Re: [Zope-dev] zope.site.hooks
* 2009-10-07 22:40, Martijn Faassen wrote: I think it would be interesting to review zope.component.zcml and see how it depends on security, and see whether we cannot make the dependency optional too. I fully agree with this, and the main reason why I use a package like repoze.zcml is to get rid of the (unnecessary) dependency on zope.security. The only problem with making the dependency on zope.security optional is related to the permission attribute in the zope.component ZCML directives, which is a zope.security.zcml.Permission. All the proxying stuff can be made optional with conditional imports. I think the only solution to make zope.security optional without removing the permission attribute is to do something like: try: from zope.security.zcml import Permission except ImportError: from zope.schema import TextLine as Permission Do anybody else has better ideas? Thanks, Fabio ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] zope.site.hooks
Fabio Tranchitella wrote: [snip] All the proxying stuff can be made optional with conditional imports. I think the only solution to make zope.security optional without removing the permission attribute is to do something like: try: from zope.security.zcml import Permission except ImportError: from zope.schema import TextLine as Permission Thanks for that feedback, that's indeed a good point to bring up. Time for some conclusions in this thread so that Thomas or someone else can proceed if they want to. * we should move the zope.site.hooks in and make it optionally dependent on zope.security (if it's available). I think we should go ahead with this now. * zope.copmonent.zcml has two issues: * it needs an [zcml] extra with quite a few extra dependencies that are not needed for normal zope.component use * it's dependent on zope.security. Fabio for one has a use case where this dependency isn't needed, and it'd be simpler if it could have all-python dependencies. To resolve the zope.component.zcml issue, I'm going to redo a proposal I did a while ago but ended up in an endless discussion then. I propose we create a new zope.componentzcml package that contains the zope.component.zcml code. This package is *optionally* dependent on zope.security as well as zope.proxy. It should work with just a dependency on zope.i18nmessageid and zope.configuration. We should figure out a way to test out both situations somehow. Ideas? This will net us: * a zope.component package with a lot less extra dependencies. Some packages that depend now on the dependency-heavy zope.site can now depend on zope.component, which should flatten our dependency structure quite a bit. It can be used without zope.security being available. * a zope.componentzcml package. Whenever a package says it needs zope.component [zcml] we're going to say it needs zope.componentzcml. I think that's a very minor upgrade issue if we mark it well in the CHANGES.txt. It can be used without zope.security and zope.proxy being available (the goal should be usability without C compiled extensions). It can also *not* be used at all and repoze.zcml can be used. Such a deployment then won't have the confusing extra implementation of ZCML now in zope.component. Optional dependencies aren't perfect, but I think this would mean a step forward so we should go ahead. Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 8 OK
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Thu Oct 8 12:00:00 2009 UTC to Fri Oct 9 12:00:00 2009 UTC. There were 8 messages: 8 from Zope Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Oct 8 20:45:54 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-October/012736.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.11 Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Oct 8 20:47:54 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-October/012737.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.12 Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Oct 8 20:49:54 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-October/012738.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.12-alltests Python-2.4.6 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Oct 8 20:51:54 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-October/012739.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.12 Python-2.6.2 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Oct 8 20:53:54 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-October/012740.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.12-alltests Python-2.6.2 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Oct 8 20:55:54 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-October/012741.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.6.2 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Oct 8 20:57:54 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-October/012742.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk-alltests Python-2.6.2 : Linux From: Zope Tests Date: Thu Oct 8 20:59:54 EDT 2009 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2009-October/012743.html ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] ZTK sprint at ploneconf2009 Budapest
Hello, Feel free to join at http://www.coactivate.org/projects/ploneconf2009-ztk-sprint/project-home -- Best regards, Adam GROSZER mailto:agros...@gmail.com -- Quote of the day: Democracy is a form of government in which it is permitted to wonder aloud what the country could do under first-class management. - Senator Soaper ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] five.localsitemanager and unregisterUtility
Hello, I used to use those features in Silva. It work well with 0.4, but it's broken in 1.x. (I have tests in Silva testing that). This have to do with the wrapping (to remember the aquisition path) of an utility which is done inside the registry by registerUtility, which breaks the unregisterUtility. unregisterUtility is checking that the component you want to unregister is the same than the one which is in the registry, for the same specification, which is not true, because the one in the registry in wrapped with a ComponentPathWrapper (in register). If you do grep unregisterUtility in five.localsitemanager, you have no match, but the site API defines both, so they should both works (and so be tested). I volunteer myself to add test (and fix it) in the SVN, as I need that fix. Does anyone have an objection with that ? Does any official maintainer will do a release (1.1.1, as it will be a bug fix) afterwards ? (of course, the trunk will need to be fixed if the same problem is present, and no, I do not want to use the trunk, but the 1.x branch). Best regards, Sylvain Viollon -- Sylvain Viollon -- Infrae t +31 10 243 7051 -- http://infrae.com Hoevestraat 10 3033GC Rotterdam -- The Netherlands ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] zope.site.hooks
* 2009-10-09 13:59, Martijn Faassen wrote: I propose we create a new zope.componentzcml package that contains the zope.component.zcml code. This package is *optionally* dependent on zope.security as well as zope.proxy. It should work with just a dependency on zope.i18nmessageid and zope.configuration. We should figure out a way to test out both situations somehow. Ideas? zope.component's dependencies are: install_requires=['setuptools', 'zope.interface', 'zope.event', ], The extra dependencies are: extras_require = dict( hook = ['zope.hookable'], persistentregistry = ['ZODB3'], zcml = ['zope.configuration', 'zope.security', 'zope.proxy', 'zope.i18nmessageid', ], test = ['ZODB3', 'zope.testing', 'zope.hookable', 'zope.location', ], docs = ['z3c.recipe.sphinxdoc'], ), Considering that we are not really getting rid of all the extras, instead of creating a new package I'd rather make the dependency on zope.security and zope.proxy optional in zope.component: it is possible to do it with conditional imports, and we are not breaking any application already depending on zope.component[zcml], unless they need zope.security but they are not directly depending on it (which is bad and wrong, in any case). Note that we are already using conditional imports in zope.component._api. Anyway, I'm fine with what Martijn proposed if nobody else supports my idea. Best regards, Fabio ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Testrunner option for running tests in random order?!?
Hi, On 10/08/2009 03:28 PM, Jonathan Ballet wrote: Hi Christian, On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: Hi, I *thought* the test runner had a feature to run tests in randomized order, but I can't find it. Is that something that Zope 2 had and that was never ported to zope.testing? I couldn't find in the history either. /me is confused. I was about to send the same mail today, but I found out your mail before. I didn't find anything relative to random tests in Zope 2 (but I'm not familiar at all with Zope 2, so I'm pretty sure I could have missed something), and I ended up writing a new feature for zope.testing's testrunner. I made a branch 'shuffle-tests', available on the Mercurial repository at http://bitbucket.org/multani/zope.testing-shuffle/ , which adds two new options: * --shuffle to randomize the order of the tests in a layer (layers are not yet randomized, I didn't look at it yet); * --shuffle-seed XXX, to initialize the RNG with a specific value, which allows to reproduce a specific randomization of tests (inspired by this thread http://lists.idyll.org/pipermail/testing-in-python/2009-April/001812.html ) Sounds right. It could even be folded into a single option: --shuffle[=XXX] It's not yet ready-to-commit: it still misses tests (tricky to write) and more documentation. That's what working branches are for. You do have commit rights, don't you? It's not that tricky to test: seed the RNG from outside the tests. However, feedbacks are welcome! Thanks for the work! Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] five.localsitemanager and unregisterUtility
Hi Sylvain. I'm including Michael here, who's added the mentioned feature in the first place. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Sylvain Viollon sylv...@infrae.com wrote: I used to use those features in Silva. It work well with 0.4, but it's broken in 1.x. (I have tests in Silva testing that). This have to do with the wrapping (to remember the aquisition path) of an utility which is done inside the registry by registerUtility, which breaks the unregisterUtility. unregisterUtility is checking that the component you want to unregister is the same than the one which is in the registry, for the same specification, which is not true, because the one in the registry in wrapped with a ComponentPathWrapper (in register). If you do grep unregisterUtility in five.localsitemanager, you have no match, but the site API defines both, so they should both works (and so be tested). I volunteer myself to add test (and fix it) in the SVN, as I need that fix. Does anyone have an objection with that ? No objection, please go ahead. Does any official maintainer will do a release (1.1.1, as it will be a bug fix) afterwards ? Sure, ping me once you are done and I'll cut a new release. Michael, do you want to test anything, before I do a new release? (of course, the trunk will need to be fixed if the same problem is present, and no, I do not want to use the trunk, but the 1.x branch). There were some changes to the registerUtility code on trunk (incorporating bug fixes from zope.component), but these had to do with re-registering utilities and the implicit unregister that happens during that. As unregisterUtility is still not overridden, I suspect the same problem still exits and your tests should show that. Thanks, Hanno ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Testrunner option for running tests in random order?!?
Hey, On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: * --shuffle to randomize the order of the tests in a layer (layers are not yet randomized, I didn't look at it yet); * --shuffle-seed XXX, to initialize the RNG with a specific value, which allows to reproduce a specific randomization of tests (inspired by this thread http://lists.idyll.org/pipermail/testing-in-python/2009-April/001812.html ) Sounds right. It could even be folded into a single option: --shuffle[=XXX] I'm not sure how to do that, considering those use cases: * the user doesn't want to shuffle its tests and so, doesn't set --shuffle * the user want to shuffle its tests, without specifying an order, and use --shuffle * the user want to shuffle its tests in specific order, and use --shuffle=42 If I want this option to have an optional value, I think I must set a default value to the option. But then, how to make the distinction between the two first cases? I might miss something I don't know in option parsing, but I didn't find anything... It's not yet ready-to-commit: it still misses tests (tricky to write) and more documentation. That's what working branches are for. You do have commit rights, don't you? I don't (personally) have commit rights, but my boss (sdouche) has. I'll see with him. Thanks for your advices! Jonathan ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Testrunner option for running tests in random order?!?
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Jonathan Ballet jonathan.bal...@securactive.net wrote: If I want this option to have an optional value, I think I must set a default value to the option. But then, how to make the distinction between the two first cases? I might miss something I don't know in option parsing, but I didn't find anything... I'd try the same approach as default options in Python functions. Make the default None (which isn't a valid seed) and then you can tell the difference. -- Benji York Senior Software Engineer Zope Corporation ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] zope.site.hooks
Fabio Tranchitella wrote: [snip] Anyway, I'm fine with what Martijn proposed if nobody else supports my idea. I'm okay with *not* doing the split up and going with your idea, but I think eventually such a split up would simplify things. One advantage would be that someone could examine repoze.zcml and not see distracting ZCML implementations in zope.component *too*. Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Testrunner option for running tests in random order?!?
Hi, On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Benji York be...@zope.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Jonathan Ballet jonathan.bal...@securactive.net wrote: If I want this option to have an optional value, I think I must set a default value to the option. But then, how to make the distinction between the two first cases? I might miss something I don't know in option parsing, but I didn't find anything... I'd try the same approach as default options in Python functions. Make the default None (which isn't a valid seed) and then you can tell the difference. That's what I originally though, but then, how can I make the difference between 'the user has not set --shuffle' (the option's value is then None), and 'the user has set the --shuffle option, but without specifying a seed' (then the option's value is None again)? Jonathan ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] ZODB Competing read/writes: How to find out which attribute?
Hi, I once in the while get the following warning in my Zope 3 log, which I'd like to resolve: 2009-10-07T14:35:41 WARNING ZopePublication Competing writes/reads at /BSPSite/act/++vh++http:zis.act.at:80/bankneu/++/c/acc/booklist/index.html: database conflict error (oid 0x7a5d, class BTrees.OOBTree.OOBTree, serial this txn started with 0x0381388ca6804966 2009-10-07 12:28:39.023700, serial currently committed 0x03813893b087d0cc 2009-10-07 12:35:41.374343) I wonder how I can find out, to which attribute this applies, I do know the view and the class, probably BTrees.OOBTree.OOBTree, but don't know the attribute itself. Any clues? Best Regards, Hermann -- herm...@qwer.tk GPG key ID: 299893C7 (on keyservers) FP: 0124 2584 8809 EF2A DBF9 4902 64B4 D16B 2998 93C7 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ZODB Competing read/writes: How to find out which attribute?
Hermann Himmelbauer wrote: Hi, I once in the while get the following warning in my Zope 3 log, which I'd like to resolve: 2009-10-07T14:35:41 WARNING ZopePublication Competing writes/reads at /BSPSite/act/++vh++http:zis.act.at:80/bankneu/++/c/acc/booklist/index.html: database conflict error (oid 0x7a5d, class BTrees.OOBTree.OOBTree, serial this txn started with 0x0381388ca6804966 2009-10-07 12:28:39.023700, serial currently committed 0x03813893b087d0cc 2009-10-07 12:35:41.374343) That URL looks like it should only be reading the database, but the fact that you get a conflict error suggests that the code behind that URL is writing to the database. If I were you, I would first ensure that read operations never write to the database. Shane ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ZODB Competing read/writes: How to find out which attribute?
Hi Hermann Betreff: Re: [Zope-dev] ZODB Competing read/writes: How to find out which attribute? Hermann Himmelbauer wrote: Hi, I once in the while get the following warning in my Zope 3 log, which I'd like to resolve: 2009-10-07T14:35:41 WARNING ZopePublication Competing writes/reads at /BSPSite/act/++vh++http:zis.act.at:80/bankneu/++/c/acc/booklis t/index.html: database conflict error (oid 0x7a5d, class BTrees.OOBTree.OOBTree, serial this txn started with 0x0381388ca6804966 2009-10-07 12:28:39.023700, serial currently committed 0x03813893b087d0cc 2009-10-07 12:35:41.374343) That URL looks like it should only be reading the database, but the fact that you get a conflict error suggests that the code behind that URL is writing to the database. If I were you, I would first ensure that read operations never write to the database. just a hint, sometimes session get accessed with session[key] wich will force a write operation. If so, you can prevent creating a new session by using session.get(key, someDefaultValue) Regards Roger Ineichen Shane ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Zope 2 documentation
Hi Jens, I was looking at Zope 2 documentation. To generate this site : http://docs.zope.org/zope2/ we use the buildout available here, is it ? svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zope2docs/trunk So, can I remove the buildout available inside zdgbook and zope2book ? Also it looks like this patch is required to generate it locally: -x--x-x- Index: buildout.cfg === --- buildout.cfg(revision 104937) +++ buildout.cfg(working copy) @@ -16,6 +16,7 @@ recipe = zc.recipe.egg eggs = Sphinx +docutils interpreter = stxpy scripts = sphinx-build Index: Makefile === --- Makefile(revision 104937) +++ Makefile(working copy) @@ -3,7 +3,7 @@ # You can set these variables from the command line. SPHINXOPTS= -SPHINXBUILD = sphinx-build +SPHINXBUILD = ./bin/sphinx-build PAPER = # Internal variables. -x--x-x- May be we can pin the versions of Sphinx docutils. Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
