[Zope-dev] zope-dev list policies

2004-06-21 Thread Tim Peters
Over on the zope and zope-dev lists, there's currently agitation to make
them members-only mailing lists.  The point is that spam could not get thru
then (unless posted by a member).

What would zodb-dev members like?

Posting by a list member would not be affected, unless you attempted to send
a message from an email account other than one you subscribed with.  In the
latter case, your message would be bounced back to you.

You could worm around that by subscribing to zodb-dev with that address too,
then going to your list membership page on the web and checking the box to
suspend email delivery on that account.  Then you could post using that
account too, but wouldn't also get zodb-dev email on that account.

I'm the list admin for zodb-dev, and don't have a preference.  If you do,
and it's strong enough to scream it, shout.  The loudest screamer will win
wink.  By default, I won't change the current policy (anyone can post
here, member or not).



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[Zope-dev] Katýlýmýnýzý bekliyoruz

2004-06-21 Thread Melodi Portal
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[Zope-dev] RE: [Zope-Coders] Public CVS and SVN outage, 5:00 to 7:00 PM EST today (21:00-23:00 GMT)

2004-06-21 Thread Ken Manheimer
Yay!

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Tim Peters wrote:

 [Ken Manheimer]
  Most of the keys were not moved - i'm copied them, and you should now be
  good to go.
 
 Yay!  Thank you, Ken.  I'm back in.  This is exactly what a programmer wants
 to hear when he's struggling to make a critical bugfix release against an
 unforgiving deadline wink.
 
 Double-checked, and both CVS and SVN writable checkouts are working here
 again.
 
 Thanks!
 
 sleeping-is-such-sweet-sorrow-ly y'rs  - tim
 
 

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Re: [Zope-dev] Re: [Plone-developers] Re: Five and 2.9

2004-06-21 Thread Jim Fulton
Martijn Faassen wrote:
alan runyan wrote:
Alan, does that address your concerns?

Just understand that the Five approach is still being developed, so
there's nothing to adopt yet. :)  But I certainly encourage folks to
participate and help Martijn figure out what the approach should be.

Raphael, I think its great that Jim responded. Now we (collectively)
need to get some usage out of Five.
Jim, Thanks for explaining ZC's position re: FrankenZope or backporting
CA into Zope2.  One of the big questions that I believe is open is how to
use more of zope.app in Zope 2 - specifically Schema/Widgets.  I heard
that Zope Corp. is using this in some projects.

Note that FrankenZope is going to go for the new way of Interface 
integration last I heard (Five's way); the FrankenZope style setup to 
make interfaces work is not needed anymore since the changes to 
zope.interface that I did. This new approach works in straight 2.7.

I also heard rumors that FrankenZope's use of schema/widgets is actually 
an evolved branch of an earlier version of Zope 3. Five's mission is to 
integrate Zope 3 into Zope 2 as much a possible without having to change 
either. Of course this is not always possible, but it's an important 
goal. That said, I'm sure we could learn more from FrankenZope's 
experiences in that area if someone would to speak up about this.
Can we please stop using this name in writing?  It is funny, but not very
reassuring to outsiders. :)
Jim
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Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Five and 2.9

2004-06-21 Thread Jim Fulton
Janko Hauser wrote:
...
Will this monkeypatch be somewhat of a blessed way to include view 
adapters into zope2?
Yes, subject to my review. :)
Perhaps the monkey patch can be integrated into 2.8.
 Than we
can replace our current approach of using view adapters in union.cms 
with this one.
Or will this be integrated into Zope 2.8 at the end?
Hopefully, depending on timing.
Jim
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