Re: [Zope-dev] Zope RPMs/debs and Linux FHS
*) Byte compiling: Why not schedule an 'at' job to do the byte compile? The only reason I care about when the files are compiled is that if the files are byte-compiled in the rpm build root, tracebacks will contain references to the buildroot in the python filenames. I could do it in postinstallation, but then I'd need to clean up the py[co] files manually during uninstall which seems a little icky. I suppose for real releases we could just not use a buildroot, but this is not too convenient. Chris, please use always a buildroot ! You can set an option in the compile-all script that tell python to set the real realase path in the tracebacks. Regards, Dirk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope RPMs/debs and Linux FHS
On Mon, 2002-10-14 at 03:14, Dirk Datzert wrote: Chris, please use always a buildroot ! You can set an option in the compile-all script that tell python to set the real realase path in the tracebacks. This is true, but the branch no longer uses compileall. Instead, distutils does the work. I suppose we could fall back onto compileall. Thanks, - C ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope-2.6.0b1] Property Problem
On Saturday 12 Oct 2002 2:41 pm, Yusei Tahara wrote: and Folder title attribute is string not ustring. so change it. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope-2.5.1 restart failed
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 11:24:57 +0100 Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andre Schubert wrote: 2002-10-11T06:01:00 ERROR(200) ZODB Couldn't load state for '\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00\x00T' Traceback (innermost last): File /usr/share/zope/lib/python/ZODB/Connection.py, line 447, in setstate File /usr/share/zope/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py, line 582, in load (Object: /var/zope/var/Data.fs) File /usr/share/zope/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py, line 558, in _load (Object: /var/zope/var/Data.fs) ValueError: I/O operation on closed file Yeah, I've seen this too. Is your zope running in a chroot'ed / jail'ed environment? This is the only time I've seen it, should it be classed as a bug? cheers, Chris I have a installation without chroot or jail, everything is normal. greets, as ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Idea: Awaking Zope to Life
Hi Chris, thanks for your hint .. You may also be interested in http://cvs.zope.org/Products/Scheduler/ (it has a dependency on http://cvs.zope.org/Products/Event/ and a Zope = than 2.6b1). It relies on an external clock process to tickle it every so often, but you could of course kick off a Zope thread to do this... I have looked over the sources. this Product avoids much of the trouble through calling from an external-xmlrpc-source .. that behaves like a normal http-request (auth, contexts, threading,...) I think i want a higher resolution timer with less overhead (main-loop). .. I will explore this territory during the next weeks .. thanks Ulrich Eck net-labs Systemhaus GmbH Ebersberger Str. 46 85570 Markt Schwaben fon: +49-8121-4747-11 fax: +49-8121-4747-77 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.net-labs.de ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] DateTime.rfc822() bug?
From: Geir Bækholt [EMAIL PROTECTED] i can confirm that this is a bug in DateTime.rfc822(), and that rfc-conformant mailclients choke on it aswell.. Oh, man, I've looked at DateTime now, and it's a mess... (ar at least, the timeone hadnling is). I'm seriously considering making rfc822() into this: def rfc822(self): Return the date in RFC 822 format return '%s, %2.2d %s %d %2.2d:%2.2d:%2.2d %s' % ( self._aday,self._day,self._amon,self._year, self._hour,self._minute,self._nearsec,'-') That would return the RFC2822 format that explicitly specifies that there is no timezone information included... At least that would make it compliant. :-/ A better way would be storing the timzone offset internally in the DateTime object and using it, but there timezone handling is spread out all over the place, so I haven't really gotten a grip on it yet. Best Regards Lennart Regebro, Torped http://www.easypublisher.com/ ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope-2.5.1 restart failed
Andre Schubert wrote: I have a installation without chroot or jail, everything is normal. Sounds like a job for http://collector.zope.org... cheers, Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope RPMs/debs and Linux FHS
On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 04:12:34PM -0400, Chris McDonough wrote:
| *) Ownership/perms on the 'var' dir, this will need to be the same as the
| user Zope runs as, which I assume is not the same as ${zopeuser}
|
| Well, I had thought for default installs, the %{zopeuser} will be zope
| and this user will indeed be both the owner of the var dir and the owner
| of the process. Do you think there is a better way?
Seems like very good solution.
| Minor personal request:
| *) Is there any way to detect if apache is installed, and have zope run as
| the apache user? This would be great for CGI support, etc.
|
| What user does apache run as? apache?
www-data on debian.
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Re: [Zope-dev] Idea: Awaking Zope to Life
On Sun, 2002-10-13 at 13:44, Ulrich Eck wrote: Hi there, I just had an Idea and want to hear your comments on the following: Zope is a Request-Based System. It has no internal scheduling functions except one installs Xron. I have written a MicroThread Scheduler using python2.2 generators that supply cooperative Multithreading. Now the point: I want to integrate this Scheduler as one Thread (like Xron) to Zope as Service where clients could register a callback with parameters which are called regularly with a certain priority. [...] What are the pitfalls i can run into, when trying to implement this ?? I could think of concurrency issues, problem with threads, context, security .. any concrete hints ?? Check your transaction boundaries. One of the reasons that most solutions are based on an external request is that the Zope request handler starts a transaction in the begining of the request and commits it at the end (or rolls it back if there's an exception). What do you think about that ?? Nice idea. It certainly opens a lot of possibilities (and maybe a huge can of worms :-). Hope you can pull it off :-) -- Ideas don't stay in some minds very long because they don't like solitary confinement. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Security Testing
Hi, I'd like to build a suite of security tests for a product I'm writing using unittest.py. Is this possible? I thought about using newSecurityManager with various known users, and restrictedTraverse to get to the appropriate methods, but then how do I test if those methods are callable? cheers, Chris PS: How is all this being tackled in Zope 3? ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Idea: Awaking Zope to Life
Hi Leonardo, Check your transaction boundaries. One of the reasons that most solutions are based on an external request is that the Zope request handler starts a transaction in the begining of the request and commits it at the end (or rolls it back if there's an exception). this is basically done by get_transaction().begin/commit/rollback + cleanup per executed MicroThread. We have played a lot with Zope-Transactions I think this is manageable .. Thanks for the Hint :) Nice idea. It certainly opens a lot of possibilities (and maybe a huge can of worms :-). Hope you can pull it off :-) Thats one of the points I could think of too .. to really make all this work, one must probably simulate different users, that run the processes and plug into the security-machinery .. I haven't explored this in detail yet. thank for your reply Ulrich Eck net-labs Systemhaus GmbH Ebersberger Str. 46 85570 Markt Schwaben fon: +49-8121-4747-11 fax: +49-8121-4747-77 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.net-labs.de ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Debugging conflict errors? Hints please!
Thanks Jeremy, but could you speak more slowly please? ;-) Which debug log are you refering to? There is nothing in the stupid log, and Big M logging does also not give me any indication of conflicts or oids. Do I have to run everything inside pdb? I also do not seem to figure out where the ConflictErrors are raised. I have added log messages to every single occurrence of raise ConflictError in lib/python/ZODB/* but I never see any of them... Stefan --On Freitag, 11. Oktober 2002 11:15 -0400 Jeremy Hylton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SHH == Stefan H Holek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The debug log should show the oid that caused the conflict error. From the oid, you ought to be able to figure out what the object is -- class, etc. -- and then what transactions have modified that object. Can anyone recommend a simple strategy for either of these two steps? There's got to be a good way to do it, but I'm not sure what the best way is. I'd open the database in an interactive prompt: db.open()[oid] That would get me the object. Then I'd use fsdump to find all the transactions that include that oid. That would be a very manual process since I'd just grep the textual dump of the storage. Jeremy -- Those who write software only for pay should go hurt some other field. /Erik Naggum/ ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Security Testing
Chris! You might want to take a look at my ZopeTestCase package. It supports Zope security testing with users, roles, permissions and all. http://www.zope.org/Members/shh/ZopeTestCase/ Also see the tests coming with the ReplaceSupport and DocFinderEverywhere products. In essence restrictedTraverse() will work. Alternatively you could call getSecurityManager().validate() or .validateValue() directly. HTH, Stefan --On Montag, 14. Oktober 2002 15:49 +0100 Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'd like to build a suite of security tests for a product I'm writing using unittest.py. Is this possible? I thought about using newSecurityManager with various known users, and restrictedTraverse to get to the appropriate methods, but then how do I test if those methods are callable? cheers, Chris PS: How is all this being tackled in Zope 3? -- Those who write software only for pay should go hurt some other field. /Erik Naggum/ ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope RPMs/debs and Linux FHS
On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 06:28:37PM -0400, Chris McDonough wrote: Hi all, I am working towards a unified Zope configuration and installation system on a branch of Zope named the 'chrism-install-branch'. I have given the buildout process on that branch the ability to create an RPM distribution of Zope. I intend later to give the buildout process the ability to create Debian .debs as well and maybe Solaris packages... I am doing this with the expectation that we might be able to provide RPM and .deb distros of Zope from zope.org instead of our current generic Linux as tarball distro. I haven't looked yet at the Debian packaging of Zope (by Gregor Hoffleit), but I intend to do that next to get some more ideas. I will be honest here. I don't care a lot about how the debian files are packaged, or where. But I do not want to see two sets of debs with differing layouts. I would rather that either Chris become an official debian maintainer and take over zope (and thereby upload it to the normal repositories), or that he leave debian packaging to Gregor, or whoever succeeds him. There is no reason that zope.org cannot have a short paragraph or two on installing zope under debian, which points people to the normal repositories; or alternatively, there is no reason that zope.org cannot mirror debian's zope and related packages. Jim Penny ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope RPMs/debs and Linux FHS
On Mon, 2002-10-14 at 11:50, Jim Penny wrote: I will be honest here. I don't care a lot about how the debian files are packaged, or where. But I do not want to see two sets of debs with differing layouts. I would rather that either Chris become an official debian maintainer and take over zope (and thereby upload it to the normal repositories), or that he leave debian packaging to Gregor, or whoever succeeds him. There is no reason that zope.org cannot have a short paragraph or two on installing zope under debian, which points people to the normal repositories; or alternatively, there is no reason that zope.org cannot mirror debian's zope and related packages. Agreed. It would be nice, however, to have the files placed by default in the same places under RedHat and Debian binaries, and the source distro, however, so the instructions are uniform. I realize this may not be a a good idea in the face of historical distributions, and I wouldn't even think of doing it without buy-in from all interested parties. I'd rather not become the Debian maintainer, so there's some self-interest here as well. ;-) - C ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope RPMs/debs and Linux FHS
I will be honest here. I don't care a lot about how the debian files are packaged, or where. But I do not want to see two sets of debs with differing layouts. Not only talking about debs distro layouts. There should be one install instruction for all linux distros, which takes care about FHS. This should be official published under zope.org. On this base an RPM can build. If installation places changes from 2.4.4/2.5.1 to 2.6 than it simple changes. A notification mail on RPM install can tell that to the user. Distro maintainer like SuSE doing that this way. Regards, Dirk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope RPMs/debs and Linux FHS
On Mon, 2002-10-14 at 13:03, Jim Penny wrote: I have no opposition to an attempt to standardize the location of ZOPE_HOME and LOCATION_HOME. (I also don't see it as that big a deal, people to whom this matters, who are presumed capable enough to be trusted with the root password, should be capable of reading /usr/share/doc/zope/README.Debian.gz.) But, if zope.org wishes to maintain a set of .deb packages, then zope.org really, really, needs to become the official debian packager (and hence the suggestion that Chris become an official debian developer); or they really, really need to stay out of it, and simply point debian users elsewhere. FWIW, I have no intention of doing anything to upset the apple cart. From what I've heard so far, it sounds like it would be quite difficult to standardize file locations. It's much easier for me to let it go and to hell with standardization. If I can make any of the current maintainers' lives easier by creating a make debdist based off the current control file and whatnot that does the right thing for the current Debian Zope file layout, I would be happy do do so, I just need to know that there's demand. - C ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] CallProfiler?
I was looking for a recent version of CallProfiler. It's cannonical page on: http://www.zope.org/Members/richard/CallProfiler/ mentions that it's reported not to work in 2.5.x and that it'd be integrated into Zope 2.6, which makes me believe that the version available for download won't work with 2.6 either. What is the status of this wonderful product wrt Zope 2.6? -- Ideas don't stay in some minds very long because they don't like solitary confinement. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
