[Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)

2010-04-27 Thread Christian Theune

Hi everyone,

another weekly meeting is coming up today and I hope see you again 
around 3pm UTC at #zope at freenode. (That's a bit less than 4 hours 
from now on.)


Last week's summary is here:
https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/attachments/20100421/b1da5f70/attachment-0001.

Agenda
--

- State of bug tracking/LP usage
- zope.app
- emptying out Zope 3 bugs
- dealing with the zope.org project group
- Review bug day outcome
- Windows machines status update

Ongoing issues
--

Those issues are currently ongoing. We don't have to discuss them. We 
just need to follow up on them eventually.


- Bug tracking
  - Monitoring tracker status (Charlie Clark, ctheune)

- Towards a ZTK release
  - Establishing ZTK release engineering team (Z2, grok, BB)
  - Documentation
  - Release scope

- Test runners / nightly builds
- Windows machines

- Meta
  - How to organize open issues in the long run (Blueprints?
Other tool? Continue text files?)
  - Find second person to run the weekly meetings

Horizon
---

These items are currently tracked on the horizon. We won't discuss them
at this meeting, but we'll get to them at some point:

- Pondering *some* (re-)structuring of the ZTK to allow for better
  maintenance/release management/communication/marketing. (Chris
  McDonough)


Christian

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[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 10 OK, 6 Failed

2010-04-27 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list.
Period Mon Apr 26 12:00:00 2010 UTC to Tue Apr 27 12:00:00 2010 UTC.
There were 16 messages: 6 from Zope Tests, 9 from ccomb at free.fr, 1 from ct 
at gocept.com.


Test failures
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Subject: FAILED: Repository policy check found errors in 670 projects
From: ct at gocept.com
Date: Mon Apr 26 21:18:55 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-April/014129.html

Subject: FAILED : ZTK 1.0dev / Python2.5.2 Linux 32bit
From: ccomb at free.fr
Date: Mon Apr 26 23:13:57 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-April/014140.html

Subject: FAILED : ZTK 1.0dev / Python2.4.6 Linux 32bit
From: ccomb at free.fr
Date: Mon Apr 26 23:14:07 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-April/014141.html

Subject: FAILED : ZTK 1.0dev / Python2.6.4 Linux 32bit
From: ccomb at free.fr
Date: Mon Apr 26 23:14:11 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-April/014142.html

Subject: FAILED : Zope 3.4.1 KGS / Python2.4.6 32bit linux
From: ccomb at free.fr
Date: Tue Apr 27 00:22:02 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-April/014143.html

Subject: FAILED : Zope 3.4.1 KGS / Python2.5.2 32bit linux
From: ccomb at free.fr
Date: Tue Apr 27 00:44:43 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-April/014144.html


Tests passed OK
---

Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.6 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Mon Apr 26 21:29:29 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-April/014130.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.11 Python-2.4.6 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Mon Apr 26 21:31:29 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-April/014131.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.12 Python-2.6.4 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Mon Apr 26 21:33:29 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-April/014132.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.12-alltests Python-2.6.4 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Mon Apr 26 21:35:29 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-April/014133.html

Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.6.4 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Mon Apr 26 21:37:29 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-April/014134.html

Subject: OK : Zope-trunk-alltests Python-2.6.4 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Mon Apr 26 21:39:29 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-April/014135.html

Subject: OK : BlueBream template / Python2.4.6 32bit linux
From: ccomb at free.fr
Date: Mon Apr 26 22:01:23 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-April/014136.html

Subject: OK : BlueBream template / Python2.7b1 32bit linux
From: ccomb at free.fr
Date: Mon Apr 26 22:01:29 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-April/014137.html

Subject: OK : BlueBream template / Python2.6.4 32bit linux
From: ccomb at free.fr
Date: Mon Apr 26 22:01:29 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-April/014138.html

Subject: OK : BlueBream template / Python2.5.2 32bit linux
From: ccomb at free.fr
Date: Mon Apr 26 22:01:30 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-April/014139.html

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Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.formjs on win32 + KGS

2010-04-27 Thread Adam GROSZER
Hello Stephan,

I think for the short time I'll just put it back to KGS, because the win32
tests have that much failures that if I would start to fix them the KGS will
never be released. :-S
OTOH, once the win tests pass it would be great to keep them that way.
That means at least a buildbot is needed.
Hopefully there will be some progress on that.

Monday, April 26, 2010, 2:59:04 PM, you wrote:

SR On Saturday 24 April 2010, Adam GROSZER wrote:
 * Use an other JSON converter (simplejson?)

SR Definitely switch to simplejson.

SR Regards,
SR Stephan


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Re: [Zope-dev] pypi access to zope.browserresource, zope.browsermenu

2010-04-27 Thread Martijn Faassen
Stephan Richter wrote:
 On Monday 26 April 2010, Martijn Faassen wrote:
 Could someone give me and Hanno pypi access to zope.browserresource and 
 zope.browsermenu?
 
 I am in the process to give you access to all the packages that I am an owner 
 of (now that PyPI is fixed again. :-)
 
 Let me know if hannosch wants the same.

Thanks! Thanks to you doing this in the previous round, I already was 
the owner already of a huge range of packages, but some of the ones that 
dropped out of refactorings were missing. I'll let Hanno speak for 
himself. :)

Regards,

Martijn

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[Zope-dev] zope.testing 4.0.0 coming up.

2010-04-27 Thread Lennart Regebro
I've been working on zope.tetsing lately. The main impetus behind this
is Python 3 compatibility, but also general cleanup. This work was
discussed on #zope bu Jim Fulton, Stephan Richter,  Charlie Clark and
me. The conclusion was to release a backwards incompatible
zope.testing 4.0.0.

The backwards incompatibility is the following:

1. zope.testing.testrunner is now in it's own module, zope.testrunner.
I will add a deprecation warning to trunk first, and we'll have to
release a new zope.testing 3.x version, then 4.0.0 can be merged.
2. zope.testing.doctest will be dropped. There is already a
deprecation warning about this.

zope.testing 4.0.0 will support Python 3.

Questions? :)

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Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testing 4.0.0 coming up.

2010-04-27 Thread Jonathan Lange
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been working on zope.tetsing lately. The main impetus behind this
 is Python 3 compatibility, but also general cleanup. This work was
 discussed on #zope bu Jim Fulton, Stephan Richter,  Charlie Clark and
 me. The conclusion was to release a backwards incompatible
 zope.testing 4.0.0.

...
 Questions? :)


Is it too late for me to introduce another mildly backwards
incompatible change?

I'd like to add a method to OutputFormatter to handle the specific
case of layer setup/teardown failing and change the rest of the runner
to call that instead of error.

jml
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Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testing 4.0.0 coming up.

2010-04-27 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 21:49, Jonathan Lange j...@mumak.net wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been working on zope.tetsing lately. The main impetus behind this
 is Python 3 compatibility, but also general cleanup. This work was
 discussed on #zope bu Jim Fulton, Stephan Richter,  Charlie Clark and
 me. The conclusion was to release a backwards incompatible
 zope.testing 4.0.0.

 ...
 Questions? :)


 Is it too late for me to introduce another mildly backwards
 incompatible change?

 I'd like to add a method to OutputFormatter to handle the specific
 case of layer setup/teardown failing and change the rest of the runner
 to call that instead of error.

I have no opinion on this. How many tests break in Plone when you do
this change? :)

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Re: [Zope-dev] RFC: Proposed new style for documenting and testing ZTK packages

2010-04-27 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 17.04.2010, 03:41 Uhr, schrieb Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com:

 The trickier testing bits we would re-write as super thorough, no
 shortcuts-taken unit tests:  one testcase class per class (or API
 function) under test, at least one method per class-under-test method,
 with more preferred to get all code paths / preconditions covered.  The
 goal here would be to comment out the doctests from the test_suites and
 get the code to 100% coverage using pure unit tests.  Meanwhile, the
 doctests would be refactored into the Sphinx documentation, losing all
 the bits which obscure their intent as documentation.

I'm all for this but in the past I have struggled mightily (this could be  
an ironic use of the word ;-) with unit tests for views. Is this

1) Because I've overlooked something?

2) Because views depend on too many things, setting up test cases is a lot  
of work?

3) Because it's not been done a lot in the past?

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Re: [Zope-dev] zope.testing 4.0.0 coming up.

2010-04-27 Thread Jim Fulton
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been working on zope.tetsing lately. The main impetus behind this
 is Python 3 compatibility, but also general cleanup. This work was
 discussed on #zope bu Jim Fulton, Stephan Richter,  Charlie Clark and
 me. The conclusion was to release a backwards incompatible
 zope.testing 4.0.0.

 The backwards incompatibility is the following:

 1. zope.testing.testrunner is now in it's own module, zope.testrunner.
 I will add a deprecation warning to trunk first, and we'll have to
 release a new zope.testing 3.x version, then 4.0.0 can be merged.
 2. zope.testing.doctest will be dropped. There is already a
 deprecation warning about this.

 zope.testing 4.0.0 will support Python 3.

 Questions? :)

Just a comment that we should be prepared to maintain zope.testing 3
for some period of time.  Maybe we should explicitly limit this period
(e.g. through the end of 2010.)

Jim

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