[Zope-dev] Re: Killer App for ZClasses

2007-04-19 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen

On 19 Apr 2007, at 08:25 , Christopher Lozinski wrote:
The problem with upgrading ZClasses is that it would break the zope  
security models, and the Zope Product Model.


That depends on what you by upgrading ZClasses. To make them  
continue to work, simpler changes will probably suffice.


It seems, though, that you want to create this next generation of  
ZClasses that has a simpler security model, form generation built-in  
etc. So that would be a rewrite as you've already mentioned. But I  
don't think it's worth all that work. Writing filessytem code can be  
just as agile. That's of course just one man's opinion.


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[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 5 OK

2007-04-19 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
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Period Wed Apr 18 12:00:00 2007 UTC to Thu Apr 19 12:00:00 2007 UTC.
There were 5 messages: 5 from Zope Unit Tests.


Tests passed OK
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Subject: OK : Zope-2.7 Python-2.3.6 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Wed Apr 18 20:53:16 EDT 2007
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007603.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.8 Python-2.3.6 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Wed Apr 18 20:54:46 EDT 2007
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007604.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.9 Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Wed Apr 18 20:56:17 EDT 2007
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007605.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Wed Apr 18 20:57:48 EDT 2007
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007606.html

Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: Zope Unit Tests
Date: Wed Apr 18 20:59:19 EDT 2007
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007607.html

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[Zope-dev] The ZClass Decision I face

2007-04-19 Thread Christopher Lozinski
Thank you very much for all the support.  A lot of it was warnings about 
the pitfalls facing me.  There was an excellent email in support of 
Grok.   I added that to the ZClass wiki.


While I did not get any software written yet, I am pleased to say that I 
upgraded the Zope Wiki on ZClasses.   Someone should find that helpful.


It is clear that I have a very hard decision in front of me.

Those of us who want to use ZClasses, have a very hard choice to make. 
Stay with a broken ZClass implementation, fix ZClasses and break Zope 2 
and fork the Zope tree, or write a new version of ZClasses in Zope 3 and 
leave our legacy applications behind.


I have been very happy with my Choice of Zope 2 many years ago.  I now 
better understand its limitations.  The problem is that whichever path I 
take, I have to live with it. 


Regards
Chris

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[Zope-dev] Re: Killer App for ZClasses

2007-04-19 Thread Alan Milligan

Christopher Lozinski wrote:

I do have an accounting application I want to bring up quickly, and this 
seems to me the fastest way to bring it up, but also

to have an upgrade path to the future.
We do http://www.last-bastion.net/BastionLedger which is a full double 
entry general ledger with an entire order management workflow suite with 
skinnable order/invoice forms.


Just download it and install it.

Alan
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