Re: [Zope-dev] (re)moving browser subpackage from zc.catalog?

2010-10-06 Thread Michael Howitz
Am 05.10.2010 um 20:21 schrieb Jan-Wijbrand Kolman:
 Hi,
 
 Today I fixed a small bug in zc.catalog (the ftesting.zcml depended on a 
 permission name that has been removed from zope.dublincore).

Actually the permission has been renamed (from zope.app.dublincore to 
zope.dublincore)  to get rid of the app part in its name.

 This made 
 me realize that zc.catalog contains ZMI code in the browser subpackage.
 
 Are people still using this ZMI code from zc.catalog? Would it be an 
 idea to move the ZMI code out of the package (a bit similar to how 
 various zope.app.* package have been refactored)? It would make 
 maintaining this package in respect to the ZTK easier.

zc.catalog has only test dependencies on zope.app.* packages. 
So you do not install these dependencies when using zc.calalog as a library.
The zope.app.* dependencies might need a bit polishing. But I do not see a big 
win moving the browser part into a separate package. Especially as zc.catalog 
should depend on this new package for backward compatibility reasons (at least 
for a while).


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Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.recipe.i18n

2010-10-06 Thread yuppie
Hi!


Jan-Wijbrand Kolman wrote:
 This afternoon I merged the gary-0.8.0 branch for z3c.recipe.i18n. The
 recipe now uses and depends on zc.buildout-1.5.1 features. I'd like to
 release this merge as 0.8.0 as this make it possible to move grok and
 the groktoolkit over to zc.buildout-1.5.1. I guess this is also useful
 in the light of moving the ZTK itself to zc.buildout 1.5.1 at some point.

 Unless there are objections of course :)

+1

But could you please make it more explicit that 0.8.0 drops support for 
zc.buildout 1.4? Your CHANGES.txt note is not clear about that and maybe 
install_requires should specify the new requirement explicitly.

BTW: I just fixed some failing tests on Windows. Hope that doesn't mask 
any real issues.


Cheers,

Yuppie
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Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.recipe.i18n

2010-10-06 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 10/6/10 09:53 , yuppie wrote:
 Hi!


 Jan-Wijbrand Kolman wrote:
 This afternoon I merged the gary-0.8.0 branch for z3c.recipe.i18n. The
 recipe now uses and depends on zc.buildout-1.5.1 features. I'd like to
 release this merge as 0.8.0 as this make it possible to move grok and
 the groktoolkit over to zc.buildout-1.5.1. I guess this is also useful
 in the light of moving the ZTK itself to zc.buildout 1.5.1 at some point.

 Unless there are objections of course :)

 +1

 But could you please make it more explicit that 0.8.0 drops support for
 zc.buildout 1.4? Your CHANGES.txt note is not clear about that and maybe
 install_requires should specify the new requirement explicitly.

I'ld even go so far as to say install_requires must specify such a 
requirement.

Wichert.
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Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.recipe.i18n

2010-10-06 Thread Jan-Wijbrand Kolman
On 10/6/10 9:53 AM, yuppie wrote:
 Jan-Wijbrand Kolman wrote:
 This afternoon I merged the gary-0.8.0 branch for z3c.recipe.i18n. The
 recipe now uses and depends on zc.buildout-1.5.1 features. I'd like to
 release this merge as 0.8.0 as this make it possible to move grok and
 the groktoolkit over to zc.buildout-1.5.1. I guess this is also useful
 in the light of moving the ZTK itself to zc.buildout 1.5.1 at some point.

 Unless there are objections of course :)

 +1

 But could you please make it more explicit that 0.8.0 drops support for
 zc.buildout 1.4? Your CHANGES.txt note is not clear about that and maybe
 install_requires should specify the new requirement explicitly.

Yes, agreed.
regards, jw


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Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.recipe.compattest buildout 1.5/1.4 compatibility

2010-10-06 Thread Wolfgang Schnerring
* Jan-Jaap Driessen jdries...@thehealthagency.com [2010-10-05 18:09]:
 Version 0.12.2 of z3c.recipe.compattest is not compatible with recent
 versions of it's dependencies zc.buildout (v1.5.1), zc.recipe.egg
 (v1.3.2) and z3c.recipe.scripts. I fixed this in revision 117253.
 Is it OK with you to drop compatibility with zc.buildout versions 
 1.5 in the next release of z3c.recipe.compattest?

I'm a little confused what's going on here. Could you explain this with
a bit more details?

I think my main questions are
- Where and when, exactly, did which API change (it's related to recipe
  options AFAICT from the diff)
- What does this have to do with buildout 1.5?
- Is it a) really the case and b) intentional that buildout 1.5 breaks
  compatibility with 1.4? (Thus, can't this be avoided, possibly by
  fixing buildout 1.5?)

I'm all for moving forward, but I don't really understand why the
1.5-update should cause such compatibility breakage.

Wolfgang

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Re: [Zope-dev] z3c.recipe.compattest buildout 1.5/1.4 compatibility

2010-10-06 Thread Jan-Wijbrand Kolman
On 10/6/10 12:49 PM, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote:
 * Jan-Jaap Driessenjdries...@thehealthagency.com  [2010-10-05 18:09]:
 Version 0.12.2 of z3c.recipe.compattest is not compatible with recent
 versions of it's dependencies zc.buildout (v1.5.1), zc.recipe.egg
 (v1.3.2) and z3c.recipe.scripts. I fixed this in revision 117253.
 Is it OK with you to drop compatibility with zc.buildout versions
 1.5 in the next release of z3c.recipe.compattest?

 I'm a little confused what's going on here. Could you explain this with
 a bit more details?

 I think my main questions are
 - Where and when, exactly, did which API change (it's related to recipe
options AFAICT from the diff)
 - What does this have to do with buildout 1.5?
 - Is it a) really the case and b) intentional that buildout 1.5 breaks
compatibility with 1.4? (Thus, can't this be avoided, possibly by
fixing buildout 1.5?)

 I'm all for moving forward, but I don't really understand why the
 1.5-update should cause such compatibility breakage.

I think in this particular case z3c.recipe.compattest relied on 
zc.buildout internals that now have have changed. So, no, I do not think 
it really is an API change and as such it is not intentional breakage 
nor something that __should__ be fixed in buildout.

Ideally, z3c.recipe.compattest would be fixed in such a way that is does 
make use of official buildout APIs.

Still there's the case that quite some recipes need to be updated to 
zc.buildout 1.5.x if they want to use its new features (system python 
support). Grok would really like to (easing beginners-installation for 
example). That's why we try to fix this recipes.

BTW, I discussed updating the z3c.recipe.i18n for similar reasons - to 
support newer buildout features - in a separate thread. There people 
seemed to be +1 on releasing a recipe that declares its minimal buildout 
version requirement to be = 1.5.1. Would you say that that situation is 
similar to this?

Thanks for your feedback.
regards, jw

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[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 42 OK, 8 Failed

2010-10-06 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list.
Period Tue Oct  5 12:00:00 2010 UTC to Wed Oct  6 12:00:00 2010 UTC.
There were 50 messages: 6 from Zope Tests, 4 from buildbot at pov.lt, 20 from 
buildbot at winbot.zope.org, 11 from ccomb at free.fr, 9 from jdriessen at 
thehealthagency.com.


Test failures
-

Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_dev py_254_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Tue Oct  5 16:19:16 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021120.html

Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_dev py_265_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Tue Oct  5 16:28:02 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021121.html

Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_dev py_265_win64
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Tue Oct  5 16:37:24 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021122.html

Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_dev py_270_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Tue Oct  5 16:46:17 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021123.html

Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_dev py_270_win64
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Tue Oct  5 16:56:23 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021124.html

Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / ztk_win slave-win
From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
Date: Tue Oct  5 17:21:43 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021127.html

Subject: FAILED : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_244_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Tue Oct  5 17:43:39 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021136.html

Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / zope2.12 slave-osx
From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
Date: Wed Oct  6 05:19:12 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021169.html


Tests passed OK
---

Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_10 py_244_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Tue Oct  5 17:06:02 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021125.html

Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_10 py_254_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Tue Oct  5 17:14:45 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021126.html

Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_10 py_265_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Tue Oct  5 17:23:08 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021128.html

Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / zope2.12 slave-ubuntu64
From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
Date: Tue Oct  5 17:26:07 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021129.html

Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / zope2 slave-ubuntu64
From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
Date: Tue Oct  5 17:28:08 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021130.html

Subject: OK : winbot / ztk_10 py_265_win64
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Tue Oct  5 17:31:49 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021131.html

Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu64
From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
Date: Tue Oct  5 17:32:46 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021132.html

Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / zope2.12 slave-ubuntu32
From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
Date: Tue Oct  5 17:33:19 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021133.html

Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / zope2 slave-ubuntu32
From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
Date: Tue Oct  5 17:35:26 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021134.html

Subject: OK : Zope Buildbot / ztk slave-ubuntu32
From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
Date: Tue Oct  5 17:39:56 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021135.html

Subject: OK : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_254_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Tue Oct  5 17:53:51 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021137.html

Subject: OK : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_265_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Tue Oct  5 18:04:57 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021138.html

Subject: OK : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_265_win64
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Tue Oct  5 18:16:24 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021139.html

Subject: OK : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_270_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Tue Oct  5 18:28:02 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021140.html

Subject: OK : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_270_win64
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Tue Oct  5 18:39:07 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021141.html

Subject: OK : winbot / ZODB_dev py_254_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Tue Oct  5 19:35:51 EDT 2010
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021142.html

Subject: 

Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 42 OK, 8 Failed

2010-10-06 Thread Tres Seaver
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The first five failures appear to be related to the same cause.

 Test failures
 -
 
 Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_dev py_254_win32
 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
 Date: Tue Oct  5 16:19:16 EDT 2010
 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021120.html
 
 Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_dev py_265_win32
 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
 Date: Tue Oct  5 16:28:02 EDT 2010
 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021121.html
 
 Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_dev py_265_win64
 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
 Date: Tue Oct  5 16:37:24 EDT 2010
 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021122.html

This appears to be a newline normalization issue in the doctests for
zope.testrunner:  somebody who can test a fix on both Windows and
non-Windows should look at the flags passed to the failing tests.

 Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_dev py_270_win32
 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
 Date: Tue Oct  5 16:46:17 EDT 2010
 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021123.html
 
 Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_dev py_270_win64
 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
 Date: Tue Oct  5 16:56:23 EDT 2010
 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021124.html




 Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / ztk_win slave-win
 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
 Date: Tue Oct  5 17:21:43 EDT 2010
 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021127.html

I couldn't view the test output on this one:  the URL yields a 404.



 Subject: FAILED : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_244_win32
 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
 Date: Tue Oct  5 17:43:39 EDT 2010
 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021136.html

This one seems to be a non-Windows-specific zc.buildout test failure:  I
don't think we run those tests anywhere else.



 Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / zope2.12 slave-osx
 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
 Date: Wed Oct  6 05:19:12 EDT 2010
 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021169.html

The link for this one also 404s.



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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 42 OK, 8 Failed

2010-10-06 Thread Jan-Jaap Driessen
On 6 October 2010 16:11, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote:

snip

 Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / ztk_win slave-win
 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
 Date: Tue Oct  5 17:21:43 EDT 2010
 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021127.html

 I couldn't view the test output on this one:  the URL yields a 404.


My bad. I am upgrading this buildbot (more packages, python2.7). Back
online soon.


 Subject: FAILED : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_244_win32
 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
 Date: Tue Oct  5 17:43:39 EDT 2010
 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021136.html

 This one seems to be a non-Windows-specific zc.buildout test failure:  I
 don't think we run those tests anywhere else.



 Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / zope2.12 slave-osx
 From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
 Date: Wed Oct  6 05:19:12 EDT 2010
 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021169.html

 The link for this one also 404s.


Same same.


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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 42 OK, 8 Failed

2010-10-06 Thread Adam GROSZER
Hello Tres,


 Subject: FAILED : winbot / zc_buildout_dev py_244_win32
 From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
 Date: Tue Oct  5 17:43:39 EDT 2010
 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2010-October/021136.html

TS This one seems to be a non-Windows-specific zc.buildout test failure:  I
TS don't think we run those tests anywhere else.

Gary personally said about windows+python 2.4+zc.buildout: Just don't ask me.
Either we just ignore this or I drop python 2.4.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 42 OK, 8 Failed

2010-10-06 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Adam GROSZER agros...@gmail.com wrote:
 Gary personally said about windows+python 2.4+zc.buildout: Just don't ask me.
 Either we just ignore this or I drop python 2.4.

At least for zc,buildout 1.5+ I'd be fine to drop Python 2.4 test
runs. We don't have zc.buildout in the ZTK 1.0, so it's fine not to
support it.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 42 OK, 8 Failed

2010-10-06 Thread Tres Seaver
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On 10/06/2010 12:30 PM, Hanno Schlichting wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Adam GROSZER agros...@gmail.com wrote:
 Gary personally said about windows+python 2.4+zc.buildout: Just don't ask me.
 Either we just ignore this or I drop python 2.4.
 
 At least for zc,buildout 1.5+ I'd be fine to drop Python 2.4 test
 runs. We don't have zc.buildout in the ZTK 1.0, so it's fine not to
 support it.

+1 for dropping the test:  if we aren't going to try to fix it to pass,
then scrap it.  Note that I actually feel the same way about *all* the
every-day failures:  the value of the every-day mail drops sharply when
there are any expected failures.


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Re: [Zope-dev] adapter registry in other systems

2010-10-06 Thread jure
  thanks, i'll check it out!

Regards ,jure

On 10/05/2010 04:26 PM, Alan Runyan wrote:
 i've read martin's article
 http://www.martinaspeli.net/articles/a-java-component-architecture,
 where he mentions that java doesn't have an equivalent of zca's adapter
 registry. The article was written in 2007, so I was wondering if this
 still holds true? What about other platforms, maybe .NET?
 jure,

 my understanding is that OSGi comes pretty close to the ZCA
 in spirit.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSGi

 cheers
 alan
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