[Zope-dev] CVS trunk vs 2.3 branch (Was: WebDAV locking module?)

2001-04-19 Thread Martijn Pieters

On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 08:49:12AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I checkout the source using the command on the zope web site:
> 
> % cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs-repository login
> % cvs -z7 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs-repository checkout Zope2
> 
> What's this branch you speak of?

That is the trunk, the main line on the CVS server, that you are checking
out. Once a Zope second-dot version goes gold, however, it gets it's own
release branch, onto which we only check in bug fixes and very small
features (if they are of direct benefit).

So, the Zope 2.3 series has its own branch, called zope-2_3-branch. To
check out from that branch, add '-d zope-2_3-branch' to your checkout
command (I use the short 'co' for it):

  % cvs -z7 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs-repository co -d zope-2_3-branch 
Zope2

Or you can switch an existing CVS sandbox to that tree by using the update
command ('up' is the short version) in the root directory of the sandbox:

  % cvs -z7 up -d zope-2_3-branch

Don't forget to recompile the extensions!

Especially if you are using the sandbox for production systems, or
development ment for production systems, you really want to avoid using
the trunk! We will *very* soon be switching the trunk to requiring Python
2.1, and as you discovered, new features in the trunk will not be found in
current releases. That's why we use this system..

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Re: [Zope-dev] How do I call an HTMLFile in context provided by apath

2001-04-19 Thread Itai Tavor

Tres Seaver wrote:

>Itai Tavor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>  Dieter Maurer wrote:
>>
>>  >Itai Tavor writes:
>>  >  > P.S Now that aq_parent is working... why can't I do
>>  >  > absolute_url() on DTMLFiles :-(
>>  >"absolute_url" is provided by the class "OFS.Traverable".
>>  >Apparently, "DTMLFile" is not derived from it.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >Dieter
>>
>>  Well, obviously... the question is why nobody saw the need to add
>>  Traversable to DTMLFiles...
>
>DTMLFiles are supposed to function as *methods* of their classes;
>methods *don't* have their own 'absolute_url', but return the url
>of the object on which they are called.  DTMLMethods have exactly
>the same semantics:
>
>   
>
>returns the folder/context object's URL, by design.
>
>Tres.

Thanks for replying, and sorry for getting so long to get back to 
your answer. Had a fun week recovering from a hack attack.

Ok, so DTMLFile.absolute_url() should return its container. Except... 
DTMLFiles simply don't have absolute_url - their own or inherited. 
They return an attribute error.

I was going to post a feature request to the collector, but if 
absolute_url on a DTMLFile will return the container, then it's 
pretty useless.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope options order sensitive

2001-04-19 Thread Chris Gray

Hmmm... perhaps an undocumented feature rather than a bug?  Rereading the
doc string I find the description of the -X option mentions a case of
argument order making a difference; -X cancels preceding port options but
not following ones.

On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Chris McDonough wrote:

> I understand.  Congratulations!  You've found your first bug!  ;-)
> 
> Can you file this with the Collector at
> http://classic.zope.org:8080/Collector ?
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Chris Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Chris McDonough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 4:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Zope options order sensitive
> 
> 
> > The example was fictional; the ips and ports have been changed to protect
> > the guilty.  I'm more interested in just understanding how the code works.
> >
> > It just struck me that given the way the server_info function works in
> > z2.py that you could get a situation where you meant to have zope
> > listening on only one address (specified with an -a option), but if
> > options for particular ports are specified for a server, it will listen to
> > that port for all addresses.  An -a will have no effect on what is set by
> > -m, -w, -W, -f, or -P if -a appears on the command line after them.
> >
> > ./start -f 21 -a special.zope.ip
> >
> > will set Zope listening only on the ip address special.zope.ip except it
> > will be listening at _all_ addresses on the machine for ftp requests on
> > port 21, which might not be the result the user intended.  It is not the
> > same as:
> >
> > ./start -f special.zope.ip:21 -a special.zope.ip
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Chris McDonough wrote:
> >
> > > Not really... do you want to only listen on 127.0.0.1?
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Chris Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:43 PM
> > > Subject: [Zope-dev] Zope options order sensitive
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm just beginning my study of the zope source.  Going through z2.py I
> > > > noticed that order matters in specifying command line options.
> > > >
> > > > For instance:   ./start -a 127.0.0.1 -P 8000
> > > > sets HTTP_PORT to:  [('127.0.0.1', '8080')]
> > > > but:./start -P 8000 -a 127.0.0.1
> > > > sets HTTP_PORT to:  [('', '8080')]
> > > >
> > > > I'm not far enough along yet to know if this makes a difference in the
> > > > end.  Does it?
> > > >
> > > > Chris


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Re: [Zope-dev] ZSQL and Normalized databases (or why ZSQL sucks)

2001-04-19 Thread The Doctor What

* Casey Duncan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010419 17:45]:
> Reason: foo=0 is actually foo='0'. foo:int=0 should work like you want.

Same behaviour.  I opened a bug in the collector a while ago about
this:
http://classic.zope.org:8080/Collector/2053/view

A related bug:
http://classic.zope.org:8080/Collector/2045/view


> This is a function of your field naming convention more than anything.
> Granted you don't always have control over that. I am surprised that
> name="spam.eggs" doesn't work on sqltests (it works everywhere else).
> Are you explicitly saying name="..."? that could be the problem, bare
> quoting assumes expr="..." where periods are significant.

It works with sqltest, actually.  But since a lot of people have
examples of chaining the namespaces, this breaks that and adds more
work since you can't alias (via AS) to dotted names.

> > Can I use them from a python script?  If not, what's the point?  I
> > mean: External methods are nice to have when you have *no other
> > choice*, but they aren't something I'd want to debug and deal with
> > for object.
> 
> Python scripts are quite helpful for calling ZSQL methods. Just remember
> to pass REQUEST or the arguments explicitly.

Yeah, I like that, but it's still not perfect, and the docs are
incomplete and scattered.  We need a system to pull together like
documents at zope.org

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Re: [Zope-dev] ZSQL and Normalized databases (or why ZSQL sucks)

2001-04-19 Thread Casey Duncan

The Doctor What wrote:
> 
> * Paul Erickson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010419 17:02]:
> > The Doctor What wrote:
> > > > * Loosing the variable between the form and dtml-if
> >
> > I don't understand this.  I'm assuming that you are losing values that
> > are not in your argument list.  All you have to do is add the arguments.
> 
> That isn't what I mean.  Try this (typed in, so it may need to be
> adjusted):
> foo=0
> Life is good
> 
> You'll NEVER get Life is good to print out.  EVER.  This is because
> ZSQL is setting foo to 0.  But dtml-var and dtml-sqlvar both work.
> 

Reason: foo=0 is actually foo='0'. foo:int=0 should work like you want.

> >
> > Database normalization isn't really an issue.  It sounds like you're
> > really just having problems with the syntax of joins.
> 
> Nope, can do joins.  Been doing joins (mainly inner).  Not the
> problem.  The problem is that if I have tables like:
> Table1
> --
> id
> name
> desc
> 
> Table2
> --
> id
> Table1ID   <-- Foreign Key thrown in for fun.
> name
> desc
> 
> And I join them, then I MUST rename all the selects using AS:
> select
>   Table1.id as id1
>   Table1.name as name1
> ...etc
> 
> Because I can't have zsql put the variables in the caller's
> namespace as "Table1.id".  It puts them in as "id" (without the AS).
> 
> Fortunately, I found the column for sqltest (which is the other end
> of ZSQL):
>  

This is a function of your field naming convention more than anything.
Granted you don't always have control over that. I am surprised that
name="spam.eggs" doesn't work on sqltests (it works everywhere else).
Are you explicitly saying name="..."? that could be the problem, bare
quoting assumes expr="..." where periods are significant.
> 
> Can I use them from a python script?  If not, what's the point?  I
> mean: External methods are nice to have when you have *no other
> choice*, but they aren't something I'd want to debug and deal with
> for object.

Python scripts are quite helpful for calling ZSQL methods. Just remember
to pass REQUEST or the arguments explicitly.

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Re: [Zope-dev] WebDAV locking module?

2001-04-19 Thread richard

Martijn Pieters wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 09:43:02AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Colour me confused...
> >
> > I just downloaded the 2.3.2 beta tarball and tried to run our application
> > against it. It appears that the locking module (webdav.Lockable) is missing
> > from webdav. We develop against the CVS, and the file is there. It has been
> > since 2.3.1 CVS - though the 2.3.1 tarball doesn't seem to have the module
> > either...
> 
> No it hasn't. It is in the trunk CVS, the 2.3 branch does not have the
> WebDAV locks feature. Are you sure your CVS checkout is a branch checkout?

I checkout the source using the command on the zope web site:

% cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs-repository login
% cvs -z7 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs-repository checkout Zope2

What's this branch you speak of?


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Re: [Zope-dev] ZSQL and Normalized databases (or why ZSQL sucks)

2001-04-19 Thread The Doctor What

> Thanks.  So I'm still having trouble.  I can't get any of the list
> examples to work.
> 
> I build a select multiple list, and then try to dtml-in on it.  It
> doesn't seem to work.  REQUEST shows in it th other and form
> namespaces, as a list, but I can't actually dtml-var it or anything.
> 
> Example:
> qp
> 
> 
> db
> 
> 
> 
> 
> If you call this with this URL (substitute as needed):
> 
>http://docwhat.gerf.org:9673/links/test?dalist%0D%0A%3Alist=1&dalist%0D%0A%3Alist=3&dalist%0D%0A%3Alist=8
> 
> Which is the URL pattern formed by a  multiple>
> 
> Then you get errors on dalist.  The examples at
> http://www.zope.org/Members/AlexR/SelectionLists
> 
> Don't work as exactl above.
> 
> Help?

My problem. I decoded the %0D and %0A (newline and space) and
figured out that I foo-barred a bit of code.  I'm happy again.  It
works great with only the %3A.  It *is* weird that it looked correct
on the REQUEST output. :-S

Thanks anyway.

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Re: [Zope-dev] ZSQL and Normalized databases (or why ZSQL sucks)

2001-04-19 Thread The Doctor What

* Paul Erickson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010419 17:02]:
> The Doctor What wrote:
> > > * Loosing the variable between the form and dtml-if
> 
> I don't understand this.  I'm assuming that you are losing values that
> are not in your argument list.  All you have to do is add the arguments.

That isn't what I mean.  Try this (typed in, so it may need to be
adjusted):
foo=0
Life is good

You'll NEVER get Life is good to print out.  EVER.  This is because
ZSQL is setting foo to 0.  But dtml-var and dtml-sqlvar both work.

> > > * Inability to handle table.field names for variables
> > > * And enough flexibility to work around the above problems
> > >
> > > This makes ZSQL extreamely nasty, and impossible to use with a
> > > normalized database.
> 
> Database normalization isn't really an issue.  It sounds like you're
> really just having problems with the syntax of joins.

Nope, can do joins.  Been doing joins (mainly inner).  Not the
problem.  The problem is that if I have tables like:
Table1
--
id
name
desc

Table2
--
id
Table1ID   <-- Foreign Key thrown in for fun.
name
desc

And I join them, then I MUST rename all the selects using AS:
select
  Table1.id as id1
  Table1.name as name1
...etc

Because I can't have zsql put the variables in the caller's
namespace as "Table1.id".  It puts them in as "id" (without the AS).

Fortunately, I found the column for sqltest (which is the other end
of ZSQL):
 > >
> > > What's the point?  ZSQL sucks, how do I talk to the DB directly?
> 
> Grab the Python database adapter and write some python classes or
> external methods to do what you need.

Can I use them from a python script?  If not, what's the point?  I
mean: External methods are nice to have when you have *no other
choice*, but they aren't something I'd want to debug and deal with
for object.

> > This makes things work MUCH better.  So there are work arounds.
> 
> This isn't a work-around, it is the way that it is intended to be used.

I didn't see a single example of it.  The Zope Book didn't mention
this at all (except as a single line reference).  I would *never*
have gone looking for the word column.  Why? It's a field!

> Again, I think that it's a matter of understanding how ZSQL works,
> rather than a limitation of ZSQL.  If you have column name conflicts,
> you can always use something like:
> 
> SELECT a.field as a_field, b.field as b_field FROM ...
> 
> Then refer to them in dtml like &dtml-a_field; or  name="a_field">

Right, but you still have to do extra work to get them back into a
ZSQL object.  column lets you do that.  It's got no examples to help
out with.  It's documented once.  I didn't see it.  Life is better
now.

> > I still would love some examples.  Do people end up with 4 ZSQL
> > objects per thing they manipulate in their database?:
> > UPDATE, SELECT, INSERT and DELETE?  Or do they mix them somehow?
> 
> I typically wind up with a ZSQL method for each of the CRUD operations. 
> Sometimes I have separate selects methods for more complex joins, if the
> DTML code gets too ugly when I try to combine them into a single method.
>
> 
> Example of a fairly typical join statement (for MySQL database):
> 
> Arguments-
> begin_date:date end_date:date="2037-01-01"
> 
> SELECT search_string, search_result,  search_date, result_category,
> legal_category.name
> FROM search_log LEFT JOIN legal_category ON
> search_log.result_category=legal_category.code
> 
> 
>  column="search_date">
> 
>  column="search_date" optional>
> 

Hey!  An example!

> Good Luck

Thanks.  So I'm still having trouble.  I can't get any of the list
examples to work.

I build a select multiple list, and then try to dtml-in on it.  It
doesn't seem to work.  REQUEST shows in it th other and form
namespaces, as a list, but I can't actually dtml-var it or anything.

Example:
qp


db




If you call this with this URL (substitute as needed):
http://docwhat.gerf.org:9673/links/test?dalist%0D%0A%3Alist=1&dalist%0D%0A%3Alist=3&dalist%0D%0A%3Alist=8

Which is the URL pattern formed by a 

Then you get errors on dalist.  The examples at
http://www.zope.org/Members/AlexR/SelectionLists

Don't work as exactl above.

Help?

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Re: [Zope-dev] ZSQL and Normalized databases (or why ZSQL sucks)

2001-04-19 Thread Paul Erickson

The Doctor What wrote:
> 
> * The Doctor What ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010419 11:57]:
> > Does any one have an example of ZSQL being used witha normalized
> > database?  Or is ZSQL just useless?
> >
> > Near as I can tell, between:
> > * Broken type marshalling
> > * Loosing the variable between the form and dtml-if

I don't understand this.  I'm assuming that you are losing values that
are not in your argument list.  All you have to do is add the arguments.

> > * Inability to handle table.field names for variables
> > * And enough flexibility to work around the above problems
> >
> > This makes ZSQL extreamely nasty, and impossible to use with a
> > normalized database.

Database normalization isn't really an issue.  It sounds like you're
really just having problems with the syntax of joins.

> >
> > What's the point?  ZSQL sucks, how do I talk to the DB directly?

Grab the Python database adapter and write some python classes or
external methods to do what you need.

> >
> > Yeah, I keep almost getting this to be useful.  But damn it if I
> > don't keep hitting a brick wall.  And there are no complete examples
> > or demos that I can find to load up.
> >
> > Irritatedly yours,
> > DocWhat
> 
> I would like to apologize for being particularly pissy.  Things are
> quite as bad as I say up there...
> 
> My third point is only half true.  I can have SQLTEST specify a
> column name (aka a field):
> 
> 
> This makes things work MUCH better.  So there are work arounds.

This isn't a work-around, it is the way that it is intended to be used.

  But
> this doesn't excuse this not working:
> SELECT  table.field1, table.field2 FROM 
> 
> and then:
>   <--doesn't work
>  <-- does work
> 
> I know that the '.' has a special meaning, but there should be ways
> around this if the use wants.

Again, I think that it's a matter of understanding how ZSQL works,
rather than a limitation of ZSQL.  If you have column name conflicts,
you can always use something like:

SELECT a.field as a_field, b.field as b_field FROM ...

Then refer to them in dtml like &dtml-a_field; or 

> 
> I still would love some examples.  Do people end up with 4 ZSQL
> objects per thing they manipulate in their database?:
> UPDATE, SELECT, INSERT and DELETE?  Or do they mix them somehow?

I typically wind up with a ZSQL method for each of the CRUD operations. 
Sometimes I have separate selects methods for more complex joins, if the
DTML code gets too ugly when I try to combine them into a single method.


Example of a fairly typical join statement (for MySQL database):

Arguments-
begin_date:date end_date:date="2037-01-01"

SELECT search_string, search_result,  search_date, result_category,
legal_category.name
FROM search_log LEFT JOIN legal_category ON
search_log.result_category=legal_category.code


  

  


Good Luck

-Paul

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Re: [Zope-dev] ZSQL and Normalized databases (or why ZSQL sucks)

2001-04-19 Thread The Doctor What

* Andy McKay ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010419 14:26]:
> Whats the problem with ZSQL? It calls a sql db with the sql statement, what
> more could you want. If you want more, use python.

How?!?!  Documentation? Examples?

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Re: [Zope-dev] ZSQL and Normalized databases (or why ZSQL sucks)

2001-04-19 Thread The Doctor What

* Paul Browning ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010419 13:53]:
> I wouldn't dream of posting to zope-dev myself until
> I'd read around a bit. And I've been reading around
> for more than a year and I still haven't posted ...

10 months, thought it was enough.  Two and half on this problem
alone.  Thanks for the links below...

> > I still would love some examples.  Do people end up with 4 ZSQL
> > objects per thing they manipulate in their database?:
> > UPDATE, SELECT, INSERT and DELETE?  Or do they mix them somehow?
> 
>  check out the following:
> 
> http://www.zope.org/Members/michel/ZB/RelationalDatabases.dtml

Read it.  Shows one insert, not very interesting.

> and
> http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Guides/ZSQL

Out of date, same thing.  The Zope Book is more up to date, but has
the same example.

> 
> (the latter is now deprecated but you will find
> http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Guides/ZSQL-HTML/ZSQL.1.4.4.html
> useful in the present context - look for sql_delimiter)

I was looking for more concrete examples of a real setup.  You want
to be able to do deletes, inserts, and updates across a real
normalized (3rd or 4th normal form) database.

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[Zope-dev] Zope development firm in Canada

2001-04-19 Thread John Stevenson, idrc.ca

Hello Zope-Dev -

We are looking for a firm that can take on a large Zope developement
project. We need to hire a Canadian firm to do most or all of the work.
Please contact me at the email addres below.

Thanks -

John Stevenson
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Re: [Zope-dev] how to add to the pythonscript allowed import list?

2001-04-19 Thread Chris McDonough

> > I think it will be something along the lines of:
> >
> > from AccessControl import ModuleSecurityInfo
> > ModuleSecurityInfo('Products').declarePublic('SignedEditions')
> >
ModuleSecurityInfo('Products.SignedEditions').declarePublic('stripCardNumber
> > ', 'verifyCardNumber')
>
> Thanks, that worked!
>
> I'm going to file a collector report on that misleading error message.

I'm not sure much will be done about it. ;-)

>
> Also, I did read stuff very similar to the text you pointed me to above,
> in the PythonMethods wiki.  Clearly, it did *not* tell me as a developer
> how to do what the text is saying it is telling me how to do: make it
> so I can import a function in a pythonscript.  So I think you should
> add a note about the need for the
ModuleSecurityInfo('Products').declarePublic
> call, and incorporate it into the example (or another example).

Yes, the wiki is broken.  So is the help system for that matter.  Sigh.

> Also, the text makes a distinction between marking "external" modules
> and marking "embedded" modules.  The former uses the spelling above,
> the latter the "security = ModuleSecurityInfo()" spelling.  As far as
> I can see, what I am doing is the *latter* case, and what I tried
> naively following the directions did not work, but this external
> spelling did.  So something needs to be clarified there, as well.

The fundamental problem is that you need to make explicit declarations for
all packages along the import path.  So making a declaration for a module
that is inside a package won't allow you to import that module unless you've
made security declarations for the containing package.  Since the "Products"
package had no declarations, it was disallowing access.

This is rather confusing and I need to not only fix the ZDG but understand a
bunch of use cases that aren't covered in it.

> I've filed this as a tracker comment on the ZDG, as well.

Thanks!

> --RDM
>
>


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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope options order sensitive

2001-04-19 Thread Chris McDonough

I understand.  Congratulations!  You've found your first bug!  ;-)

Can you file this with the Collector at
http://classic.zope.org:8080/Collector ?


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To: "Chris McDonough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Zope options order sensitive


> The example was fictional; the ips and ports have been changed to protect
> the guilty.  I'm more interested in just understanding how the code works.
>
> It just struck me that given the way the server_info function works in
> z2.py that you could get a situation where you meant to have zope
> listening on only one address (specified with an -a option), but if
> options for particular ports are specified for a server, it will listen to
> that port for all addresses.  An -a will have no effect on what is set by
> -m, -w, -W, -f, or -P if -a appears on the command line after them.
>
> ./start -f 21 -a special.zope.ip
>
> will set Zope listening only on the ip address special.zope.ip except it
> will be listening at _all_ addresses on the machine for ftp requests on
> port 21, which might not be the result the user intended.  It is not the
> same as:
>
> ./start -f special.zope.ip:21 -a special.zope.ip
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Chris McDonough wrote:
>
> > Not really... do you want to only listen on 127.0.0.1?
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Chris Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:43 PM
> > Subject: [Zope-dev] Zope options order sensitive
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I'm just beginning my study of the zope source.  Going through z2.py I
> > > noticed that order matters in specifying command line options.
> > >
> > > For instance:   ./start -a 127.0.0.1 -P 8000
> > > sets HTTP_PORT to:  [('127.0.0.1', '8080')]
> > > but:./start -P 8000 -a 127.0.0.1
> > > sets HTTP_PORT to:  [('', '8080')]
> > >
> > > I'm not far enough along yet to know if this makes a difference in the
> > > end.  Does it?
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope options order sensitive

2001-04-19 Thread Chris Gray

The example was fictional; the ips and ports have been changed to protect
the guilty.  I'm more interested in just understanding how the code works.

It just struck me that given the way the server_info function works in
z2.py that you could get a situation where you meant to have zope
listening on only one address (specified with an -a option), but if
options for particular ports are specified for a server, it will listen to
that port for all addresses.  An -a will have no effect on what is set by 
-m, -w, -W, -f, or -P if -a appears on the command line after them.

./start -f 21 -a special.zope.ip

will set Zope listening only on the ip address special.zope.ip except it
will be listening at _all_ addresses on the machine for ftp requests on
port 21, which might not be the result the user intended.  It is not the
same as:

./start -f special.zope.ip:21 -a special.zope.ip

Chris


On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Chris McDonough wrote:

> Not really... do you want to only listen on 127.0.0.1?
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Chris Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:43 PM
> Subject: [Zope-dev] Zope options order sensitive
> 
> 
> > 
> > I'm just beginning my study of the zope source.  Going through z2.py I
> > noticed that order matters in specifying command line options.
> > 
> > For instance:   ./start -a 127.0.0.1 -P 8000
> > sets HTTP_PORT to:  [('127.0.0.1', '8080')]
> > but:./start -P 8000 -a 127.0.0.1
> > sets HTTP_PORT to:  [('', '8080')]
> > 
> > I'm not far enough along yet to know if this makes a difference in the
> > end.  Does it?
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
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Re: [Zope-dev] how to add to the pythonscript allowed import list?

2001-04-19 Thread R. David Murray

On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Chris McDonough wrote:
> http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZDG/Security.dtml (see Using
> ModuleSecurityInfo Objects)
> 
> I think it will be something along the lines of:
> 
> from AccessControl import ModuleSecurityInfo
> ModuleSecurityInfo('Products').declarePublic('SignedEditions')
> ModuleSecurityInfo('Products.SignedEditions').declarePublic('stripCardNumber
> ', 'verifyCardNumber')

Thanks, that worked!

I'm going to file a collector report on that misleading error message.

Also, I did read stuff very similar to the text you pointed me to above,
in the PythonMethods wiki.  Clearly, it did *not* tell me as a developer
how to do what the text is saying it is telling me how to do: make it
so I can import a function in a pythonscript.  So I think you should
add a note about the need for the ModuleSecurityInfo('Products').declarePublic
call, and incorporate it into the example (or another example).

Also, the text makes a distinction between marking "external" modules
and marking "embedded" modules.  The former uses the spelling above,
the latter the "security = ModuleSecurityInfo()" spelling.  As far as
I can see, what I am doing is the *latter* case, and what I tried
naively following the directions did not work, but this external
spelling did.  So something needs to be clarified there, as well.

I've filed this as a tracker comment on the ZDG, as well.

--RDM


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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope options order sensitive

2001-04-19 Thread Chris McDonough

Not really... do you want to only listen on 127.0.0.1?

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Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 3:43 PM
Subject: [Zope-dev] Zope options order sensitive


> 
> I'm just beginning my study of the zope source.  Going through z2.py I
> noticed that order matters in specifying command line options.
> 
> For instance:   ./start -a 127.0.0.1 -P 8000
> sets HTTP_PORT to:  [('127.0.0.1', '8080')]
> but:./start -P 8000 -a 127.0.0.1
> sets HTTP_PORT to:  [('', '8080')]
> 
> I'm not far enough along yet to know if this makes a difference in the
> end.  Does it?
> 
> Chris
> 
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Re: [Zope-dev] Opening the Zope repository...

2001-04-19 Thread Andy McKay

That's a great idea. Obligatory code reviews are great but might be too much
work at this point.
--
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> Hi folks. Feedback would be much appreciated on this, especially
> any potential issues we may have missed:
>
>
> http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/OpenTheZopeRepository
>
>
>
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[Zope-dev] Opening the Zope repository...

2001-04-19 Thread Brian Lloyd

Hi folks. Feedback would be much appreciated on this, especially 
any potential issues we may have missed:


http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/OpenTheZopeRepository



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[Zope-dev] Zope options order sensitive

2001-04-19 Thread Chris Gray


I'm just beginning my study of the zope source.  Going through z2.py I
noticed that order matters in specifying command line options.

For instance:   ./start -a 127.0.0.1 -P 8000
sets HTTP_PORT to:  [('127.0.0.1', '8080')]
but:./start -P 8000 -a 127.0.0.1
sets HTTP_PORT to:  [('', '8080')]

I'm not far enough along yet to know if this makes a difference in the
end.  Does it?

Chris


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Re: [Zope-dev] ZSQL and Normalized databases (or why ZSQL sucks)

2001-04-19 Thread Andy McKay

Whats the problem with ZSQL? It calls a sql db with the sql statement, what
more could you want. If you want more, use python.

Cheers.
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Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] ZSQL and Normalized databases (or why ZSQL sucks)


>
>
> --On 19 April 2001 13:00 -0500 The Doctor What <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > * The Doctor What ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010419 11:57]:
> >> Does any one have an example of ZSQL being used witha normalized
> >> database?  Or is ZSQL just useless?
>
> [intemperate stuff snipped]
>
> I wouldn't dream of posting to zope-dev myself until
> I'd read around a bit. And I've been reading around
> for more than a year and I still haven't posted ...
>
> >
> > I still would love some examples.  Do people end up with 4 ZSQL
> > objects per thing they manipulate in their database?:
> > UPDATE, SELECT, INSERT and DELETE?  Or do they mix them somehow?
>
>  check out the following:
>
> http://www.zope.org/Members/michel/ZB/RelationalDatabases.dtml
> and
> http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Guides/ZSQL
>
> (the latter is now deprecated but you will find
> http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Guides/ZSQL-HTML/ZSQL.1.4.4.html
> useful in the present context - look for sql_delimiter)
>
> Paul
>
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Re: [Zope-dev] ZSQL and Normalized databases (or why ZSQL sucks)

2001-04-19 Thread Paul Browning



--On 19 April 2001 13:00 -0500 The Doctor What <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> * The Doctor What ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010419 11:57]:
>> Does any one have an example of ZSQL being used witha normalized
>> database?  Or is ZSQL just useless?

[intemperate stuff snipped]

I wouldn't dream of posting to zope-dev myself until
I'd read around a bit. And I've been reading around
for more than a year and I still haven't posted ...

>
> I still would love some examples.  Do people end up with 4 ZSQL
> objects per thing they manipulate in their database?:
> UPDATE, SELECT, INSERT and DELETE?  Or do they mix them somehow?

 check out the following:

http://www.zope.org/Members/michel/ZB/RelationalDatabases.dtml
and
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Guides/ZSQL

(the latter is now deprecated but you will find
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Guides/ZSQL-HTML/ZSQL.1.4.4.html
useful in the present context - look for sql_delimiter)

Paul

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Re: [Zope-dev] how to add to the pythonscript allowed import list?

2001-04-19 Thread Chris McDonough

This may help:

http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZDG/Security.dtml (see Using
ModuleSecurityInfo Objects)

I think it will be something along the lines of:

from AccessControl import ModuleSecurityInfo
ModuleSecurityInfo('Products').declarePublic('SignedEditions')
ModuleSecurityInfo('Products.SignedEditions').declarePublic('stripCardNumber
', 'verifyCardNumber')


- Original Message -
From: "R. David Murray " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:56 PM
Subject: [Zope-dev] how to add to the pythonscript allowed import list?


> I've got a little Product that does some init hacks.  One of the
> things I want to do is expose a couple of python fuctions such that
> they can be imported into pythonscripts.  After much spelunking in
> the mailing list and the PythonMethods wiki on zope.org, I *think*
> that what I need to do is something like this:
>
> --
> from AccessControl import ModuleSecurityInfo
>
> security = ModuleSecurityInfo()
>
> security.declarePublic('SignedEditions')
> security.declarePublic('stripCardNum','verifyCardNumber')
> from cccheck import stripCardNum, verifyCardNumber
>
> security.apply(globals())
> --
>
> Now, that SignedEditions one is my attempt to solve the following
> error message when I attempt to do 'from SignedEditions import
stripCardNum':
>
> Error Type: ImportError
> Error Value: import of "SignedEditions" is unauthorized
>
> However, it does not solve the problem.
>
> Hmm.  I just noticed that I forgot to prefix that with "Products.".
> Which would seem to make that error message a bug, since SignedEditions
> shouldn't exist in the import path.  If I do
>
> from Products.SignedEditions import stripCardNum
>
> then ZDebug tells me:
>
> Unauthorized: Access denied for , has no
security assertions.
>
> What do I need to do to assert that it is OK to import from the
> SignedEditions product? The wiki does not seem to address this
> question at all, though it implies that it is possible, since it
> *does* talk about the above assertions to declare things *inside*
> the product as importable.
>
> (Oh, BTW, I tried changing 'security' to "ZopeSecurity", but that didn't
> seem to change the behavior).
>
> --RDM
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Re: [Zope-dev] ZSQL and Normalized databases (or why ZSQL sucks)

2001-04-19 Thread The Doctor What

* The Doctor What ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010419 11:57]:
> Does any one have an example of ZSQL being used witha normalized
> database?  Or is ZSQL just useless?
> 
> Near as I can tell, between:
> * Broken type marshalling
> * Loosing the variable between the form and dtml-if
> * Inability to handle table.field names for variables
> * And enough flexibility to work around the above problems
> 
> This makes ZSQL extreamely nasty, and impossible to use with a
> normalized database.
> 
> What's the point?  ZSQL sucks, how do I talk to the DB directly?
> 
> Yeah, I keep almost getting this to be useful.  But damn it if I
> don't keep hitting a brick wall.  And there are no complete examples
> or demos that I can find to load up.
> 
> Irritatedly yours,
> DocWhat

I would like to apologize for being particularly pissy.  Things are
quite as bad as I say up there...

My third point is only half true.  I can have SQLTEST specify a
column name (aka a field):


This makes things work MUCH better.  So there are work arounds.  But
this doesn't excuse this not working:
SELECT  table.field1, table.field2 FROM 

and then:
  <--doesn't work
 <-- does work

I know that the '.' has a special meaning, but there should be ways
around this if the use wants.

I still would love some examples.  Do people end up with 4 ZSQL
objects per thing they manipulate in their database?:
UPDATE, SELECT, INSERT and DELETE?  Or do they mix them somehow?

Ciao!


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[Zope-dev] how to add to the pythonscript allowed import list?

2001-04-19 Thread R. David Murray

I've got a little Product that does some init hacks.  One of the
things I want to do is expose a couple of python fuctions such that
they can be imported into pythonscripts.  After much spelunking in
the mailing list and the PythonMethods wiki on zope.org, I *think*
that what I need to do is something like this:

--
from AccessControl import ModuleSecurityInfo

security = ModuleSecurityInfo()

security.declarePublic('SignedEditions')
security.declarePublic('stripCardNum','verifyCardNumber')
from cccheck import stripCardNum, verifyCardNumber

security.apply(globals())
--

Now, that SignedEditions one is my attempt to solve the following
error message when I attempt to do 'from SignedEditions import stripCardNum':

Error Type: ImportError
Error Value: import of "SignedEditions" is unauthorized

However, it does not solve the problem.

Hmm.  I just noticed that I forgot to prefix that with "Products.".
Which would seem to make that error message a bug, since SignedEditions
shouldn't exist in the import path.  If I do

from Products.SignedEditions import stripCardNum

then ZDebug tells me:

Unauthorized: Access denied for  because 
its container, , has no security 
assertions.

What do I need to do to assert that it is OK to import from the
SignedEditions product? The wiki does not seem to address this
question at all, though it implies that it is possible, since it
*does* talk about the above assertions to declare things *inside*
the product as importable.

(Oh, BTW, I tried changing 'security' to "ZopeSecurity", but that didn't
seem to change the behavior).

--RDM


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[Zope-dev] PropertyManagerEvents Proposal (was: [Zope] CatalogAware does not work?)

2001-04-19 Thread Casey Duncan

I have created a proposal in the fishbowl to discuss extending the event
API to include properties:

http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Proposals/PropertyManagerEvents

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[Zope-dev] ZSQL and Normalized databases (or why ZSQL sucks)

2001-04-19 Thread The Doctor What

Does any one have an example of ZSQL being used witha normalized
database?  Or is ZSQL just useless?

Near as I can tell, between:
* Broken type marshalling
* Loosing the variable between the form and dtml-if
* Inability to handle table.field names for variables
* And enough flexibility to work around the above problems

This makes ZSQL extreamely nasty, and impossible to use with a
normalized database.

What's the point?  ZSQL sucks, how do I talk to the DB directly?

Yeah, I keep almost getting this to be useful.  But damn it if I
don't keep hitting a brick wall.  And there are no complete examples
or demos that I can find to load up.

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[Zope-dev] SmartObjects - Developers needed

2001-04-19 Thread Stephan Richter

Hello everyone,

SmartObjects (at http://demo.iuveno-net.de/iuveno/Products/SmartObjects) is 
not longer only an idea but we are going into some serious design 
discussions and plan to have our first release at the beginning of June 
(see release schedule). Since we want to make the framework as flexible and 
user-friendly as possible, we would love to get input on the design and 
hear about new ideas. Furthermore, we need developers, who would like to 
help!!! The project is totally Open Source.

So, if you are interested, go to 
http://demo.iuveno-net.de/iuveno/Products/SmartObjects and look around. If 
you like what you see, just sign up for the mailing list and join our 
discussion.

Regards,
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Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog.indexes()

2001-04-19 Thread Chris McDonough

It's going to stay in there for the time being.  If it needs to go away,
it won't be yanked without a deprecation period that will be more
clearly announced than the "this should go away" in the wiki.

Chris Withers wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I read in the interfaces wiki (I think :-S) that the indexes() method of
> ZCatalog is being deprecated.
> Is this still accurate?
> 
> If so, how _should_ I be asking a ZCatalog for a list of it's indexes? I'd also
> like to know their types if possible :-)
> 
> cheers,
> 
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Re: [Zope-dev] Catalog in 2.3.1

2001-04-19 Thread Chris McDonough

If this error is the "expected integer key" TypeError (the error value
isn't mentioned), it's indeed fixed in CVS and in 2.3.2b1

See http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope-checkins/2001-April/005802.html
for a patch against 2.3.1.

> Adrian Hungate wrote:
> 
> Are there some problems with the new catalog?
> 
> I have spotted two possible problems:
> 1) In CatalogAware, there is a function reindex_all, which appears to
> have a few problems, like calling index_object instead of
> reindex_object. Also, why "sub = self.objectValues()" when sub is
> never used?
> 
> 2) If I search a text index for a value that it does not contain, I
> get nothing back (No surprises there), but if I search for a word that
> is a substring of a word in the index, I get a Type Error (expected
> integer key). Did I do something wrong, or have I hit a bug?
> 
> Here is the traceback of the following search. A Title index that
> contains the word "wibble", search for the single word "wib":
> 
> Traceback (innermost last):
>   File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 223,
> in publish_module
>   File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 187,
> in publish
>   File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Zope\__init__.py, line 221, in
> zpublisher_exception_hook
> (Object: catalog_support)
>   File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 171,
> in publish
>   File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\ZPublisher\mapply.py, line 160,
> in mapply
> (Object: results)
>   File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 112,
> in call_object
> (Object: results)
>   File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\App\special_dtml.py, line 127,
> in __call__
> (Object: results)
>   File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\DocumentTemplate\DT_String.py,
> line 538, in __call__
> (Object: results)
>   File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\DocumentTemplate\DT_Let.py, line
> 146, in render
> (Object: rs="Catalog.searchResults(REQUEST)")
>   File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\DocumentTemplate\DT_Util.py,
> line 334, in eval
> (Object: Catalog.searchResults(REQUEST))
> (Info: REQUEST)
>   File , line 0, in ?
>   File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Products\ZCatalog\ZCatalog.py,
> line 535, in searchResults
> (Object: Traversable)
>   File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Products\ZCatalog\Catalog.py,
> line 651, in searchResults
>   File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Products\ZCatalog\Catalog.py,
> line 542, in _indexedSearch
>   File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\SearchIndex\UnTextIndex.py, line
> 513, in _apply_index
>   File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\SearchIndex\UnTextIndex.py, line
> 576, in query
>   File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\SearchIndex\UnTextIndex.py, line
> 616, in evaluate
>   File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\SearchIndex\UnTextIndex.py, line
> 448, in __getitem__
> TypeError: (see above)
> 
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Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog waaaagh!

2001-04-19 Thread Chris McDonough

Yeah, except I put another search-related bug in there just especially
for you.  ;-)

See the PTK list for a patch...

Chris Withers wrote:
> 
> Chris McDonough wrote:
> >
> > I know why this is, but I'm not going to fix it tonight... sigh.
> >
> > I need to go cry on Jim's shoulder for a bit before I check a proper fix in.
> 
> I'm guessing the fix for this is in 2.3.2b1?
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Chris

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Re: [Zope-dev] External transaction integration bug?

2001-04-19 Thread John D. Heintz

I can't directly address the concerns you've raised, but for my project 
I have rewritten TM.py to work better within the begin/vote/finish/abort 
protocol framework.  I've also added more documentation.

John

Randall F. Kern wrote:

> I may just be missing something obvious here, but it seems like there is
> a hole in ZODB.Transaction.Transaction.commit and Shared.DC.ZRDB.TM.TM,
> that can cause external transactions (those that use the TM mixin class,
> like psycopg) to be abandoned (never get committed or rolled back).
> 
> Let's say somewhere around line 300 in Transaction.py (the call to
> j.commit(o, self)) we get an exception.  Furthermore, let's say the TM
> derived database object has already been committed (the only effect of
> which is to move the DB into the jars mapping, since TM.tpc_begin() and
> TM.commit() both do nothing).
> 
> The exception dumps us down to about line 353, where we call
> _p_jar.abort() on all the uncommitted objects (note: it's important that
> the database connection isn't in this list, because TM.abort() will
> rollback the transaction.  the way we keep the db out of this list is by
> having it appear in objects _before_ the object that failed the commit).
> 
> Next we reach line ~366, where we should "unwind TPC for the jars that
> began it".  What this means is calling tpc_abort() on each jar from the
> objects that were already committed (which includes the database).
> However, TM.tpc_abort() does nothing, leaving the external database
> transaction open.
> 
> Does this make sense?
> 
> If this makes sense (i.e. seems bad :), does catching tpc_abort() in TM
> and calling TM.abort() seem like a valid fix?
> 
> Thanks,
> -Randy
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[Zope-dev] Building a Zope Site from a Source Distribution

2001-04-19 Thread Eric Roby

Could anyone point me to documentation or instructions on how to build Zope
to a particular version of Python.  My goal is to understand the process so
that I can do this on the Win32, Linux RPM and Solaris distributions (make
directives, etc...).  My first attempt will be focused on the Win32
distribution.  I have Borland's C++ compiler (the one that has been released
to the public). I have looked at the Win32 source distribution and the
build_extensions.py file makes reference to setup20 and setup15 files in the
lib/python folder.  They aren't there so I am a bit puzzled as to the
purpose of this build script.

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Re: [Zope-dev] html version of zope site

2001-04-19 Thread Toby Dickenson

On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:19:45 +0200, Mike Blake
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>Please give me your thoughts on this workaround 
>solution.

Zope likes to include absolute urls in its generated html. During
development you will want these to refer to your development server,
but before taking a copy of your content you will need to use
VirtualHostMonster (or something similar) so that they refer to the
final server.

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[Zope-dev] html version of zope site

2001-04-19 Thread Mike Blake

Hi! 

First of all:
We have a client that (because of lame internal policy) 
will not be able to install zope on the final server.
However, they _do_ want zope as a publishing solution
for a web that will be practically nothing but dtml docs,
images, and folders. They're only intested in accessing
the web interface to modify text in custom zclass product
interfaces we will make for them.

Provided that there are no complicated methods integrated
into the zope structure, is it possible to generate a
navegable static html version of a zope hierarchy?

Our idea is to let them access our server to manage
and edit content and to give them a publish option
(written in python or perl) that generates the html 
and ftps the site to a remote, non-zope webserver.

The day that the client wants a more dynamic site
with searching and such, we would discuss installing
zope again on the remote server.

Please give me your thoughts on this workaround 
solution.

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Re: [Zope-dev] WebDAV locking module?

2001-04-19 Thread Martijn Pieters

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> 
> I just downloaded the 2.3.2 beta tarball and tried to run our application
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> from webdav. We develop against the CVS, and the file is there. It has been
> since 2.3.1 CVS - though the 2.3.1 tarball doesn't seem to have the module
> either...

No it hasn't. It is in the trunk CVS, the 2.3 branch does not have the
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RE: [Zope-dev] Catalog in 2.3.1

2001-04-19 Thread Adrian Hungate
Title: RE: [Zope-dev] Catalog in 2.3.1





Does anyone know if/when this will make it into a release? I am about to deploy a Helpdesk/Knowledge Base product which is very heavily Catalog based.

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-Original Message-
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To: Adrian Hungate
Cc: Zope Developers List (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] Catalog in 2.3.1



* Adrian Hungate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010419 10:09]:
> Are there some problems with the new catalog?
> 
> I have spotted two possible problems:
> 1) In CatalogAware, there is a function reindex_all, which appears to have a
> few problems, like calling index_object instead of reindex_object. Also, why
> "sub = self.objectValues()" when sub is never used?
> 2) If I search a text index for a value that it does not contain, I get
> nothing back (No surprises there), but if I search for a word that is a
> substring of a word in the index, I get a Type Error (expected integer key).
> Did I do something wrong, or have I hit a bug?


Don't know much about (1), but (2) is certainly a bug, and seems to
have been fixed in CVS.


seb





[Zope-dev] ZCatalog.indexes()

2001-04-19 Thread Chris Withers

Hi,

I read in the interfaces wiki (I think :-S) that the indexes() method of
ZCatalog is being deprecated.
Is this still accurate?

If so, how _should_ I be asking a ZCatalog for a list of it's indexes? I'd also
like to know their types if possible :-)

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope-dev] How to choose: Or, Not and And when using searchResults().

2001-04-19 Thread Chris Withers



Chris McDonough wrote:
> 
>  keywordindex=['flop'])">
> 

Chris, how hard would it be to expose ZCatalog's set lazy union and intersection
operators?
IIRC, ZCatalog does a lot of this internally so it shouldn't be that hard to do?
(right?! ;-)

If you could expose it, then you could construct the above query as:



Could this be done easily?

cheers,

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Re: [Zope-dev] ZCatalog waaaagh!

2001-04-19 Thread Chris Withers

Chris McDonough wrote:
> 
> I know why this is, but I'm not going to fix it tonight... sigh.
> 
> I need to go cry on Jim's shoulder for a bit before I check a proper fix in.

I'm guessing the fix for this is in 2.3.2b1?

cheers,

Chris

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Re: [Zope-dev] Catalog in 2.3.1

2001-04-19 Thread seb bacon

* Adrian Hungate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010419 10:09]:
> Are there some problems with the new catalog?
> 
> I have spotted two possible problems:
> 1) In CatalogAware, there is a function reindex_all, which appears to have a
> few problems, like calling index_object instead of reindex_object. Also, why
> "sub = self.objectValues()" when sub is never used?
> 2) If I search a text index for a value that it does not contain, I get
> nothing back (No surprises there), but if I search for a word that is a
> substring of a word in the index, I get a Type Error (expected integer key).
> Did I do something wrong, or have I hit a bug?

Don't know much about (1), but (2) is certainly a bug, and seems to
have been fixed in CVS.

seb

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[Zope-dev] Catalog in 2.3.1

2001-04-19 Thread Adrian Hungate
Title: Catalog in 2.3.1





Are there some problems with the new catalog?


I have spotted two possible problems:
1) In CatalogAware, there is a function reindex_all, which appears to have a few problems, like calling index_object instead of reindex_object. Also, why "sub = self.objectValues()" when sub is never used?

2) If I search a text index for a value that it does not contain, I get nothing back (No surprises there), but if I search for a word that is a substring of a word in the index, I get a Type Error (expected integer key). Did I do something wrong, or have I hit a bug?

Here is the traceback of the following search. A Title index that contains the word "wibble", search for the single word "wib":

Traceback (innermost last):
  File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 223, in publish_module
  File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 187, in publish
  File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Zope\__init__.py, line 221, in zpublisher_exception_hook
    (Object: catalog_support)
  File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 171, in publish
  File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\ZPublisher\mapply.py, line 160, in mapply
    (Object: results)
  File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\ZPublisher\Publish.py, line 112, in call_object
    (Object: results)
  File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\App\special_dtml.py, line 127, in __call__
    (Object: results)
  File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\DocumentTemplate\DT_String.py, line 538, in __call__
    (Object: results)
  File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\DocumentTemplate\DT_Let.py, line 146, in render
    (Object: rs="Catalog.searchResults(REQUEST)")
  File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\DocumentTemplate\DT_Util.py, line 334, in eval
    (Object: Catalog.searchResults(REQUEST))
    (Info: REQUEST)
  File , line 0, in ?
  File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Products\ZCatalog\ZCatalog.py, line 535, in searchResults
    (Object: Traversable)
  File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Products\ZCatalog\Catalog.py, line 651, in searchResults
  File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\Products\ZCatalog\Catalog.py, line 542, in _indexedSearch
  File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\SearchIndex\UnTextIndex.py, line 513, in _apply_index
  File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\SearchIndex\UnTextIndex.py, line 576, in query
  File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\SearchIndex\UnTextIndex.py, line 616, in evaluate
  File C:\PROGRA~1\WebSite\lib\python\SearchIndex\UnTextIndex.py, line 448, in __getitem__
TypeError: (see above)


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[Zope-dev] Help! - I want to understand Acquisition...

2001-04-19 Thread Bernie Rossi

Hi,

First of all I'm converting an existing (and working) Zope
product from version 2.1.4 to 2.3.1 and I'm having the following
problem when trying to run the (new) converted version.

In a dtml document which is run many times for different types of
objects ie. something like

  
  . . .
  " ... >
  . . .
  

where it iterates through a list of objects,
I get mixed results which I don't understand.

When it works the getIcon function returns the path
(using the REQUEST namespace) and icon for
the particular object type and then this gets rendered as expected.

But when it fails the icon for the type does not get rendered
at all (understandably). After some debugging (ie. print statements)
I found that when it failed the REQUEST namespace was not passing
what I expected (it was empty), and when I tried to print the namespace
it printed the following;

  

So the python function (getIcon()) was expecting the REQUEST object
but actually getting (it seems) is a derived (and unexpected) object,
and failing when looking for particular attributes.

I don't understand this behaviour (why it works for some and not others
and why it worked in a previous version of Zope) and therefore how to fix
it.

Any help or pointers on the above or other relevant issues to upgrading
older products would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance
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