[Zope-dev] Re: command-line zope.org product upload ?

2001-06-24 Thread Jerome Alet

Hi,

Simon Michael wrote:

 Morten W. Petersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Cool.  And maybe some apt-get functionality?  Like 'zope-apt-get
 dist-upgrade'?  :-)
 uh, Jerome ? Hey, uh, me and the folks on the list think there's this
 one little extra that would make zshell perfect.. :)

Sorry for being late, I hadn't yet subscribed to this list.

I'd love to do this, however it seems to be very difficult until 
a standard Zope package file format exists. See my posts on this 
subject on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

However I think a shell command could help, e.g. in ZShell 
dialog box you'd type something like:

shell apt-get update
shell apt-get upgrade

This would do it, but you'll need to have an apt-get wrapper which would
have to be setuid root, so this would be very dangerous.

the best solution is of course to standardize on one file format,
and tweak Distutils to do what we want, then adding zope-apt-get to ZShell
(or why not directly to Zope) will be trivial.

bye,

Jerome Alet

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[Zope-dev] Speed up the learning curve

2001-06-24 Thread Rene Pijlman

A suggestion to cut the Zope learning curve down by half a day...

When the programmer forgets the docstring in a method of a Python-based
product, instead of saying

Sorry, the requested resource does not exist.

Zope could say:

  Sorry, this method has no docstring.

Yes, I know this behaviour is well-documented. But the message gives no clue
to lead the unwary newbie from the error to the documentation.

There are so many useful things I could have done in this half day :-/

Regards,
René Pijlman


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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: ZPL and GPL licensing issues

2001-06-24 Thread Morten W. Petersen

On 22 Jun 2001, Simon Michael wrote:

 Now here, I have to assume RMS is using combine above to mean
 combine and redistribute.
 
 I hope I'm right ? If combine included install zwiki on your zope
 installation and use it then everything I know is wrong..  I did
 intend for that to be fairly danger-free.

I'm not sure, I've fired off another email to get a clarification.

While we're one the topic, I just read an article [1] over at Kuro5hin
that could enlighten the management over at Digicool and us as well; it
discusses the impacts of Free Software and relates it to Free Trade, talks
about barriers and other interesting things.

From the practical point of view, being able to use GPL-ed software with
Zope is a Good Thing (TM) for most developers.

Another thing is that some people / companies may be reluctant to add
signifcant modules that could be included in the Zope core, as they will
not get the same level of recognition for their work as Digital Creations
would.

For me personally, a Zope license without the advertising clause would
motivate me, as the 'protection barrier' / 'restriction' / 'attribution
issue' wouldn't be there;  I have a ton of things I'd like to change in
Zope and add to Zope, and as time goes by, the who-gets-credit-issue will
undoubtedly be raised again, if we're so lucky that Digicool decides to
open up Zope for read/write CVS access.

[1] http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001/6/23/3451/16661

-Morten



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Re: [Zope-dev] Wildcards in TextIndex query. Do they work?

2001-06-24 Thread Chris McDonough

Abel, many thanks for this analysis, I've put this into the
Collector...

On Sat, 23 Jun 2001 22:59:32 +0200
 abel deuring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Erik,
 
 I'm afraid that your patch does not solve all the
 problems you mentioned
 in an earlier mail.

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