Re: [Zope] ZOPE - Size reduction ???

2000-09-18 Thread JTC Murphy


 This is funny. HDs are so cheap today, 

Er, this is fine if you're building a new box (and if you're using
simple IDE drives) but rather less so if you've exceeded the capacity on
an existing system and/or you're using SCSI drives.

Yes capacity is cheap, but /adding/ capacity is rather less so - if
there's space you can drop in another drive (which may in turn give you
heat problems) but you've still got to manage allocation of storage to
the new drive. If there isn't space then you're talking about adding in
another box (rather less cheap) or transferring the data from old to new
- slow and the accountants won't be happy about writing off the old
one.

In addition you have to worry about the cost of the time taken to
perform any of the above.

Not as funny as it might seem )-:

Murph



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Re: [Zope] ZOPE - Size reduction ???

2000-09-18 Thread Nils Kassube

Guten Abend.

 Er, this is fine if you're building a new box (and if you're using
 simple IDE drives) but rather less so if you've exceeded the capacity on
 an existing system and/or you're using SCSI drives.

I use Ultra Wide SCSI on my main workstation. Compared to what I had to
pay for a 20 MB HD for my Amiga ten years ago, it is really cheap :-)

Of course, storage is rather expensive if you're held hostage by a
proprietary workstation company with ridiculous pricing for HDs like
e.g. HP.  

 heat problems) but you've still got to manage allocation of storage to
 the new drive. If there isn't space then you're talking about adding in
 another box (rather less cheap) or transferring the data from old to new
 - slow and the accountants won't be happy about writing off the old
 one.

I don't know the situation in the Wintel world, but I did this with
Macintosh and Unix systems. I've also always been able to reuse the old
box for different purposes.

To stay on topic with Zope: You don't have to retire the old system,
instead you could use ZEO... =:-

 In addition you have to worry about the cost of the time taken to
 perform any of the above.

Yes, but you also have to consider the opportunity cost. It's not
exactly a productive use of the time of your highly paid developers to
think about things like adhering to disk quotas.

Cheers,
Nils
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Re: [Zope] ZOPE - Size reduction ???

2000-09-16 Thread Bill Anderson

George wrote:
 
 I recently transformed my web site into a zope site. It's fantastic no
 question about that but I am a bit warried about the size of the web
 site. I already had to ask for user quota increase and it looks like
 I'll have to do it again soon. I got rid of the tutorial, products I did
 not need, the unnecessary doc files I deleted the quick start directory
 and I am flushing and packing the database often. What else can I do to
 decrease the size of ZOPE?

Check your logs. Depending on how it si set up, your logs may be in
youir directory,and counting against your quota.


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Re: [Zope] ZOPE - Size reduction ???

2000-09-15 Thread Shane Hathaway

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 I recently transformed my web site into a zope site. It's fantastic no
 question about that but I am a bit warried about the size of the web
 site. I already had to ask for user quota increase and it looks like
 I'll have to do it again soon. I got rid of the tutorial, products I did
 not need, the unnecessary doc files I deleted the quick start directory
 and I am flushing and packing the database often. What else can I do to
 decrease the size of ZOPE?

If all python files have been compiled, you can remove the sources. 
Here's a command that should do it all at once. :-)

rm `find . -name '*.py' -exec test -e {}c \; -print`

Shane

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