[Zope-dev] Questioning about the Satisfaction of Software Developers within the Zope Community
Hi all, as we from gocept are supporting this diploma thesis, I would love if you could take the time and fill out this questionnaire. Details see below. Thanks, Christian Theune - Dear Zope developers and users, in the context of a diploma thesis at the university of Jena, Germany, supported by gocept GmbH Co KG, I conduct presently an investigation about the satisfaction of active Zope developers. Furthermore, the survey focuses on your perception of your impact within the Zope Community and on your benefits of your collaboration for Zope. The results of the investigation will be made available to the Zope Community. Thus, we hope that this study will contribute to improved collaboration within the Zope Community. The questionnaires will be treated anonymously. The completion of the questionnaire takes about 20 minutes. Please take part! Otherwise the results will not mirror everybodys opinions. The questionnaire is available bilingually (English/German) at http://evaluation.gocept.com and should be filled out by the 26th of October the latest. For queries please contact Katrin Wodzicki via [EMAIL PROTECTED] jena.de In advance I thank you for your support! -- gocept gmbh co. kg - schalaunische str. 6 - 06366 koethen - germany www.gocept.com - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - phone +49 3496 30 99 112 - fax +49 3496 30 99 118 - zope and plone consulting and development signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Python2.4 and Zope 2.7
Hi All, I'm having some trouble getting python2.3.4 running on FreeBSD 5.3b7 on an AMD Opteron, so for kicks tried python2.4rc3. It managed to pass the recursion regex test in test_re.py that was causing python2.3.4 to barf, but in trying to start Zope with python2.4rc3 I get the error below. Does anyone here know if Zope 2.7.0 should work with python 2.4? -Matt zeo1# bin/runzope /usr/local/lib/python2.4/whrandom.py:38: DeprecationWarning: the whrandom module is deprecated; please use the random module DeprecationWarning) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/Startup/run.py, line 49, in ? run() File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/Startup/run.py, line 18, in run opts = _setconfig() File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/Startup/run.py, line 41, in _setconfig opts.realize(doc=Sorry, no option docs yet.) File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/zdaemon/zdoptions.py, line 264, in realize self.load_configfile() File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/zdaemon/zdoptions.py, line 308, in load_configfile self.zconfig_options) File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 43, in loadConfig return _get_config_loader(schema, overrides).loadURL(url) File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 71, in loadURL return self.loadResource(r) File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 183, in loadResource self._parse_resource(sm, resource) File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 234, in _parse_resource parser.parse(matcher) File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/cfgparser.py, line 63, in parse section = self.end_section(section, line[2:-1]) File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/cfgparser.py, line 116, in end_section self.context.endSection( File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 201, in endSection sectvalue = matcher.finish() File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/matcher.py, line 170, in finish return self.constuct() File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/matcher.py, line 212, in constuct v = v.convert(ci.datatype) File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/info.py, line 65, in convert return datatype(self.value) File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/Startup/datatypes.py, line 106, in importable_name package = __import__(n, g, g, component) File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/DBTab/ClassFactories.py, line 18, in ? import OFS.Uninstalled File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/OFS/Uninstalled.py, line 16, in ? import SimpleItem, Globals, Acquisition File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/OFS/SimpleItem.py, line 27, in ? from CopySupport import CopySource File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/OFS/CopySupport.py, line 549, in ? action ='manage_main',) File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 474, in __call__ try: result = render_blocks(self._v_blocks, md) File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/pDocumentTemplate.py, line 202, in render_blocks cond=md[cond] File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/pDocumentTemplate.py, line 140, in __getitem__ v = self.dicts[key] File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/pDocumentTemplate.py, line 100, in __getitem__ raise KeyError, key KeyError: 'v' -- Matt Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Netsight Internet Solutions, Ltd.Business Vision on the Internet http://www.netsight.co.uk +44 (0)117 9090901 Web Design | Zope/Plone Development Consulting | Co-location | Hosting ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Python2.4 and Zope 2.7
On Oct 17, 2004, at 18:13, Matt Hamilton wrote: Hi All, I'm having some trouble getting python2.3.4 running on FreeBSD 5.3b7 on an AMD Opteron, so for kicks tried python2.4rc3. It managed to pass the recursion regex test in test_re.py that was causing python2.3.4 to barf, but in trying to start Zope with python2.4rc3 I get the error below. Does anyone here know if Zope 2.7.0 should work with python 2.4? AFAIK no one has tested it or made any claims it does. More interesting than testing 2.7.0 would be a *recent* 2.7 version (the latest 2.7.3 beta) and maybe 2.8 - unless you're looking for production-quality software. jens ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Python2.4 and Zope 2.7
--On Sonntag, 17. Oktober 2004 17:13 Uhr +0100 Matt Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I'm having some trouble getting python2.3.4 running on FreeBSD 5.3b7 on an AMD Opteron, so for kicks tried python2.4rc3. It managed to pass the recursion regex test in test_re.py that was causing python2.3.4 to barf, but in trying to start Zope with python2.4rc3 I get the error below. Does anyone here know if Zope 2.7.0 should work with python 2.4? -Matt Python 2.4 is still in alpha stage and there are no plans to support Python 2.4 in the short term. -aj ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Python2.4 and Zope 2.7
--On Sonntag, 17. Oktober 2004 17:54 Uhr +0100 Matt Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Jung wrote: Python 2.4 is still in alpha stage and there are no plans to support Python 2.4 in the short term. Is this just a 'its not a good idea as it's not been tested'? or is it 'I know it won't work, because X,Y and Z have changed, which means we need to refactor Zope'? The point is that it has not been testedjust a question of time and resources. We can talk about this issue when Python 2.4 comes near to a final release but I don't see the major benefits of Python 2.4 over 2.3.4 except some improvements in speed. Andreas ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Python2.4 and Zope 2.7
FWIW, the fact that you get the error at that point means that cDocumentTemplate can't be imported (it's using pDocumentTemplate, which nobody uses since it's a fallback). This is probably the root of the problem. I suspect pDocumentTemplate would give the same error on any platform. I would start investigating why cDocumentTemplate fails to import. Yet another example of why conditionals at module scope are evil. - C On Sun, 2004-10-17 at 17:13 +0100, Matt Hamilton wrote: Hi All, I'm having some trouble getting python2.3.4 running on FreeBSD 5.3b7 on an AMD Opteron, so for kicks tried python2.4rc3. It managed to pass the recursion regex test in test_re.py that was causing python2.3.4 to barf, but in trying to start Zope with python2.4rc3 I get the error below. Does anyone here know if Zope 2.7.0 should work with python 2.4? -Matt zeo1# bin/runzope /usr/local/lib/python2.4/whrandom.py:38: DeprecationWarning: the whrandom module is deprecated; please use the random module DeprecationWarning) Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/Startup/run.py, line 49, in ? run() File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/Startup/run.py, line 18, in run opts = _setconfig() File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/Startup/run.py, line 41, in _setconfig opts.realize(doc=Sorry, no option docs yet.) File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/zdaemon/zdoptions.py, line 264, in realize self.load_configfile() File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/zdaemon/zdoptions.py, line 308, in load_configfile self.zconfig_options) File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 43, in loadConfig return _get_config_loader(schema, overrides).loadURL(url) File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 71, in loadURL return self.loadResource(r) File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 183, in loadResource self._parse_resource(sm, resource) File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 234, in _parse_resource parser.parse(matcher) File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/cfgparser.py, line 63, in parse section = self.end_section(section, line[2:-1]) File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/cfgparser.py, line 116, in end_section self.context.endSection( File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 201, in endSection sectvalue = matcher.finish() File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/matcher.py, line 170, in finish return self.constuct() File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/matcher.py, line 212, in constuct v = v.convert(ci.datatype) File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/ZConfig/info.py, line 65, in convert return datatype(self.value) File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/Zope/Startup/datatypes.py, line 106, in importable_name package = __import__(n, g, g, component) File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/DBTab/ClassFactories.py, line 18, in ? import OFS.Uninstalled File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/OFS/Uninstalled.py, line 16, in ? import SimpleItem, Globals, Acquisition File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/OFS/SimpleItem.py, line 27, in ? from CopySupport import CopySource File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/OFS/CopySupport.py, line 549, in ? action ='manage_main',) File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/DT_String.py, line 474, in __call__ try: result = render_blocks(self._v_blocks, md) File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/pDocumentTemplate.py, line 202, in render_blocks cond=md[cond] File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/pDocumentTemplate.py, line 140, in __getitem__ v = self.dicts[key] File /usr/local/Zope-2.7.0/lib/python/DocumentTemplate/pDocumentTemplate.py, line 100, in __getitem__ raise KeyError, key KeyError: 'v' -- Matt Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Netsight Internet Solutions, Ltd.Business Vision on the Internet http://www.netsight.co.uk +44 (0)117 9090901 Web Design | Zope/Plone Development Consulting | Co-location | Hosting ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Python2.4 and Zope 2.7
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:43:34 +0200, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Python 2.4 is still in alpha stage and there are no plans to support Python 2.4 in the short term. It's in beta as of Friday evening; this would be a good time for someone with time to start testing it with various Zope branches (2.7, 2.8/trunk, X3 3.0, X3 trunk). -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr.fdrake at gmail.com Zope Corporation ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Python2.4 and Zope 2.7
chrism wrote: FWIW, the fact that you get the error at that point means that cDocumentTemplate can't be imported (it's using pDocumentTemplate, which nobody uses since it's a fallback). This is probably the root of the problem. I suspect pDocumentTemplate would give the same error on any platform. I would start investigating why cDocumentTemplate fails to import. Doh! I bet it is because I have copied over the install from one of our other servers, and the C components will have been compiled with py2.3, and hence probably not imported successfully into py2.4. Before I realised this I did a fresh install, using Zope 2.7.3b2 and py2.4a3 and after I got all the modules I needed recompiled for py2.4 (PIL, GD, 4Suite, etc.) I started Zope and is still crashed with a Bus Error. Which was what I was getting with py2.3 on FreeBSD/AMD64. So it looks like it just gets a little further with py2.4, but there are still problems. I'll try and get the recursion limit a bit lower and see if that helps it get through. -Matt -- Matt Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Netsight Internet Solutions, Ltd.Business Vision on the Internet http://www.netsight.co.uk +44 (0)117 9090901 Web Design | Zope/Plone Development Consulting | Co-location | Hosting ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Python2.4 and Zope 2.7
Matt Hamilton wrote: chrism wrote: FWIW, the fact that you get the error at that point means that cDocumentTemplate can't be imported (it's using pDocumentTemplate, which nobody uses since it's a fallback). This is probably the root of the problem. I suspect pDocumentTemplate would give the same error on any platform. I would start investigating why cDocumentTemplate fails to import. Doh! I bet it is because I have copied over the install from one of our other servers, and the C components will have been compiled with py2.3, and hence probably not imported successfully into py2.4. Before I realised this I did a fresh install, using Zope 2.7.3b2 and py2.4a3 and after I got all the modules I needed recompiled for py2.4 (PIL, GD, 4Suite, etc.) I started Zope and is still crashed with a Bus Error. Which was what I was getting with py2.3 on FreeBSD/AMD64. So it looks like it just gets a little further with py2.4, but there are still problems. I'll try and get the recursion limit a bit lower and see if that helps it get through. Are you sure that you have applied whatever patch is required to give Python a big enough stack on FreeBSD (Hmm, I foresee a new spam topic, Enlarge your Python's Stack! Make your Zope beg for mercy! ;) Strange crashes reproducible only on *BSD should be checked first against this one: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2003-February/148277.html Tres. -- === Tres Seaver[EMAIL PROTECTED] Zope Corporation Zope Dealers http://www.zope.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Python2.4 and Zope 2.7
--On Sonntag, 17. Oktober 2004 15:14 Uhr -0400 Fred Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 18:43:34 +0200, Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Python 2.4 is still in alpha stage and there are no plans to support Python 2.4 in the short term. It's in beta as of Friday evening; this would be a good time for someone with time to start testing it with various Zope branches (2.7, 2.8/trunk, X3 3.0, X3 trunk). Zope 2.7.3 + Python 2.4 fails when running the unittests: EETraceback (most recent call last): File /develop/sandboxes/Zope-2_7-branch/Zope/lib/python/ZEO/tests/zeoserver.py, line 216, in ? main() File /develop/sandboxes/Zope-2_7-branch/Zope/lib/python/ZEO/tests/zeoserver.py, line 212, in main ThreadedAsync.LoopCallback.loop() File /develop/sandboxes/Zope-2_7-branch/Zope/lib/python/ThreadedAsync/LoopCallback.py, line 156, in loop poll_fun(timeout, map) File /develop/sandboxes/Zope-2_7-branch/Zope/lib/python/ThreadedAsync/LoopCallback.py, line 108, in poll r, w, e = select.select(r, w, e, timeout) select.error: (9, 'Bad file descriptor') -aj ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
