Zope Log Files on Windows

[Chris Withers]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am using Zope 2.5.0 (binary release, python 2.1, win32-x86), and the
python 2.1.3 distribution of from python.org as a service on a Windows 2000
server.


Any chance you could come out of the stone age?
Seriously, you're now 4 major point releases behind what's considered 
current...


I am thinking of using windows scheduler to run this every night at 
midnight.  But I wonder if anyone else worked on a similar solution and 
could pass along any advice.


I know Mark Hammond did some work on signal handling for Zope 2.9. There 
might be something useful there.


Failing that, logrotated in cygwin should do you fine. Remember to use 
copytruncate so you don't have to worry about re-openning log files...


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Re: [Zope] Debugging Zope on Windows

[Chris Withers]

Dieter Maurer wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote at 2006-3-31 14:47 -0700:

I am using Zope 2.5.0 (binary release, python 2.1, win32-x86), and the
python 2.1.3 distribution of from python.org as a service on a Windows 2000 
server.


I have heard that there is a way to debug zope and save error messages to a 
text file using the "STUPID_LOG_FILE" parameter however I'm not clear on how 
to implement this.


You use your OS way to set environment variables.
I think, Windows uses "set envvar=".


...and it'll need to go in runzope.bat, if 2.5 actually has that...

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Re: [Zope] single sign-on

[Chris Withers]

Stefan H. Holek wrote:
You may want to contact Netsight(.co.uk), they have a working NTLM auth 
system for Zope/Plone. It's not gratis though, AFAIK. It's also possible 
to use ActiveDirectory for both Windows and Zope (via LDAPUserFolder).


*mumble* *mumble* It works about 95% of the time. NTLM is the devils own 
faeces, avoid like the plague unless you're gonna get IIS to do the 
actual authentication...


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Re: [Zope] zope and nagios

[Chris Withers]

robert rottermann wrote:
nagios calls the intranet main page and checks if it finds "designed by 
redCOR" in the response.
Somehow a "not responding" (vs not running) zope does not trigger the 
nagios rule.


Maybe you have an error page somewhere which also contains those words?

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[Zope] pass variables in a form

[Dean Hale]

Hi,I hope this is the correct forum to add this query, and any help appreciated.I have the following zpt which pulls in the users userid - $uid and some text generated from a python script (myEV - $pass). It works fine however i need to pass the variables along in a form rather than a url. And i'm stuck.the zpt url    https://domain/siw_sso.signonUSER=$uid&TEXT=$pass" method="post">SSO test       the form needs to be in a format similar to belowhttps://domain/siw_sso.signon"> This is a test of hardcoded single-signon so somehow i need to pass something like belowhope this makes sense and is it possible?thank youdean    --- Dean Hale  Web Development Manager Library Services  University of Sunderland  w: https://my.sunderland.ac.uk  t: +44 (0) 191 515 2424 f: +44 (0) 191 515 2904  ___
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[Zope] Zope.org = Zope.com?

[Andreas Krasa]

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Hello everybody,

it seems that currently all HTTP requests to www.zope.org and
dev.zope.org are forwarded to www.zope.com.

I find it hard to believe that this is a desired behavior...

But if yes, where can Zope itself and Zope products be downloaded? The
Zope.com site contains tons of nice eye-candy and marketing-yadayada but
no resources for developers whatsoever.

Regards,
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Re: [Zope] Zope.org = Zope.com?

[Lennart Regebro]

On 4/3/06, Andreas Krasa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> it seems that currently all HTTP requests to www.zope.org and
> dev.zope.org are forwarded to www.zope.com.

Seems to work now. At least for me.

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Re: [Zope] Debugging Zope on Windows

[Lennart Regebro]

On 4/3/06, Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...and it'll need to go in runzope.bat, if 2.5 actually has that...

My memory of 2.5 is hazy, but I think it was called start.bat then.


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Re: [Zope] Zope.org = Zope.com?

[Chris Withers]

Lennart Regebro wrote:

On 4/3/06, Andreas Krasa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

it seems that currently all HTTP requests to www.zope.org and
dev.zope.org are forwarded to www.zope.com.


Seems to work now. At least for me.


This is still happening intermittently for some people.

Jim has raised it with the guys who host zope.org...

cheers,

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Re: [Zope] pass variables in a form

[Tino Wildenhain]

Dean Hale schrieb:


Hi,

I hope this is the correct forum to add this query, and any help 
appreciated.


I have the following zpt which pulls in the users userid - $uid and some 
text generated from a python script (myEV - $pass). It works fine 
however i need to pass the variables along in a form rather than a url. 
And i'm stuck.


the zpt url


tal:attributes="href 
string:https://domain/siw_sso.signonUSER=$uid&TEXT=$pass 
" method="post">SSO 
test
   


the form needs to be in a format similar to below

https://domain/siw_sso.signon";>
value="USER=ws0dha&HASH=daf768422238acd0899155a1757c9b5d">
 This is a test of hardcoded single-signon value="for ws0dha">



so somehow i need to pass something like below



hope this makes sense and is it possible?


Its possible but does not make sense. In HTML-forms
the element has a name which corresponds to the
variable name you get after form data evaluation
by the server. So in your case you really want:


 
 
 


(assumed you nicely pull out uid,pass and so on from your
python script)

btw, if you construct links with parameters, its by far nicer
to do this in your python script, using ZTUtils.make_query()

Regards
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[Zope] how to build a search date range parameter in a search form

[Lucia Colombo]

Hi all
I'm trying to build a search form which gets as an input a year and searches 
for all objects which have a (custom) date index set within such year. So after
having built a list 
of the available years to query on, I added in the search form:


   
id="getAnno"
   
tabindex=""
   
tal:attributes="tabindex tabindex/next;">


  

   
tal:attributes="value date_range" tal:content="year">
2000 






(getAnno is my custom date index)
but then I get into the query the string [“DateTime(‘2006/01/01’),
DateTime(‘2006/12/31’)”] instead of the list of dates.



Actually what I get is a syntaz error, as it is:


 
  
  getAnno
  
  
  {'query': ["[DateTime('2005/01/01'),
  DateTime('2005/12/31')]"], 'range': 'minmax'}
  
 



How do I get the parameter to be a list of dates?
thanks&bye
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[Zope] incorporating jmol into Zope

[gf]

Hi,
I am a Zope newbie and would really appreciate some help from
experienced Zope developers. I am trying to incorporate jmol (a
javascript molecule viewer: http://jmol.sourceforge.net/)  into some
web pages. I think that my confusion may have to do with the use of
'directory relative (../)' versus 'server relative (/)' versus
'absolute url (http://)' paths.

The instructions for jmol give an example as follows:


  
Simple example

  
  

  jmolInitialize("../jmol"); // REQUIRED
  jmolApplet(200, "load caffeine.xyz");

  


I have set up a folder in Zope for jmol's files (Jmol.js, JmolApplet.jar):
"root/javascript/jmol"

I have a Zope folder for the molecule files to be viewed:
"root/mycontent/images"

I have a dtml method for the actual view page:
root/mycontent/view_jmol

I would appreciate very much if someone could help translate the
example above using my Zope folder structure. I have tried many
variations, but they usually end up locking up the browser with a
'downloading applet' message.

Related to this is the following question: should I use use the actual
file names 'Jmol.js' , 'JmolApplet.jar' as their IDs, or should I use
'dotless' names and just set the correct file types?

Thanks for any help and advice you can give.

Best Regards,
gyro


>From the jmol website "General Recommendations":

- There is one directory on your web server that contains Jmol.js,
JmolApplet.jar, and any other jmol-specific files. For the purposes of
this discussion we will call this directory ../your-jmol-directory.

- Every web page within your site should refer to
../your-jmol-directory using a relative url.

- Directory relative paths which start with . or .. should always be
used. Server relative paths which start with / might be acceptable in
special circumstances. Absolute URLs which start with http:// are evil
and should never be used.

- Every page must contain the following HTML command in the head
section in order to include the Jmol.js library:

  
...

...
  
Every page must contain a call to jmolInitialize(codebaseDirectory) as
the first call into the Jmol.js library.
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[Zope] python 2.4.3

[David Bear]

Since python 2.4.3 has just been released, are there any
comments/recommendatiosn about running zope 2.9.2 with that version?
The zope site and installed docs recommend python 2.4.2, but it appears
the 2.4.3 is a nice bug fix release. it would be nice to be able to use
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Re: [Zope] how to build a search date range parameter in a search form

[Dieter Maurer]

Lucia Colombo wrote at 2006-4-3 17:49 +0200:
>I'm trying to build a search form which gets as an input a year and searches
>
>for all objects which have a (custom) date index set within such year.
> ...
>How do I get the parameter to be a list of dates?

You determine start and end date inside a Python script from the
integer "year" form variable. Then, you form a sequence
(list or tuple) from the two dates.

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Re: [Zope] python 2.4.3

[Andreas Jung]

--On 3. April 2006 11:34:52 -0700 David Bear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Since python 2.4.3 has just been released, are there any
comments/recommendatiosn about running zope 2.9.2 with that version? The
zope site and installed docs recommend python 2.4.2, but it appears the
2.4.3 is a nice bug fix release. it would be nice to be able to use it.


Zope 2.9.2 was out before Python 2.4.3 so you can not expect to be a 
supported version so far. I doubt that the bugfixes will influcence the 
funcitonality of Zope.


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Re: [Zope] python 2.4.3

[Chris Withers]

Andreas Jung wrote:


Zope 2.9.2 was out before Python 2.4.3 so you can not expect to be a 
supported version so far. I doubt that the bugfixes will influcence the 
funcitonality of Zope.


Andreas, this is a bit silly really.

Come on, there's no reason to go scare mongering about Python 2.4.3. 
Using it with Zope should be just fine, or you wouldn't have marked it 
as an acceptable version on the 2.9 branch in the last few days, would 
you? ;-)


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RE: [Zope] single sign-on

[Fernando Martins]

David H wrote:
> Robert,
>
> You can python + COM your way to a browser startup zope/plone login
> screen.  I cannot see how you automate the authentication of a given
> browser instance that is then handed to your users.
>

Hmm, that's not automation in this sense. The user logins into the
workstation (Windows, don't know about unix), the user opens the browser and
accesses an INTRANET page. The browser (IE or Firefox with NTLM setup) will
then send authentication information to the Intranet server using the NTLM
protocol. The web server (Apache with NTLM module) checks with some internal
Domain server and sets the environmental variable REMOTE_USER. This is then
sent to a CGI or FastCGI app (zope with FastCGI).

> Maybe someone will correct this.  If so everyone's happy.

Yes, local Intranet users love this, one less login, automatic recognition,
personalisation, instant gratification,... ;-)

Cheers,
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[Zope] External Methods

[Dennis Allison]

When Zope is run in production (as opposed to debug) mode, modifications 
to External Methods are not sensed.  What's the programatic way to get 
them all refreshed?

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Re: [Zope] External Methods

[Chris Withers]

Dennis Allison wrote:
When Zope is run in production (as opposed to debug) mode, modifications 
to External Methods are not sensed.  What's the programatic way to get 
them all refreshed?


Click the edit button on the external method object.

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Re: [Zope] External Methods

[Dennis Allison]

Too many and too hard to remember where they are.  I have writen a 
FindAndApply external method that uses reloadIfChanged().



On Mon, 3 Apr 2006, Chris Withers wrote:

> Dennis Allison wrote:
> > When Zope is run in production (as opposed to debug) mode, modifications 
> > to External Methods are not sensed.  What's the programatic way to get 
> > them all refreshed?
> 
> Click the edit button on the external method object.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Chris
> 
> 

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Re: [Zope] External Methods

[Chris Withers]

Dennis Allison wrote:
Too many and too hard to remember where they are.  I have writen a 
FindAndApply external method that uses reloadIfChanged().


*shrugs*

If you already had a solution, then why on earth did you bother asking?

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Re: [Zope] External Methods

[Dennis Allison]

Figured it out after the fact  :-(
and have not yet tested it before posting it as a solution

On Mon, 3 Apr 2006, Chris Withers wrote:

> Dennis Allison wrote:
> > Too many and too hard to remember where they are.  I have writen a 
> > FindAndApply external method that uses reloadIfChanged().
> 
> *shrugs*
> 
> If you already had a solution, then why on earth did you bother asking?
> 
> Chris
> 
> 

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[Zope] Re: Question about Zope and security

[Cyrille Bonnet]

Hi Dieter,

thanks for your response. It helps a lot.

It looks like DigestAuth is a step in the right direction, but needs 
more work to be completely secure.


I'll get back to my client and see where they want to go from here.

Thx for your help.

Cheers,

Cyrille

Dieter Maurer wrote:

Cyrille Bonnet wrote at 2006-3-30 14:43 +1200:


...
I did find Dieter Mauer's DigestAuth product: 
http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/#DigestAuth


It looks good. I have used other produts from Dieter before and was very 
pleased with the quality of his code.


Now, have other people used it? Does it work with WebDAV?



It should work with WebDAV, provided the WebDAV client supports
HTTP Digest Authentication.


How secure is 
it (I am no security/encryption expert)?



The corresponding RFC (RFC 2617) explains in detail how
secure the basic mechanism is.

My "DigestAuth DigestAuthCrumber" adds a bit of insecurity:

  *  the passwords must be stored (inside Zope (!) not in the request)
 in plain text.

 This could be improved a bit, either by

   - using two way encryption -- but Zope must be able to get
 the plain text password back.

   - fixing the domain and using storing the "MD5" hash
 of username, password and domain instead of the
 plain text password.

 Other authentication schemes would then need to
 be changed -- to use the same "MD5" hash.



Also, if it is good, why is not part of default Zope??




There are two sides of an answer: the Zope developpers/maintainers side
and my side.

Adding even a good package to the core means a (rather) long term
commitment to support and maintain this package. When you
follow "comp.lang.python" (or the corresponding mailing list),
you see how reluctant the Python developpers are to include
additional packages into the Python core -- to avoid these
responsibilities. The Zope maintainers are even stricter: they
look what they can get rid of rather than what they can include

On my side: developping for the Zope core imposes much more overhead
than developping independently: I would have to make a proposal,
follow (partially stupid) style guides, add more tests (than
necessary to convince me that the quality is sufficient)...
Thus, I am reluctant to develop for the Zope core.



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[Zope] Re: External Methods

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Dennis Allison wrote:
> When Zope is run in production (as opposed to debug) mode, modifications 
> to External Methods are not sensed.  What's the programatic way to get 
> them all refreshed?

Not a use case for production servers.  Your best bet is:

 #!/bin/sh
 /path/to/zope/instance/bin/zopectl restart

on each instance.

If you know the path of a specific EM, then you can write a script which
forces it to reload, e.g.:

  # Reload a given script
  app.path.to.external_method.reloadIfChanged()

which you will again need to to on each instance (the compiled code is
not persisted to the ZODB).


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Re: [Zope] python 2.4.3

[Andreas Jung]

--On 3. April 2006 21:10:50 +0100 Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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Andreas Jung wrote:


Zope 2.9.2 was out before Python 2.4.3 so you can not expect to be a
supported version so far. I doubt that the bugfixes will influcence the
funcitonality of Zope.



Come on, there's no reason to go scare mongering about Python 2.4.3.


huh? :-) I just wanted to say that using a newer _minor_ Python version 
was really never a problem. And the time of 2.9.3 will of course support 
Python 2.4.3 but 2.9.3 is not on the roadmap so far.


-aj


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Re: [Zope] External Methods

[Tino Wildenhain]

Dennis Allison wrote:
> Too many and too hard to remember where they are.  I have writen a 
> FindAndApply external method that uses reloadIfChanged().

Well if too many, why not go to full external products?

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Tino
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