RE: [Zope-dev] memory leak

2001-04-11 Thread Marco Nova

 have you checked the debug page in the control panel and 
 noted any refcounts
 increasing?

Class  April 10, 2001 9:17 am  April 11, 2001 8:34 am

Products.ParsedXML.DOM.Core.Text  3241  27318  +24077  
Products.ParsedXML.DOM.Core.Element   1777  14493  +12716  
Products.ParsedXML.DOM.ExpatBuilder.ExpatBuilder  81  1506  +1425  
Products.ParsedXML.Printer.PrintVisitor   3  107  +104  
Products.ParsedXML.DOM.Core.Document  10  112  +102  

Yes, I've a lot of refcounts leaks.

 any chance that this is the same problem that andy is running 
 into (read his
 posts above)?

I dunno because of my very lack of knowledge of Zope.
All of these refcounts leaks means that the Product is doing something wrong
or that I'm using in the wrong manner ?

- mn

 
 -d
 
 On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 05:27:28PM +0200, Marco Nova wrote:
  Hello guys,
  
  It seems that I've some memory leak problems and I want to 
 understand where
  I've to look for.
  
  Scenario:
  
  I've an IIS web server that generates an XML page (taking data from
  SqlServer);
  The Zope web server must retrieve the XML page, manage the 
 data and render
  them in HTML (I cant only apply a XSL stylesheet to XML).
  
  The Facts:
  
  I've written a external method that - using httplib - reads 
 the XML page and
  return a string that is the raw XML sources, than I've 
 written another
  external method that use ExpatBuilder of 
 Products.ParsedXML.DOM to parse the
  XML an generate a list of [(id - {mapping})] which will be 
 accessed with a
  dtml-in tag, so in the sequence-key I've access to the ID and with
  sequence-item I can access to the mapping object.
  I'm using latest version of ZOPE (2.3.1, the binary one 
 with Python 1.5.2)
  and ParsedXML.
  
  The Problem:
  
  It seems that every time the method retrieve the page or 
 parse the XML I
  loose a bunch of kilobytes. Because the methods are very 
 simple (100 lines
  of code in total) and because I didn't create any class for 
 handling this
  workflow I can't understand where I can loose bytes.
  
  The Questions:
  
  Is the list generated for the dtml-in tag freed 
 automatically by ZOPE ?
  Is there a Garbage Collector somewhere that must be activated ?
  Should I avoid the use of the ExpatBuilder for XML processing ?
  
  Thanks for listening my newbies questions.
  
  
  Best Regards,
  
  - mn
  
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Re: [Zope-dev] memory leak

2001-04-11 Thread Chris McDonough

Hi Marco,

This looks like a potential bug in either ParsedXML or the code you're using
to manipulate the components within ParsedXML.

We'd like to find out!  ;-)  Do you think you can file a collector report
with enough information in it to reproduce this behavior?

Many thanks,

- C

- Original Message -
From: "Marco Nova" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Zope-Dev (E-mail)" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 2:29 AM
Subject: RE: [Zope-dev] memory leak


  have you checked the debug page in the control panel and
  noted any refcounts
  increasing?

 Class  April 10, 2001 9:17 am  April 11, 2001 8:34 am

 Products.ParsedXML.DOM.Core.Text  3241  27318  +24077
 Products.ParsedXML.DOM.Core.Element   1777  14493  +12716
 Products.ParsedXML.DOM.ExpatBuilder.ExpatBuilder  81  1506  +1425
 Products.ParsedXML.Printer.PrintVisitor   3  107  +104
 Products.ParsedXML.DOM.Core.Document  10  112  +102

 Yes, I've a lot of refcounts leaks.

  any chance that this is the same problem that andy is running
  into (read his
  posts above)?

 I dunno because of my very lack of knowledge of Zope.
 All of these refcounts leaks means that the Product is doing something
wrong
 or that I'm using in the wrong manner ?

 - mn

 
  -d
 
  On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 05:27:28PM +0200, Marco Nova wrote:
   Hello guys,
  
   It seems that I've some memory leak problems and I want to
  understand where
   I've to look for.
  
   Scenario:
  
   I've an IIS web server that generates an XML page (taking data from
   SqlServer);
   The Zope web server must retrieve the XML page, manage the
  data and render
   them in HTML (I cant only apply a XSL stylesheet to XML).
  
   The Facts:
  
   I've written a external method that - using httplib - reads
  the XML page and
   return a string that is the raw XML sources, than I've
  written another
   external method that use ExpatBuilder of
  Products.ParsedXML.DOM to parse the
   XML an generate a list of [(id - {mapping})] which will be
  accessed with a
   dtml-in tag, so in the sequence-key I've access to the ID and with
   sequence-item I can access to the mapping object.
   I'm using latest version of ZOPE (2.3.1, the binary one
  with Python 1.5.2)
   and ParsedXML.
  
   The Problem:
  
   It seems that every time the method retrieve the page or
  parse the XML I
   loose a bunch of kilobytes. Because the methods are very
  simple (100 lines
   of code in total) and because I didn't create any class for
  handling this
   workflow I can't understand where I can loose bytes.
  
   The Questions:
  
   Is the list generated for the dtml-in tag freed
  automatically by ZOPE ?
   Is there a Garbage Collector somewhere that must be activated ?
   Should I avoid the use of the ExpatBuilder for XML processing ?
  
   Thanks for listening my newbies questions.
  
  
   Best Regards,
  
   - mn
  
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[Zope-dev] How do I call an HTMLFile in context provided by a path?

2001-04-11 Thread Itai Tavor

Hi,

I have a method that receives a path: 
'/MyApp/SomeSpecialist/some_id/edit_html'  and has to call edit_html 
in the context of some_id. If edit_html is a DTML Method, I can do 
this:

 obj = REQUEST.traverse(path)
 return obj(obj.aq_parent, REQUEST)

But when edit_html is an HTMLFile in a Python Product, obj.aq_parent 
doesn't work. And trying to get some_id using 
REQUEST.traverse('/MyApp/SomeSpecialist/some_id') returns the 
index_html method of some_id, instead of the object itself.

Any ideas how I can fix this?

TIA, Itai
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RE: [Zope-dev] memory leak

2001-04-11 Thread Marco Nova

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris McDonough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: mercoled 11 aprile 2001 9.04
 To: Marco Nova; Zope-Dev (E-mail)
 Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] memory leak

 This looks like a potential bug in either ParsedXML or the 
 code you're using
 to manipulate the components within ParsedXML.
 
 We'd like to find out!  ;-)  Do you think you can file a 
 collector report
 with enough information in it to reproduce this behavior?

I can send you the code for the two external method I use, they only need a
webserver (that could be zope too) that serve an XML page (I can provide the
XML the methods needs) and the bunch of dtml methods I use to show the XML.
Anyway I will try to understand what's happening with ParsedXML and my code.

- mn

 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Marco Nova" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Zope-Dev (E-mail)" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 2:29 AM
 Subject: RE: [Zope-dev] memory leak
 
 
   have you checked the debug page in the control panel and
   noted any refcounts
   increasing?
 
  Class  April 10, 2001 9:17 am  April 11, 2001 8:34 am
 
  Products.ParsedXML.DOM.Core.Text  3241  
 27318  +24077
  Products.ParsedXML.DOM.Core.Element   1777  
 14493  +12716
  Products.ParsedXML.DOM.ExpatBuilder.ExpatBuilder  81  1506  +1425
  Products.ParsedXML.Printer.PrintVisitor   3  107  +104
  Products.ParsedXML.DOM.Core.Document  10  112  +102
 
  Yes, I've a lot of refcounts leaks.
 
   any chance that this is the same problem that andy is running
   into (read his
   posts above)?
 
  I dunno because of my very lack of knowledge of Zope.
  All of these refcounts leaks means that the Product is 
 doing something
 wrong
  or that I'm using in the wrong manner ?
 
  - mn
 
  
   -d
  
   On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 05:27:28PM +0200, Marco Nova wrote:
Hello guys,
   
It seems that I've some memory leak problems and I want to
   understand where
I've to look for.
   
Scenario:
   
I've an IIS web server that generates an XML page 
 (taking data from
SqlServer);
The Zope web server must retrieve the XML page, manage the
   data and render
them in HTML (I cant only apply a XSL stylesheet to XML).
   
The Facts:
   
I've written a external method that - using httplib - reads
   the XML page and
return a string that is the raw XML sources, than I've
   written another
external method that use ExpatBuilder of
   Products.ParsedXML.DOM to parse the
XML an generate a list of [(id - {mapping})] which will be
   accessed with a
dtml-in tag, so in the sequence-key I've access to the 
 ID and with
sequence-item I can access to the mapping object.
I'm using latest version of ZOPE (2.3.1, the binary one
   with Python 1.5.2)
and ParsedXML.
   
The Problem:
   
It seems that every time the method retrieve the page or
   parse the XML I
loose a bunch of kilobytes. Because the methods are very
   simple (100 lines
of code in total) and because I didn't create any class for
   handling this
workflow I can't understand where I can loose bytes.
   
The Questions:
   
Is the list generated for the dtml-in tag freed
   automatically by ZOPE ?
Is there a Garbage Collector somewhere that must be activated ?
Should I avoid the use of the ExpatBuilder for XML processing ?
   
Thanks for listening my newbies questions.
   
   
Best Regards,
   
- mn
   
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Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak

2001-04-11 Thread Chris McDonough

Andy,

Jim just brought something up... do you have database result caching turned
on?  If so, what is your number of max results to cache and max time?


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From: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Dyon Balding" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak


 Im not convinced its just SQLAlias though, I commented out the SQLAlias
 creations and I was still getting the other object refcounts shooting
up...

 Cheers.
 --
   Andy McKay.


 - Original Message -
 From: "Dyon Balding" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 4:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak


  i was one of the people that ran into big problems with that previous
bug.
  if that is the one you are coming across, then the problem occurs when
you
  try to access the data in a column using a dtml-var with a different
case
  to what it is stored in your database.
 
  eg. if you have a column called ID in your database, and do a dtml-var
 id,
  then prior to the bug fix, you would see refcount increases for SQLAlias
 (and
  possibly some other types as well - can't remember too clearly).
 
  hope that helps you track it down
  -d
 
 
  On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 10:25:09AM -0700, Andy McKay wrote:
   I have the impression its not SQLAlias thats the problem since im also
   getting Record.Record, Acquistion.ImplicitAcquirerWrapper and
Extension
   class floating around. I just commented out the lines that create
 SQLAlias
   instances and that was fine but...
  
   Sorry you're getting bugged here since you answered my first post.
   --
 Andy McKay.
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 9:59 AM
   Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak
  
  
I believe it handles the translation of the sql fields from upper to
 lower
and vice versa.  More than that, I'm uncertain.
   
   
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From: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Chris McDonough"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak
   
   
 Any chance you could clarify what SQLAlias does, ive definitely
got
 the
case
 where some sql queries (and the way they are handled / used)
causes
 an
 increase in the SQLAlias count and some dont. Id like to find the
 quick
work
 around so I can get around to testing ZmxODBC

 Cheers.
 --
   Andy McKay.


 - Original Message -
 From: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:55 AM
 Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak


  As far as I can tell those changes are still in. Do I understand
 them?
Not
  really.
  --
Andy McKay.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:37 AM
  Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak
 
 
   That's it.
  
   - Original Message -
   From: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 11:36 AM
   Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak
  
  
This one?
   
- SQLAlias objects were leaking when a database
column
 was
  accessed via an aliased name. This was tracked
down
 to a
  subtle bug in ExtensionClass.
   
Cheers.
--
  Andy McKay.
   
   
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From: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak
   
   
 This sounds like a bug that was fixed in 2.3.0 or
earlier...
 I
hope
 it
 didn't make its way back in!

 - Original Message -
 From: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 11:18 AM
 Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak


  Wow came in this morning to find my Zope has :
 
  62642 instances of Shared.DC.ZRDB.RDB.SQLAlias and
  32444 instances of Acquisition.ImplicitAcquirerWrapper
 
  According to the debug info I think I have a place
to
   start.
  --

Re: [Zope-dev] memory leak

2001-04-11 Thread Chris McDonough

The bugreport won't do us as much good if we need to set up an elaborate
testing environment... it'd be preferable if you could break it down enough
to make it happen in a single external method or pythonscript that doesn't
rely on external webservers or databases, or what-have-you... but we'll take
whatever you've got!

- C

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From: "Marco Nova" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "'Chris McDonough'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: "Zope-Dev (E-mail)" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 6:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Zope-dev] memory leak


 -Original Message-
 From: Chris McDonough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: mercoled 11 aprile 2001 9.04
 To: Marco Nova; Zope-Dev (E-mail)
 Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] memory leak

 This looks like a potential bug in either ParsedXML or the
 code you're using
 to manipulate the components within ParsedXML.

 We'd like to find out!  ;-)  Do you think you can file a
 collector report
 with enough information in it to reproduce this behavior?

I can send you the code for the two external method I use, they only need a
webserver (that could be zope too) that serve an XML page (I can provide the
XML the methods needs) and the bunch of dtml methods I use to show the XML.
Anyway I will try to understand what's happening with ParsedXML and my code.

- mn


 - Original Message -
 From: "Marco Nova" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Zope-Dev (E-mail)" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 2:29 AM
 Subject: RE: [Zope-dev] memory leak


   have you checked the debug page in the control panel and
   noted any refcounts
   increasing?
 
  Class  April 10, 2001 9:17 am  April 11, 2001 8:34 am
 
  Products.ParsedXML.DOM.Core.Text  3241
 27318  +24077
  Products.ParsedXML.DOM.Core.Element   1777
 14493  +12716
  Products.ParsedXML.DOM.ExpatBuilder.ExpatBuilder  81  1506  +1425
  Products.ParsedXML.Printer.PrintVisitor   3  107  +104
  Products.ParsedXML.DOM.Core.Document  10  112  +102
 
  Yes, I've a lot of refcounts leaks.
 
   any chance that this is the same problem that andy is running
   into (read his
   posts above)?
 
  I dunno because of my very lack of knowledge of Zope.
  All of these refcounts leaks means that the Product is
 doing something
 wrong
  or that I'm using in the wrong manner ?
 
  - mn
 
  
   -d
  
   On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 05:27:28PM +0200, Marco Nova wrote:
Hello guys,
   
It seems that I've some memory leak problems and I want to
   understand where
I've to look for.
   
Scenario:
   
I've an IIS web server that generates an XML page
 (taking data from
SqlServer);
The Zope web server must retrieve the XML page, manage the
   data and render
them in HTML (I cant only apply a XSL stylesheet to XML).
   
The Facts:
   
I've written a external method that - using httplib - reads
   the XML page and
return a string that is the raw XML sources, than I've
   written another
external method that use ExpatBuilder of
   Products.ParsedXML.DOM to parse the
XML an generate a list of [(id - {mapping})] which will be
   accessed with a
dtml-in tag, so in the sequence-key I've access to the
 ID and with
sequence-item I can access to the mapping object.
I'm using latest version of ZOPE (2.3.1, the binary one
   with Python 1.5.2)
and ParsedXML.
   
The Problem:
   
It seems that every time the method retrieve the page or
   parse the XML I
loose a bunch of kilobytes. Because the methods are very
   simple (100 lines
of code in total) and because I didn't create any class for
   handling this
workflow I can't understand where I can loose bytes.
   
The Questions:
   
Is the list generated for the dtml-in tag freed
   automatically by ZOPE ?
Is there a Garbage Collector somewhere that must be activated ?
Should I avoid the use of the ExpatBuilder for XML processing ?
   
Thanks for listening my newbies questions.
   
   
Best Regards,
   
- mn
   
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Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak

2001-04-11 Thread Andy McKay

If you're talking about ZSQLMethod options then its at the default which is

Maximum results to cache 100
Maximum time (sec) to cache 0

Does that mean the first 100 results are being cached for ever? That might
do it...

Cheers.
--
  Andy McKay.


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From: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Dyon Balding"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak


 Andy,

 Jim just brought something up... do you have database result caching
turned
 on?  If so, what is your number of max results to cache and max time?


 - Original Message -
 From: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Dyon Balding" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 7:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak


  Im not convinced its just SQLAlias though, I commented out the SQLAlias
  creations and I was still getting the other object refcounts shooting
 up...
 
  Cheers.
  --
Andy McKay.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Dyon Balding" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 4:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak
 
 
   i was one of the people that ran into big problems with that previous
 bug.
   if that is the one you are coming across, then the problem occurs when
 you
   try to access the data in a column using a dtml-var with a different
 case
   to what it is stored in your database.
  
   eg. if you have a column called ID in your database, and do a
dtml-var
  id,
   then prior to the bug fix, you would see refcount increases for
SQLAlias
  (and
   possibly some other types as well - can't remember too clearly).
  
   hope that helps you track it down
   -d
  
  
   On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 10:25:09AM -0700, Andy McKay wrote:
I have the impression its not SQLAlias thats the problem since im
also
getting Record.Record, Acquistion.ImplicitAcquirerWrapper and
 Extension
class floating around. I just commented out the lines that create
  SQLAlias
instances and that was fine but...
   
Sorry you're getting bugged here since you answered my first post.
--
  Andy McKay.
   
   
- Original Message -
From: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak
   
   
 I believe it handles the translation of the sql fields from upper
to
  lower
 and vice versa.  More than that, I'm uncertain.


 - Original Message -
 From: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Chris McDonough"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 1:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak


  Any chance you could clarify what SQLAlias does, ive definitely
 got
  the
 case
  where some sql queries (and the way they are handled / used)
 causes
  an
  increase in the SQLAlias count and some dont. Id like to find
the
  quick
 work
  around so I can get around to testing ZmxODBC
 
  Cheers.
  --
Andy McKay.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:55 AM
  Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak
 
 
   As far as I can tell those changes are still in. Do I
understand
  them?
 Not
   really.
   --
 Andy McKay.
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:37 AM
   Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak
  
  
That's it.
   
- Original Message -
From: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak
   
   
 This one?

 - SQLAlias objects were leaking when a database
 column
  was
   accessed via an aliased name. This was tracked
 down
  to a
   subtle bug in ExtensionClass.

 Cheers.
 --
   Andy McKay.


 - Original Message -
 From: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:29 AM
 Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak


  This sounds like a bug that was fixed in 2.3.0 or
 earlier...
  I

Re: [Zope-dev] [ANNOUNCE] Zope Developer's Guide Preview

2001-04-11 Thread Andy McKay

 Amos Latteier wrote:
  I'm proud to announce the first preview release of the Zope Developer's
  Guide.
  
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZDG
 
 woot!


woot?
--
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Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak

2001-04-11 Thread Chris McDonough

No, I think this means that caching is turned off entirely.  Back to the
drawing board.

- C

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To: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Dyon Balding"
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Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak


 If you're talking about ZSQLMethod options then its at the default which
is

 Maximum results to cache 100
 Maximum time (sec) to cache 0

 Does that mean the first 100 results are being cached for ever? That might
 do it...

 Cheers.
 --
   Andy McKay.


 - Original Message -
 From: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Dyon Balding"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 8:51 AM
 Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak


  Andy,
 
  Jim just brought something up... do you have database result caching
 turned
  on?  If so, what is your number of max results to cache and max time?
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Dyon Balding" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 7:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak
 
 
   Im not convinced its just SQLAlias though, I commented out the
SQLAlias
   creations and I was still getting the other object refcounts shooting
  up...
  
   Cheers.
   --
 Andy McKay.
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: "Dyon Balding" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 4:46 PM
   Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak
  
  
i was one of the people that ran into big problems with that
previous
  bug.
if that is the one you are coming across, then the problem occurs
when
  you
try to access the data in a column using a dtml-var with a different
  case
to what it is stored in your database.
   
eg. if you have a column called ID in your database, and do a
 dtml-var
   id,
then prior to the bug fix, you would see refcount increases for
 SQLAlias
   (and
possibly some other types as well - can't remember too clearly).
   
hope that helps you track it down
-d
   
   
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 10:25:09AM -0700, Andy McKay wrote:
 I have the impression its not SQLAlias thats the problem since im
 also
 getting Record.Record, Acquistion.ImplicitAcquirerWrapper and
  Extension
 class floating around. I just commented out the lines that create
   SQLAlias
 instances and that was fine but...

 Sorry you're getting bugged here since you answered my first post.
 --
   Andy McKay.


 - Original Message -
 From: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 9:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak


  I believe it handles the translation of the sql fields from
upper
 to
   lower
  and vice versa.  More than that, I'm uncertain.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Chris McDonough"
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 1:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak
 
 
   Any chance you could clarify what SQLAlias does, ive
definitely
  got
   the
  case
   where some sql queries (and the way they are handled / used)
  causes
   an
   increase in the SQLAlias count and some dont. Id like to find
 the
   quick
  work
   around so I can get around to testing ZmxODBC
  
   Cheers.
   --
 Andy McKay.
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:55 AM
   Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak
  
  
As far as I can tell those changes are still in. Do I
 understand
   them?
  Not
really.
--
  Andy McKay.
   
   
- Original Message -
From: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak
   
   
 That's it.

 - Original Message -
 From: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 11:36 AM
 Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak


  This one?
 
  - SQLAlias objects were leaking when a database
  column
   was
accessed via an aliased name. This was 

RE: [Zope-dev] ZODBCA questions...

2001-04-11 Thread Bryan Baszczewski

You may be interested in recent developments:
http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/DatabaseStategy/HistoricalRevisi
ons/827.44494.7026.26188

I dont know why the DC folks havent stayed on top of ODBC.  They should.
Plenty of Zope/SQL Server users.


-Original Message-
From: Mark Pratt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 11:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] ZODBCA questions...


Hi Andy,

I would venture a guess that your ZODBC problems have to do
with the DA being Level 1.

visit the somewhat dated URL:

http://www.zope.org/Members/petrilli/DARoadmap

for details on what Level 1 through 3 represent.

For an upcoming project we will need to work with MS SQL
server as well so I've been discussing with Paul a bit about what
it would take to fund a L3 DA. You might want to send him an
email.

Regards,

Mark

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Re: [Zope-dev] ZODBCA questions...

2001-04-11 Thread Chris McDonough

 You may be interested in recent developments:

http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/DatabaseStategy/HistoricalRevisi
 ons/827.44494.7026.26188

 I dont know why the DC folks havent stayed on top of ODBC.  They should.
 Plenty of Zope/SQL Server users.

This is true.  But it's likely the aame reason we dont have an ecommerce
module or an XSLT processor or a catalog which allows for easy indexing of
pdfs or our own object-relational mapping story, or, or, or, or.

Patches accepted ;-),

- C



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[Zope-dev] PLEASE trim cited text!

2001-04-11 Thread Ken Manheimer

I've been watching this for a few days now, holding back, but it's
**awful**!  *Please* take a few moments to extract relevant portions from
cited text, definitely do *not* include the whole thing!  (There is no
excuse for multiple copies of the footer, usually not an excuse for a
single copy.)  For those of us that read via digest mode, at least in some
interfaces, it makes increasingly hard to find messages.  I'm taking the
liberty to include one example just to demonstrate the ridiculous length
this has gone.

Ken Manheimer
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 From: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED],
"Dyon Balding" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak
 Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:35:16 -0700
 
 If you're talking about ZSQLMethod options then its at the default which is
 
 Maximum results to cache 100
 Maximum time (sec) to cache 0
 
 Does that mean the first 100 results are being cached for ever? That might
 do it...
 
 Cheers.
 --
   Andy McKay.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Dyon Balding"
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 8:51 AM
 Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak
 
 
  Andy,
 
  Jim just brought something up... do you have database result caching
 turned
  on?  If so, what is your number of max results to cache and max time?
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Dyon Balding" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 7:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak
 
 
   Im not convinced its just SQLAlias though, I commented out the SQLAlias
   creations and I was still getting the other object refcounts shooting
  up...
  
   Cheers.
   --
 Andy McKay.
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: "Dyon Balding" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 4:46 PM
   Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak
  
  
i was one of the people that ran into big problems with that previous
  bug.
if that is the one you are coming across, then the problem occurs when
  you
try to access the data in a column using a dtml-var with a different
  case
to what it is stored in your database.
   
eg. if you have a column called ID in your database, and do a
 dtml-var
   id,
then prior to the bug fix, you would see refcount increases for
 SQLAlias
   (and
possibly some other types as well - can't remember too clearly).
   
hope that helps you track it down
-d
   
   
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 10:25:09AM -0700, Andy McKay wrote:
 I have the impression its not SQLAlias thats the problem since im
 also
 getting Record.Record, Acquistion.ImplicitAcquirerWrapper and
  Extension
 class floating around. I just commented out the lines that create
   SQLAlias
 instances and that was fine but...

 Sorry you're getting bugged here since you answered my first post.
 --
   Andy McKay.


 - Original Message -
 From: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 9:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak


  I believe it handles the translation of the sql fields from upper
 to
   lower
  and vice versa.  More than that, I'm uncertain.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Chris McDonough"
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 1:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak
 
 
   Any chance you could clarify what SQLAlias does, ive definitely
  got
   the
  case
   where some sql queries (and the way they are handled / used)
  causes
   an
   increase in the SQLAlias count and some dont. Id like to find
 the
   quick
  work
   around so I can get around to testing ZmxODBC
  
   Cheers.
   --
 Andy McKay.
  
  
   - Original Message -
   From: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:55 AM
   Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak
  
  
As far as I can tell those changes are still in. Do I
 understand
   them?
  Not
really.
--
  Andy McKay.
   
   
- Original Message -
From: "Chris McDonough" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Andy McKay" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak
   
   
 That's it.

 - 

RE: [Zope-dev] ActiveState / DC Collaboration

2001-04-11 Thread Brian Lloyd

 Will there be an effort to make Zope 2.3.x play with ActivePython 
 2.0 or is
 this a longer range goal ... Zope 3.x ???  I know there are alot of other
 irons in the fire but I am just trying to make some design 
 decisions.

The next Zope feature release (2.4.0) will be based on and 
require Python 2.1. So AFAIK, you should be able to take 
advantage of ActivePython2.1 with Zope 2.4.

Brian Lloyd[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Software Engineer  540.371.6909  
Digital Creations  http://www.digicool.com 





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Re: [Zope-dev] PLEASE trim cited text!

2001-04-11 Thread Andy McKay

Sorry I normally try to do that...

Cheers.
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Re: [Zope-dev] Tracking memory leak

2001-04-11 Thread Andy McKay

Heres the graphs of Zopes memory usage, if that interests you... the drops
are the restarts.
--
  Andy McKay.

 memoryused-freebytes-day.gif


RE: [Zope-dev] ZODBCA questions...

2001-04-11 Thread Bryan Baszczewski

 This is true.  But it's likely the aame reason we dont have an ecommerce
module or an XSLT processor or a catalog which allows for easy indexing of
pdfs or our own object-relational mapping story, or, or, or, or. 

It would be naive of me to assume what reason that is, but I just wondered
why ZODBC DA was left in it's current (somewhat dated, somewhat stale...but
like a old chocolate chip cookie, you'll still eat it) state.


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RE: [Zope-dev] memory leak

2001-04-11 Thread Dieter Maurer

Marco Nova writes:
   have you checked the debug page in the control panel and 
   noted any refcounts
   increasing?
  
  Class  April 10, 2001 9:17 am  April 11, 2001 8:34 am
  
  Products.ParsedXML.DOM.Core.Text  3241  27318  +24077  
  Products.ParsedXML.DOM.Core.Element   1777  14493  +12716  
  Products.ParsedXML.DOM.ExpatBuilder.ExpatBuilder  81  1506  +1425  
  Products.ParsedXML.Printer.PrintVisitor   3  107  +104  
  Products.ParsedXML.DOM.Core.Document  10  112  +102  
  
  Yes, I've a lot of refcounts leaks.
I do not know "ParsedXML"'s DOM implementation.

However, cycles are quite common for DOM's due to the
cyclic relationship between parent and children.
Unless great care is taken, DOM tree can be highly cyclic
and would therefore not be garbage collectable by Pythons
1.5.2 reference counting garbage collector.


Dieter

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Re: [Zope-dev] [ANNOUNCE] Zope Developer's Guide Preview

2001-04-11 Thread richard

Andy McKay wrote:
  Amos Latteier wrote:
   I'm proud to announce the first preview release of the Zope Developer's
   Guide.
  
 http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZDG
 
  woot!
 
 woot?

Sorry, HURRAH!

:)


   Richard

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Re: [Zope-dev] How do I call an HTMLFile in context provided by apath?

2001-04-11 Thread Itai Tavor

Dieter Maurer wrote:

Itai Tavor writes:
   I have a method that receives a path:
   '/MyApp/SomeSpecialist/some_id/edit_html'  and has to call edit_html
   in the context of some_id. If edit_html is a DTML Method, I can do
   this:
  
obj = REQUEST.traverse(path)
I would use "restrictedTraverse" instead of "REQUEST.traverse"
as it uses less magic.

Thanks for the tip... I thought restrictedTraverse is slower because 
it has to do security checks?

...
  
   But when edit_html is an HTMLFile in a Python Product, obj.aq_parent
   doesn't work.
Why not?

It causes this exception:

Error Type: AttributeError
Error Value: edit_htmlaq_parent


This would mean that either your product is not derived
from ExtensionClass.Base or that "HTMLFile" is not derived
from "Acquisition.Implicit".

My product inherit does have implicit acquisition. But HTMLFile 
doesn't - that's the whole problem. Replacing HTMLFile with DTMLFile 
solves the problem, as DTMLFile derives from Acquisition.Explicit.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

P.S Now that aq_parent is working... why can't I do absolute_url() on 
DTMLFiles :-(
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[Zope-dev] Using Python script to create ZClass instances

2001-04-11 Thread Bjorn Stabell

Hi there,

Im having problems using Python script to create a ZClass instance from
a ZClass that's inside of another ZClass.  I have this addMyObject
Python script as constructor script for "Scriptable Type Information"
type object (CMF):

## Script (Python) "addMyObject"
##bind container=container
##bind context=context
##bind namespace=
##bind script=script
##bind subpath=traverse_subpath
##parameters=folder, id
##title=
##

folder.Control_Panel.Products.MyProducts.MyObjects.MyObject_add(id)

# folder.manage_addProduct('MyProduct')... doesn't work either

item = getattr(folder, id)

return item

MyObjects is a ZClass that contains MyObject.  The error I get is:

Zope error
Error type AttributeError 
Error value MyObjects

There should be some explanation somewhere how to access resources
inside of Control_Panel, but I fail to find it.  Creating objects is
very confusing and difficult at times...

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