[Zope] Re: Plone/Zope on Debian Sarge
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 02:02:43PM +0100, Chris Withers wrote:
| The moral of this whole story seems to shine through:
|
| Don't install Zope from OS packages like debian, they never get it right
| and you will just end up getting confused ;-)
Never say never. The problem with debian is the former zope
maintainers are no longer maintaining the packages and only very
recently has a replacement stepped up to update the packages and
resolve the outstanding issues. The current situation is filled with
bit-rot, but before that began the packages were just fine. It would
seem, too, that the bit-rot will recede in the near future. In the
meantime, I would recommend using the upstream source for
installation.
-D
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Re: [Zope] Re: Plone/Zope on Debian Sarge
On 05.Apr 2005 - 12:01:14, Derrick Hudson wrote: On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 02:02:43PM +0100, Chris Withers wrote: | The moral of this whole story seems to shine through: | | Don't install Zope from OS packages like debian, they never get it right | and you will just end up getting confused ;-) The current situation is filled with bit-rot, ?? bit-rot? but before that began the packages were just fine. It would seem, too, that the bit-rot will recede in the near future. In the meantime, I would recommend using the upstream source for installation. As I said, if you install zope27 you get a message what to do next to get the instance up and running. The same with plone. The only drawback at the moment is, that you need to change the zope.conf to get some packages to work with zope27. This will probably change when Debian finally drops zope26 (I don't understand why they keep it anyway...) Andreas -- Tuesday After Lunch is the cosmic time of the week. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: Plone/Zope on Debian Sarge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Bittner wrote: I am running a Debian Linux box with Debian/testing (Sarge) and I am trying to get Plone up and running. I have made a clean, new install of the whole system last week, so all packages are really up-to-date and there was no dirty installation that was updated. I have noticed that the Plone package on Debian is or was somewhat broken, but there was a notice about that on the Plone website (download page) which has disappeared. For me that looked like this problem was fixed by the package maintainer. Unfortunately still, after installing Plone (and implicitly thus Zope 2.7) Zope did not want to come up, saying: Zope starting all instances '*' is an old/purged instance, not started What is wrong here? You need to supply more detail, like showing the exact working directory, comand lines, etc. you used, and the full traceback, if any. Also note that the Debian maintainer should probably be your first line of contact: very few folks on this list are likely to grok the details of packaging for Debian. I know I have to set up a new Plone site (obviously using the Zope interface at http://localhost:9673), but how can I when Zope is not running. Any help is greatly appreciated! Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver[EMAIL PROTECTED] Zope Corporation Zope Dealers http://www.zope.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCTWNCGqWXf00rNCgRAioBAJ9TjpjdUT9dvzS88pYt+h3+qHLfWgCffyhs 0WUBtrHLRi4YSJzl+XF0ZOA= =l//E -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: Plone/Zope on Debian Sarge
google search for your error message yielded: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2005-January/155790.html If you did an 'apt-get install plone' it's still trying to pull in Zope 2.6. What I ended up doing was to uninstall plone and then 'apt-get install zope2.7', create my default instance w/ mkzopeinstance.py (installed to /var/lib/zope2.7/instance/default) and then just dropped the Plone, etc packages into my /instances/default/Producs folder. Shane On Apr 1, 2005 10:05 AM, Tres Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Bittner wrote: I am running a Debian Linux box with Debian/testing (Sarge) and I am trying to get Plone up and running. I have made a clean, new install of the whole system last week, so all packages are really up-to-date and there was no dirty installation that was updated. I have noticed that the Plone package on Debian is or was somewhat broken, but there was a notice about that on the Plone website (download page) which has disappeared. For me that looked like this problem was fixed by the package maintainer. Unfortunately still, after installing Plone (and implicitly thus Zope 2.7) Zope did not want to come up, saying: Zope starting all instances '*' is an old/purged instance, not started What is wrong here? You need to supply more detail, like showing the exact working directory, comand lines, etc. you used, and the full traceback, if any. Also note that the Debian maintainer should probably be your first line of contact: very few folks on this list are likely to grok the details of packaging for Debian. I know I have to set up a new Plone site (obviously using the Zope interface at http://localhost:9673), but how can I when Zope is not running. Any help is greatly appreciated! Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver[EMAIL PROTECTED] Zope Corporation Zope Dealers http://www.zope.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCTWNCGqWXf00rNCgRAioBAJ9TjpjdUT9dvzS88pYt+h3+qHLfWgCffyhs 0WUBtrHLRi4YSJzl+XF0ZOA= =l//E -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- http://liquid.homelinux.org/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: Plone/Zope on Debian Sarge
On 01.Apr 2005 - 10:14:36, Shane Graber wrote: google search for your error message yielded: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope/2005-January/155790.html If you did an 'apt-get install plone' it's still trying to pull in Zope 2.6. That's not correct, current Plone will favor zope27 over zope package, you can see that in the dependecies. However, the Plone Product(s) will still be installed in a path where the old Zope2.6 will find it and thus are not automatically seen by Zope2.7. Anyway, how this can be changed and how to setup the 2.7 zope is explained via debconf-pages during the installation of zope27 and plone and even when you disable debconf, you can still do RTFM in /usr/share/doc/(zope|plone). I tried it lately and it took about 5 Minutes to get both zope27 and plone up and running (including installtion via apt-get). Andreas -- You will be traveling and coming into a fortune. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
