Re: [Zope] The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-21 Thread Stephan Richter
On Monday 20 February 2006 20:09, Andrew Milton wrote:
> So in order to even get your Open Source package LISTED, you have to sign
> over the rights of your code to Zope Corp (currently, Zope Foundation
> later), and then check it into the svn respository.
>
> Is this is correct?

NO! ABSOLUTELY NOT!

The ZSCP is totally disconnected from the Common Repository. Note that the 
ZSCP does not talk about any repositories or technical implementation. It 
only talks about the certification goals, requirements and data.

> So you're proposing that the Zope Foundation will not 
> even mention other Open Source code that isn't actually owned and
> controlled by the Zope Foundation?

Huh? Where did you get this idea from? Did you actually read the proposal?

> Having a standard Zope package format would be far far more useful to the
> users at large, along with the associated tools (so developers can create
> compliant zope packages, and users can install packages actually using
> Zope). Packaging tools can then enforce certain restrictions automatically
> and create a manifest.

We cannot require something that we do not have. Thus I did not address 
packaging or strong dependency meta-data in the proposal. I think once we 
investigated eggs and have some initial implementation, the proposal will be 
updated in light of this.

> If you had that, then that would certainly ease adding 'stuff' to the
> 'certified' repository, getting to LISTED level would be automatic.

Becoming listed will be a nearly automated process. Also receiving level 1 and 
2 will be quick decisions. This is clearly stated in section 2.8.

I have added a questions to the Q&A section clearly stating that the ZSCP does 
not require packages in the Common Repository.

Regards,
Stephan
-- 
Stephan Richter
CBU Physics & Chemistry (B.S.) / Tufts Physics (Ph.D. student)
Web2k - Web Software Design, Development and Training
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Re: [Zope] The Zope Software Certification Program and Common Repository Proposal

2006-02-20 Thread Andrew Milton
+---[ Stephan Richter ]--
| Hello everyone,
| 
| With the development of Zope 3, the Zope developers committed to a new 
| development process and higher software quality guidelines. With the adoption 
| of Zope 3 technologies in the wider Zope community, we should also start 
| using the process for third party package development.
| 
| I have spent the last two weeks working on a proposal that defines a Zope 
| Software Certification Program (ZSCP) and a Common Repository that implements 
| this process. The proposal is attached to this mail. I welcome any comments 
| about it!

So in order to even get your Open Source package LISTED, you have to sign over 
the rights of your code to Zope Corp (currently, Zope Foundation later), and 
then
check it into the svn respository. 

Is this is correct? So you're proposing that the Zope Foundation will not even 
mention other Open Source code that isn't actually owned and controlled by the 
Zope Foundation?

I think there needs to be some other certification process that doesn't
require the code to be owned by someone other than the original authors.

Having a standard Zope package format would be far far more useful to the users 
at 
large, along with the associated tools (so developers can create compliant
zope packages, and users can install packages actually using Zope). Packaging
tools can then enforce certain restrictions automatically and create a
manifest.

If you had that, then that would certainly ease adding 'stuff' to the
'certified' repository, getting to LISTED level would be automatic.

You might want to change the word Certification to Compliance. So, a package
Complies with the Common Repository Standards, rather than is Certified By
Zope Foundation. Certification implies a level of dilligence I don't think is
actually being applied by this proposal.

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Andrew Milton
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