[Zope-dev] Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [ZODB-Dev] change date vs. save date
I agree. Is there any reason for ZODB to actually keep timestamps rather than just use serial version ids? Most storages need a timestamp anyway for time-related packing. (I understand calls to get the system tiem are expensive, incrementing an integer number by one should be somewhat less expensive...) No more expensive than any other OS call. ZODB currently uses only a few calls to time() per transaction, so there is little to be saved. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] using dtml-in to call zsql method
i am using the dtml-in tag to call a zsql method based on the results of this query i call aanother dtml document. however i am getting a error when i submit the form it trys to download the page it is calling next is this a common error? Is there any other way i can call a zsql method and make the results available to the rest of a dtml document without using the dtml-in? heres the code i am using dtml-in expr="sql_query_cust_request_authorize(CustName=CustName,userName=userName,password=password)"dtml-if db_username dtml-call expr="sql_query_cust_request_authorize(CustName=CustName,userName=userName,password=password,policies='mainUser')" dtml-if db_policies dtml-var send_customer_request dtml-else Here2 dtml-var cust_authorize_fail /dtml-ifdtml-else dtml-var cust_authorize_fail/dtml-if/dtml-in cheers
Re: [Zope-dev] 2.6.1 Plan?
Ross J. Reedstrom wrote: It what world do you live, and can I move there? You miss the point ;-) The flurry to get features into a 'stable' release is what I was on about. If you flurry, the release won't be stable. I like the pattern of having stable releases and CVS or nightly builds for people who want the latest and greatest. That way everyone gets to contribute easily and freely and yet we still get truly stable versions. Maybe not to the extent of having seperate 'dev' and 'stable' streams a la Linux, but that's a good feeling in essence. Still, the overarching thing is release early and often. The fewer features in each release, the fewer problems of I need this feature, but that means I also have to accept this one that I don't trust cheers, Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] My 2.6.0 feature patch didn't make it!?
Brad Clements wrote: http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/Zope2.6/ProposedFeatures But the passive port range patch didn't make it into 2.6 Do you have CVS access? cheers, Chris ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Web Services for Zope; what happened?
I'd like to know what happened to this proposal: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/WebServicesForZope/FrontPage Is the WebServices package (CVS) working? Any technical reason why it was discontinued? Thanks, Stefan -- Those who write software only for pay should go hurt some other field. /Erik Naggum/ ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] My 2.6.0 feature patch didn't make it!?
On 30 Oct 2002 at 11:25, Chris Withers wrote: Brad Clements wrote: http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/Zope2.6/ProposedFeatures But the passive port range patch didn't make it into 2.6 Do you have CVS access? No. I emailed both sets of patches to .. Brian (?) at the same time. Brad Clements,[EMAIL PROTECTED] (315)268-1000 http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax AOL-IM: BKClements ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] My 2.6.0 feature patch didn't make it!?
Better put the patches at a public place (member area on zope.org). -aj --On Mittwoch, 30. Oktober 2002 08:57 -0500 Brad Clements [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30 Oct 2002 at 11:25, Chris Withers wrote: Brad Clements wrote: http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/Zope2.6/ProposedFeatures But the passive port range patch didn't make it into 2.6 Do you have CVS access? No. I emailed both sets of patches to .. Brian (?) at the same time. Brad Clements,[EMAIL PROTECTED] (315)268-1000 http://www.murkworks.com (315)268-9812 Fax AOL-IM: BKClements ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) - -Andreas Jung http://www.andreas-jung.com - - EMail: andreas at andreas-jung.com - -Life is too short to (re)write parsers - - ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] [ANN] Proposal: Integration of reStructuredText into Zope
Hi. +2 I like this Proposal very much. It allow to use multibyte charctor in document:-) Regards. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] [ANN] Proposal: Integration of reStructuredText intoZope
Really ? Did you made some experiences with unicode/utf-8 and restructuredtext? -aj --On Donnerstag, 31. Oktober 2002 00:30 +0900 Yusei TAHARA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. +2 I like this Proposal very much. It allow to use multibyte charctor in document:-) Regards. - -Andreas Jung http://www.andreas-jung.com - - EMail: andreas at andreas-jung.com - -Life is too short to (re)write parsers - - ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
RE: [Zope-dev] Web Services for Zope; what happened?
I'd like to know what happened to this proposal: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/WebServicesForZope/FrontPage Is the WebServices package (CVS) working? Any technical reason why it was discontinued? Thanks, Stefan I'd still like to see that get finished one day. What happened is that a) there are no paying customers driving continued development and b) I haven't had any extra time to devote to it for a long while. Parts of it are working (see the unit tests for info). As for technical reasons, the next big step is to parse and model XML Schema info. There is not currently (or at least there wasn't last I checked) a drop-in library for this that exposed what I felt would be needed, and I definitely don't have the time to implement one :) An alternative would be to implement interfaces similar to what Apache's Axis does (punt and let the programmer figure it out) when faced with non-simple data types. There are enough technologies (and constant changes to those technologies) in the WS world that it requires real stakeholders, people who use WS as a part of their day job to keep up and manage a real-world usable Web Services package. Right now I don't use WS in my day job, so I'm not that guy. I've had a number of people inquire about the status of the package, but so far no one willing to volunteer to move things forward. If you (or anyone else) is interested, I'd be happy to provide any guidance I can. Brian Lloyd[EMAIL PROTECTED] V.P. Engineering 540.361.1716 Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] 2.6.1 Plan?
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Chris Withers wrote: The flurry to get features into a 'stable' release is what I was on about. If you flurry, the release won't be stable. I like the pattern of having stable releases and CVS or nightly builds for people who want the latest and greatest. That way everyone gets to contribute easily and freely and yet we still get truly stable versions. That's how FreeBSD tries to handle it (except that you do your own nightly builds if you want that). But every time, just before freature freeze time, there is a flurry of commits. Once feature freeze happens, however, there are only bug fixes. Likewise, with Zope my impression is that once the Beta is cut, we are in feature freeze. Now, ZC may not have operated that way in the past *entirely*, but I think we should from now on. A flurry of commits *before* feature freeze seems unaviodable, however. That's what deadlines are for, after all grin. --RDM ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] 2.6.1 Plan?
On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, at 04:22 AM, Chris Withers wrote: Ross J. Reedstrom wrote: It what world do you live, and can I move there? You miss the point ;-) The flurry to get features into a 'stable' release is what I was on about. If you flurry, the release won't be stable. I like the pattern of having stable releases and CVS or nightly builds for people who want the latest and greatest. That way everyone gets to contribute easily and freely and yet we still get truly stable versions. Maybe not to the extent of having seperate 'dev' and 'stable' streams a la Linux, but that's a good feeling in essence. Still, the overarching thing is release early and often. The fewer features in each release, the fewer problems of I need this feature, but that means I also have to accept this one that I don't trust But release often is a BITCH for software configuration management. Good for developers, bad for deployers. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] My 2.6.0 feature patch didn't make it!?
On Wednesday, October 30, 2002, at 07:07 AM, Andreas Jung wrote: Better put the patches at a public place (member area on zope.org). Or a collector issue, since they do allow file attachments. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
RE: [Zope-dev] 2.6.1 Plan?
Likewise, with Zope my impression is that once the Beta is cut, we are in feature freeze. Now, ZC may not have operated that way in the past *entirely*, but I think we should from now on. A flurry of commits *before* feature freeze seems unaviodable, however. That's what deadlines are for, after all grin. --RDM That has indeed been the case in my experience. Another aspect of this that might not be apparent if you are not the one who happens to be trying to manage the release process is that there is always a delicate balance between enforcing the letter of the law and making concessions to ensure that being a contributor is a rewarding experience rather than a frustrating one. Some things have to be taken on a case-by-case basis, and I can say with some authority that no matter what you choose, some people will praise you and some people will blast you for it :) Keep in mind, too, that the 2.6 release is really the first release that has had anywhere *near* this level of community contribution, so some rough edges should be expected. There is still plenty for all of us to learn. P.S. - I'm planning to do a little revamp of the dev homepage by the end of this week to simplify a few things and hopefully make it easier to know what's going on, as well as posting the plans for 2.6.1 and much-misunderstood 2.7. Brian Lloyd[EMAIL PROTECTED] V.P. Engineering 540.361.1716 Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )