Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)

2000-06-06 Thread Harald Ragger

Jason Spisak asked:
> Do you mean that zope wouldn't restart? Even if you restarted the server?

Yes, zope didnt restart:-(  but i'm not sure if its a problem with zope or
just with the ms-cluster server.



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Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)

2000-06-05 Thread Jason Spisak

Harald Ragger writes:

> Jason, Rob:
> 
> Ive just seen your mails, and thought uuups!
> One of my customers is using zope (2.1.4; ms cluster server; nt4 basis).
> Zope has been running fine for more than three months, but on 1st of June it
> crashed, and didn't came up again (no response from server even the zope
> services seemed to be up and running). every minute or so, we got the
> following message in the event-view: restarting zope.

Do you mean that zope wouldn't restart? Even if you restarted the server?

> The only chance I saw to bring Zope up again, was to reinstall the whole
> thing, and use the backed up Data.fs file.
> So far so good, its now running again, all data is ok, nothing lost.
> But:
> whats the reason for this? i simply have no idea (logs didnt show anything
> relevant as far as i understand). 
>why i thought uups, was because of the
> same time this happend to me as to you (you also use 2.1.4). could it be a
> problem with 2.1.4? should we consider to upgrade to 2.1.6?
> 

It's worth a shot.  I don't have any installations running on 2.1.4.  Just
2.1.1 and 2.1.6.

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Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)

2000-06-05 Thread Harald Ragger

Jason, Rob:

Ive just seen your mails, and thought uuups!
One of my customers is using zope (2.1.4; ms cluster server; nt4 basis).
Zope has been running fine for more than three months, but on 1st of June it
crashed, and didn't came up again (no response from server even the zope
services seemed to be up and running). every minute or so, we got the
following message in the event-view: restarting zope.
The only chance I saw to bring Zope up again, was to reinstall the whole
thing, and use the backed up Data.fs file.
So far so good, its now running again, all data is ok, nothing lost.
But:
whats the reason for this? i simply have no idea (logs didnt show anything
relevant as far as i understand). why i thought uups, was because of the
same time this happend to me as to you (you also use 2.1.4). could it be a
problem with 2.1.4? should we consider to upgrade to 2.1.6?

regards
Harald

- Original Message -
From: "Jason Spisak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)


> Rob Sporleder writes:
>
> > The shell was on my local machine...
> >
>
> That's the same as tryinga browser for network purposes.  Can you try
> bringing up a shell on the server next time and try a wget
> http://localhost:8080, and see if it returns anything.  If so, the Zope is
> fine and it's that other stuff, like network cards etc...
>
> > BigBrother is the monitoring software we use. The client is installed on
the
> > same server as Zope.
> >
> > When viewing the log files there were no connections made by BigBrother
> > (checking for http connections). However, there were many hits from
outside
> > IP's.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rob
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jason Spisak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 10:17 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)
> >
> >
> > Rob Sporleder writes:
> >
> > > It was the command line within the shell.
> >
> > Was it the shell on the 'server' serving zope or a shell on your local
> > admin machine?
> >
> > >Actually, I've found something
> > > that's interesting...
> > >
> > > The system clock is an hour slow.
> >
> > They get behind easily if your not using an time server somewhere.
> >
> > >The logs are written 6 hours ahead.
> >
> > I have no idea on that.
> >
> > >I
> > > greped the log file for BigBrother and found an hour gap with no
> > BigBrother
> >
> > Is BigBrother the Zope server?
> >
> > > entries from 06:37:53 and 07:40:23, roughly the time that the site
seemed
> > to
> > > go down. However, during this time there were hundreds of successful
hits
> > to
> > > the site.
> >
> > What told you there were successful hits? The Zope log?  If
understanding
> > you, you are seeing confilcting things in 2 logs. One log says there was
> > successfull hit, and the other shows nothing for that time.  Is this
close?
> >
> > >
> > > Rob Sporleder writes:
> > >
> > > > All of the python z2.py processes are still running. I haven't
checked
> > if
> > > I
> > > > can get to it using http://localhost. The server is offsite.
However, I
> > > did
> > > > try an http get from the command line and it did not respond.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Was it the command line on the server?
> > > from the server shell:
> > >
> > > $>wget http://localhost:8080
> > >
> > > I'm trying to narrow it down to the real culprit.  We can't be sure
it's
> > > Zope and not the DNS/Machine/Routing/Firewall/ or anything else.
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Jason Spisak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 1:13 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going
down)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rob Sporleder:
> > > >
> > > > > I received a server not responding error. We lost connectivity
twice
> > on
> > > > > Friday as well. I setup a script to restart the server every X
minutes
> > > so
> > > > we
> > > 

Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)

2000-06-02 Thread Jason Spisak

Rob Sporleder writes:

> The shell was on my local machine...
> 

That's the same as tryinga browser for network purposes.  Can you try
bringing up a shell on the server next time and try a wget
http://localhost:8080, and see if it returns anything.  If so, the Zope is
fine and it's that other stuff, like network cards etc...

> BigBrother is the monitoring software we use. The client is installed on the
> same server as Zope.
> 
> When viewing the log files there were no connections made by BigBrother
> (checking for http connections). However, there were many hits from outside
> IP's.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rob
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Spisak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 10:17 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)
> 
> 
> Rob Sporleder writes:
> 
> > It was the command line within the shell.
> 
> Was it the shell on the 'server' serving zope or a shell on your local
> admin machine?
> 
> >Actually, I've found something
> > that's interesting...
> >
> > The system clock is an hour slow.
> 
> They get behind easily if your not using an time server somewhere.
> 
> >The logs are written 6 hours ahead.
> 
> I have no idea on that.
> 
> >I
> > greped the log file for BigBrother and found an hour gap with no
> BigBrother
> 
> Is BigBrother the Zope server?
> 
> > entries from 06:37:53 and 07:40:23, roughly the time that the site seemed
> to
> > go down. However, during this time there were hundreds of successful hits
> to
> > the site.
> 
> What told you there were successful hits? The Zope log?  If understanding
> you, you are seeing confilcting things in 2 logs. One log says there was
> successfull hit, and the other shows nothing for that time.  Is this close?
> 
> >
> > Rob Sporleder writes:
> >
> > > All of the python z2.py processes are still running. I haven't checked
> if
> > I
> > > can get to it using http://localhost. The server is offsite. However, I
> > did
> > > try an http get from the command line and it did not respond.
> > >
> >
> > Was it the command line on the server?
> > from the server shell:
> >
> > $>wget http://localhost:8080
> >
> > I'm trying to narrow it down to the real culprit.  We can't be sure it's
> > Zope and not the DNS/Machine/Routing/Firewall/ or anything else.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Jason Spisak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 1:13 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)
> > >
> > >
> > > Rob Sporleder:
> > >
> > > > I received a server not responding error. We lost connectivity twice
> on
> > > > Friday as well. I setup a script to restart the server every X minutes
> > so
> > > we
> > > > wouldn't have to worry about it over the weekend. I removed the
> cronjob
> > on
> > > > Tuesday morning and it was fine until early Wednesday morning when it
> > went
> > > > down three times in 30 minutes.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Rob
> > > >
> > >
> > > Wow. Ugly.  Are the Zope processes still up after you've lost
> > connectivity?
> > >  If so, can you get a browser on the machine running zope to access it?
> > > http://localhost:8080, or whatever port your running on.
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Jason
> > > > Spisak
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 12:10 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rob Sporleder:
> > > >
> > > > > For reasons unknown we lost http connectivity to our Zope server
> three
> > > > times
> > > > > last night.
> > > >
> > > > When you say lost connectivity, do you mean the browsers gave you back
> a
> > > > 'Server Not Resonding' message, or was is as if Zope was just spinning
> > > it's
> > > > wheels?  If it was the latter, how long did you wait to see if yo

RE: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)

2000-06-02 Thread Rob Sporleder

The shell was on my local machine...

BigBrother is the monitoring software we use. The client is installed on the
same server as Zope.

When viewing the log files there were no connections made by BigBrother
(checking for http connections). However, there were many hits from outside
IP's.

Thanks,
Rob

-Original Message-
From: Jason Spisak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 10:17 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)


Rob Sporleder writes:

> It was the command line within the shell.

Was it the shell on the 'server' serving zope or a shell on your local
admin machine?

>Actually, I've found something
> that's interesting...
>
> The system clock is an hour slow.

They get behind easily if your not using an time server somewhere.

>The logs are written 6 hours ahead.

I have no idea on that.

>I
> greped the log file for BigBrother and found an hour gap with no
BigBrother

Is BigBrother the Zope server?

> entries from 06:37:53 and 07:40:23, roughly the time that the site seemed
to
> go down. However, during this time there were hundreds of successful hits
to
> the site.

What told you there were successful hits? The Zope log?  If understanding
you, you are seeing confilcting things in 2 logs. One log says there was
successfull hit, and the other shows nothing for that time.  Is this close?

>
> Rob Sporleder writes:
>
> > All of the python z2.py processes are still running. I haven't checked
if
> I
> > can get to it using http://localhost. The server is offsite. However, I
> did
> > try an http get from the command line and it did not respond.
> >
>
> Was it the command line on the server?
> from the server shell:
>
> $>wget http://localhost:8080
>
> I'm trying to narrow it down to the real culprit.  We can't be sure it's
> Zope and not the DNS/Machine/Routing/Firewall/ or anything else.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jason Spisak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 1:13 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)
> >
> >
> > Rob Sporleder:
> >
> > > I received a server not responding error. We lost connectivity twice
on
> > > Friday as well. I setup a script to restart the server every X minutes
> so
> > we
> > > wouldn't have to worry about it over the weekend. I removed the
cronjob
> on
> > > Tuesday morning and it was fine until early Wednesday morning when it
> went
> > > down three times in 30 minutes.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Rob
> > >
> >
> > Wow. Ugly.  Are the Zope processes still up after you've lost
> connectivity?
> >  If so, can you get a browser on the machine running zope to access it?
> > http://localhost:8080, or whatever port your running on.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Jason
> > > Spisak
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 12:10 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability
> > >
> > >
> > > Rob Sporleder:
> > >
> > > > For reasons unknown we lost http connectivity to our Zope server
three
> > > times
> > > > last night.
> > >
> > > When you say lost connectivity, do you mean the browsers gave you back
a
> > > 'Server Not Resonding' message, or was is as if Zope was just spinning
> > it's
> > > wheels?  If it was the latter, how long did you wait to see if you did
> get
> > > a response? 1 minute, 10, 30?
> > >
> > > >I've checked the http logs and, as I suspected, didn't find
> > > > anything unusual around the time we lost connectivity. The Python
> > > processes
> > > > are still running and everything looks normal except for the
> > connectivity
> > > > problem. Does anybody have any idea what might be causing this? I
> > haven't
> > > > found anything.
> > > >
> > >
> > > This happened to me, but it caused a single process to chew CPU.
Since
> > you
> > > noticed no such chewing, I'll bet it's not the DTML decapitation bug.
> > >
> > > > Here are some specifics about our setup...
> > > >
> > > > version of python:
> > > > 1.5.2
> > > >

Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)

2000-06-02 Thread Jason Spisak

Rob Sporleder writes:

> It was the command line within the shell. 

Was it the shell on the 'server' serving zope or a shell on your local
admin machine?

>Actually, I've found something
> that's interesting...
> 
> The system clock is an hour slow. 

They get behind easily if your not using an time server somewhere. 

>The logs are written 6 hours ahead. 

I have no idea on that.

>I
> greped the log file for BigBrother and found an hour gap with no BigBrother

Is BigBrother the Zope server?

> entries from 06:37:53 and 07:40:23, roughly the time that the site seemed to
> go down. However, during this time there were hundreds of successful hits to
> the site.  

What told you there were successful hits? The Zope log?  If understanding
you, you are seeing confilcting things in 2 logs. One log says there was
successfull hit, and the other shows nothing for that time.  Is this close?

> 
> Rob Sporleder writes:
> 
> > All of the python z2.py processes are still running. I haven't checked if
> I
> > can get to it using http://localhost. The server is offsite. However, I
> did
> > try an http get from the command line and it did not respond.
> >
> 
> Was it the command line on the server?
> from the server shell:
> 
> $>wget http://localhost:8080
> 
> I'm trying to narrow it down to the real culprit.  We can't be sure it's
> Zope and not the DNS/Machine/Routing/Firewall/ or anything else.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jason Spisak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 1:13 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)
> >
> >
> > Rob Sporleder:
> >
> > > I received a server not responding error. We lost connectivity twice on
> > > Friday as well. I setup a script to restart the server every X minutes
> so
> > we
> > > wouldn't have to worry about it over the weekend. I removed the cronjob
> on
> > > Tuesday morning and it was fine until early Wednesday morning when it
> went
> > > down three times in 30 minutes.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Rob
> > >
> >
> > Wow. Ugly.  Are the Zope processes still up after you've lost
> connectivity?
> >  If so, can you get a browser on the machine running zope to access it?
> > http://localhost:8080, or whatever port your running on.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jason
> > > Spisak
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 12:10 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability
> > >
> > >
> > > Rob Sporleder:
> > >
> > > > For reasons unknown we lost http connectivity to our Zope server three
> > > times
> > > > last night.
> > >
> > > When you say lost connectivity, do you mean the browsers gave you back a
> > > 'Server Not Resonding' message, or was is as if Zope was just spinning
> > it's
> > > wheels?  If it was the latter, how long did you wait to see if you did
> get
> > > a response? 1 minute, 10, 30?
> > >
> > > >I've checked the http logs and, as I suspected, didn't find
> > > > anything unusual around the time we lost connectivity. The Python
> > > processes
> > > > are still running and everything looks normal except for the
> > connectivity
> > > > problem. Does anybody have any idea what might be causing this? I
> > haven't
> > > > found anything.
> > > >
> > >
> > > This happened to me, but it caused a single process to chew CPU.  Since
> > you
> > > noticed no such chewing, I'll bet it's not the DTML decapitation bug.
> > >
> > > > Here are some specifics about our setup...
> > > >
> > > > version of python:
> > > > 1.5.2
> > > >
> > > > operating system:
> > > > Linux 2.2.12-20smp (Redhat 6.1)
> > > >
> > > > services running on machine:
> > > > MySQL
> > > > 2 instances of Zope
> > > > Python
> > > >
> > > > machine specifics:
> > > >
> > > > CPU: 0.04
> > > > MEM: 31M of 512M
> > > > Swap: 528688K free
> > > > Disk Space: GB's available on all partitions
> > > >

RE: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)

2000-06-01 Thread Rob Sporleder

Thanks for the info. I'll be reading through it.

In the meantime we're using a script that checks for http connectivity. If
the site doesn't respond it restarts the server.

--Rob

-Original Message-
From: Marcus Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 1:24 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)


> -Original Message-
> From: Rob Sporleder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 31 May 2000 21:55
> To: Jason Spisak
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope
> going down)

> All of the python z2.py processes are still running. I
> haven't checked if I can get to it using http://localhost. The
> server is offsite. However, I did try an http get from the command
> line and it did not respond.

Hi!

I had similar problems some time ago (which have not been entirely resolved
-- I'm still trying to tie them down -- but now seem to be less frequent),
which seemed to be related to particular page accesses. Are you able to
identify from your logs any pages/methods that have repeatedly been called
prior to Zope going down?

See the Wiki at:
http://www.zope.org/Members/tseaver/Projects/HighlyAvailableZope/TwistingInT
heWindProblems

and take a look at DiagnosingHangProblems for some suggestions. Perhaps you
could post the details of your own situation there as well?

hth,

-- Marcus


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RE: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)

2000-06-01 Thread Marcus Collins

> -Original Message-
> From: Rob Sporleder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 31 May 2000 21:55
> To: Jason Spisak
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope 
> going down)
 
> All of the python z2.py processes are still running. I 
> haven't checked if I can get to it using http://localhost. The 
> server is offsite. However, I did try an http get from the command 
> line and it did not respond.

Hi!

I had similar problems some time ago (which have not been entirely resolved
-- I'm still trying to tie them down -- but now seem to be less frequent),
which seemed to be related to particular page accesses. Are you able to
identify from your logs any pages/methods that have repeatedly been called
prior to Zope going down?

See the Wiki at:
http://www.zope.org/Members/tseaver/Projects/HighlyAvailableZope/TwistingInT
heWindProblems

and take a look at DiagnosingHangProblems for some suggestions. Perhaps you
could post the details of your own situation there as well?

hth,

-- Marcus

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RE: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)

2000-05-31 Thread Rob Sporleder

It was the command line within the shell. Actually, I've found something
that's interesting...

The system clock is an hour slow. The logs are written 6 hours ahead. I
greped the log file for BigBrother and found an hour gap with no BigBrother
entries from 06:37:53 and 07:40:23, roughly the time that the site seemed to
go down. However, during this time there were hundreds of successful hits to
the site.

--Rob

-Original Message-
From: Jason Spisak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 2:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)


Rob Sporleder writes:

> All of the python z2.py processes are still running. I haven't checked if
I
> can get to it using http://localhost. The server is offsite. However, I
did
> try an http get from the command line and it did not respond.
>

Was it the command line on the server?
from the server shell:

$>wget http://localhost:8080

I'm trying to narrow it down to the real culprit.  We can't be sure it's
Zope and not the DNS/Machine/Routing/Firewall/ or anything else.

> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Spisak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 1:13 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)
>
>
> Rob Sporleder:
>
> > I received a server not responding error. We lost connectivity twice on
> > Friday as well. I setup a script to restart the server every X minutes
so
> we
> > wouldn't have to worry about it over the weekend. I removed the cronjob
on
> > Tuesday morning and it was fine until early Wednesday morning when it
went
> > down three times in 30 minutes.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rob
> >
>
> Wow. Ugly.  Are the Zope processes still up after you've lost
connectivity?
>  If so, can you get a browser on the machine running zope to access it?
> http://localhost:8080, or whatever port your running on.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jason
> > Spisak
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 12:10 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability
> >
> >
> > Rob Sporleder:
> >
> > > For reasons unknown we lost http connectivity to our Zope server three
> > times
> > > last night.
> >
> > When you say lost connectivity, do you mean the browsers gave you back a
> > 'Server Not Resonding' message, or was is as if Zope was just spinning
> it's
> > wheels?  If it was the latter, how long did you wait to see if you did
get
> > a response? 1 minute, 10, 30?
> >
> > >I've checked the http logs and, as I suspected, didn't find
> > > anything unusual around the time we lost connectivity. The Python
> > processes
> > > are still running and everything looks normal except for the
> connectivity
> > > problem. Does anybody have any idea what might be causing this? I
> haven't
> > > found anything.
> > >
> >
> > This happened to me, but it caused a single process to chew CPU.  Since
> you
> > noticed no such chewing, I'll bet it's not the DTML decapitation bug.
> >
> > > Here are some specifics about our setup...
> > >
> > > version of python:
> > > 1.5.2
> > >
> > > operating system:
> > > Linux 2.2.12-20smp (Redhat 6.1)
> > >
> > > services running on machine:
> > > MySQL
> > > 2 instances of Zope
> > > Python
> > >
> > > machine specifics:
> > >
> > > CPU: 0.04
> > > MEM: 31M of 512M
> > > Swap: 528688K free
> > > Disk Space: GB's available on all partitions
> > > Hardware: 598 Mhz Pentium III, 4 17.4 GB SCSI hard disks
> > >
> > > version of Zope:
> > > 2.1.4
> > >
>
> Jason Spisak
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> HireTechs.com
> 6151 West Century Boulevard
> Suite 900
> Los Angeles, CA 90045
> P. 310.665.3444
> F. 310.665.3544
>
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Suite 900
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Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)

2000-05-31 Thread Jason Spisak

Rob Sporleder writes:

> All of the python z2.py processes are still running. I haven't checked if I
> can get to it using http://localhost. The server is offsite. However, I did
> try an http get from the command line and it did not respond.
> 

Was it the command line on the server? 
from the server shell:

$>wget http://localhost:8080

I'm trying to narrow it down to the real culprit.  We can't be sure it's
Zope and not the DNS/Machine/Routing/Firewall/ or anything else. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Spisak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 1:13 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)
> 
> 
> Rob Sporleder:
> 
> > I received a server not responding error. We lost connectivity twice on
> > Friday as well. I setup a script to restart the server every X minutes so
> we
> > wouldn't have to worry about it over the weekend. I removed the cronjob on
> > Tuesday morning and it was fine until early Wednesday morning when it went
> > down three times in 30 minutes.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rob
> >
> 
> Wow. Ugly.  Are the Zope processes still up after you've lost connectivity?
>  If so, can you get a browser on the machine running zope to access it?
> http://localhost:8080, or whatever port your running on.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jason
> > Spisak
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 12:10 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability
> >
> >
> > Rob Sporleder:
> >
> > > For reasons unknown we lost http connectivity to our Zope server three
> > times
> > > last night.
> >
> > When you say lost connectivity, do you mean the browsers gave you back a
> > 'Server Not Resonding' message, or was is as if Zope was just spinning
> it's
> > wheels?  If it was the latter, how long did you wait to see if you did get
> > a response? 1 minute, 10, 30?
> >
> > >I've checked the http logs and, as I suspected, didn't find
> > > anything unusual around the time we lost connectivity. The Python
> > processes
> > > are still running and everything looks normal except for the
> connectivity
> > > problem. Does anybody have any idea what might be causing this? I
> haven't
> > > found anything.
> > >
> >
> > This happened to me, but it caused a single process to chew CPU.  Since
> you
> > noticed no such chewing, I'll bet it's not the DTML decapitation bug.
> >
> > > Here are some specifics about our setup...
> > >
> > > version of python:
> > > 1.5.2
> > >
> > > operating system:
> > > Linux 2.2.12-20smp (Redhat 6.1)
> > >
> > > services running on machine:
> > > MySQL
> > > 2 instances of Zope
> > > Python
> > >
> > > machine specifics:
> > >
> > > CPU: 0.04
> > > MEM: 31M of 512M
> > > Swap: 528688K free
> > > Disk Space: GB's available on all partitions
> > > Hardware: 598 Mhz Pentium III, 4 17.4 GB SCSI hard disks
> > >
> > > version of Zope:
> > > 2.1.4
> > >
> 
> Jason Spisak
> CIO
> HireTechs.com
> 6151 West Century Boulevard
> Suite 900
> Los Angeles, CA 90045
> P. 310.665.3444
> F. 310.665.3544
> 
> Under US Code Title 47, Sec.227(b)(1)(C), Sec.227(a)(2)(B) This email
> address may not be added to any commercial mail list with out my
> permission.  Violation of my privacy with advertising or SPAM will
> result in a suit for a MINIMUM of $500 damages/incident, $1500 for
> repeats.
> 


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HireTechs.com
6151 West Century Boulevard
Suite 900
Los Angeles, CA 90045
P. 310.665.3444
F. 310.665.3544

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RE: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)

2000-05-31 Thread Rob Sporleder

All of the python z2.py processes are still running. I haven't checked if I
can get to it using http://localhost. The server is offsite. However, I did
try an http get from the command line and it did not respond.

-Original Message-
From: Jason Spisak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 1:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)


Rob Sporleder:

> I received a server not responding error. We lost connectivity twice on
> Friday as well. I setup a script to restart the server every X minutes so
we
> wouldn't have to worry about it over the weekend. I removed the cronjob on
> Tuesday morning and it was fine until early Wednesday morning when it went
> down three times in 30 minutes.
>
> Thanks,
> Rob
>

Wow. Ugly.  Are the Zope processes still up after you've lost connectivity?
 If so, can you get a browser on the machine running zope to access it?
http://localhost:8080, or whatever port your running on.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jason
> Spisak
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 12:10 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability
>
>
> Rob Sporleder:
>
> > For reasons unknown we lost http connectivity to our Zope server three
> times
> > last night.
>
> When you say lost connectivity, do you mean the browsers gave you back a
> 'Server Not Resonding' message, or was is as if Zope was just spinning
it's
> wheels?  If it was the latter, how long did you wait to see if you did get
> a response? 1 minute, 10, 30?
>
> >I've checked the http logs and, as I suspected, didn't find
> > anything unusual around the time we lost connectivity. The Python
> processes
> > are still running and everything looks normal except for the
connectivity
> > problem. Does anybody have any idea what might be causing this? I
haven't
> > found anything.
> >
>
> This happened to me, but it caused a single process to chew CPU.  Since
you
> noticed no such chewing, I'll bet it's not the DTML decapitation bug.
>
> > Here are some specifics about our setup...
> >
> > version of python:
> > 1.5.2
> >
> > operating system:
> > Linux 2.2.12-20smp (Redhat 6.1)
> >
> > services running on machine:
> > MySQL
> > 2 instances of Zope
> > Python
> >
> > machine specifics:
> >
> > CPU: 0.04
> > MEM: 31M of 512M
> > Swap: 528688K free
> > Disk Space: GB's available on all partitions
> > Hardware: 598 Mhz Pentium III, 4 17.4 GB SCSI hard disks
> >
> > version of Zope:
> > 2.1.4
> >

Jason Spisak
CIO
HireTechs.com
6151 West Century Boulevard
Suite 900
Los Angeles, CA 90045
P. 310.665.3444
F. 310.665.3544

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Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability (Zope going down)

2000-05-31 Thread Jason Spisak

Rob Sporleder:

> I received a server not responding error. We lost connectivity twice on
> Friday as well. I setup a script to restart the server every X minutes so we
> wouldn't have to worry about it over the weekend. I removed the cronjob on
> Tuesday morning and it was fine until early Wednesday morning when it went
> down three times in 30 minutes.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rob
> 

Wow. Ugly.  Are the Zope processes still up after you've lost connectivity?
 If so, can you get a browser on the machine running zope to access it? 
http://localhost:8080, or whatever port your running on.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jason
> Spisak
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 12:10 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Zope] Strange Zope behavior/Instability
> 
> 
> Rob Sporleder:
> 
> > For reasons unknown we lost http connectivity to our Zope server three
> times
> > last night.
> 
> When you say lost connectivity, do you mean the browsers gave you back a
> 'Server Not Resonding' message, or was is as if Zope was just spinning it's
> wheels?  If it was the latter, how long did you wait to see if you did get
> a response? 1 minute, 10, 30?
> 
> >I've checked the http logs and, as I suspected, didn't find
> > anything unusual around the time we lost connectivity. The Python
> processes
> > are still running and everything looks normal except for the connectivity
> > problem. Does anybody have any idea what might be causing this? I haven't
> > found anything.
> >
> 
> This happened to me, but it caused a single process to chew CPU.  Since you
> noticed no such chewing, I'll bet it's not the DTML decapitation bug.
> 
> > Here are some specifics about our setup...
> >
> > version of python:
> > 1.5.2
> >
> > operating system:
> > Linux 2.2.12-20smp (Redhat 6.1)
> >
> > services running on machine:
> > MySQL
> > 2 instances of Zope
> > Python
> >
> > machine specifics:
> >
> > CPU: 0.04
> > MEM: 31M of 512M
> > Swap: 528688K free
> > Disk Space: GB's available on all partitions
> > Hardware: 598 Mhz Pentium III, 4 17.4 GB SCSI hard disks
> >
> > version of Zope:
> > 2.1.4
> >

Jason Spisak
CIO
HireTechs.com
6151 West Century Boulevard
Suite 900
Los Angeles, CA 90045
P. 310.665.3444
F. 310.665.3544

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