[Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)
Hi everyone, another weekly meeting is coming up today and I hope see you again around 3pm UTC at #zope at freenode. (That's a bit less than 4 hours from now on.) Last week's summary is here: https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/attachments/20100421/b1da5f70/attachment-0001. Agenda -- - State of bug tracking/LP usage - zope.app - emptying out Zope 3 bugs - dealing with the zope.org project group - Review bug day outcome - Windows machines status update Ongoing issues -- Those issues are currently ongoing. We don't have to discuss them. We just need to follow up on them eventually. - Bug tracking - Monitoring tracker status (Charlie Clark, ctheune) - Towards a ZTK release - Establishing ZTK release engineering team (Z2, grok, BB) - Documentation - Release scope - Test runners / nightly builds - Windows machines - Meta - How to organize open issues in the long run (Blueprints? Other tool? Continue text files?) - Find second person to run the weekly meetings Horizon --- These items are currently tracked on the horizon. We won't discuss them at this meeting, but we'll get to them at some point: - Pondering *some* (re-)structuring of the ZTK to allow for better maintenance/release management/communication/marketing. (Chris McDonough) Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh & co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)
another weekly meeting is coming up today and I hope see you again around 3pm UTC at #zope at freenode. (That's about 2 hours from now on.) Last week's summary is here: https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/attachments/20100406/43469a51/attachment.txt Agenda -- - Upcoming bug day (Announcements, Mentors) - Resurrecting the "sprint schedule" page, http://wiki.zope.org/zope/SprintSchedule - A more general calendar (e.g., for Zope / Python related conferences, symposia, sprints, etc.) - Test runners / nightly builds Ongoing issues -- Those issues are currently ongoing. We don't have to discuss them. We just need to follow up on them eventually. - Test runners / nightly builds - Towards a list of projects/platforms/etc. we want guaranteed builds for. - Automatic binary egg builds for Windows - Access to Windows build machine for developers (AMI) - Access to Visual Studio license for the build machine - Bug tracking - Monitoring tracker status (Charlie Clark, ctheune) - Temporary restructuring of ZTK packages into single project (ctheune) - Long-term restructuring of LP packages into individual projects and project group - Triaging Z3 bugs into ZTK, closing Z3 tracker then. - Towards a ZTK release - Establishing ZTK release engineering team (Z2, grok, BB) - Documentation - Release scope - Meta - How to organize open issues in the long run (Blueprints? MyCommittee? Other tool? Continue text files?) - Find second person to run the weekly meetings Horizon --- These items are currently tracked on the horizon. We won't discuss them at this meeting, but we'll get to them at some point: - Pondering *some* (re-)structuring of the ZTK to allow for better maintenance/release management/communication/marketing. (Chris McDonough) -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh & co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)
On 03/31/2010 12:35 PM, Adam GROSZER wrote: Hello Christian, One point for the next agenda: As Marius also had the issue to do a KGS 3.4.1. Do we want to do that? I can put it on the agenda, but it sounds like that could also be discussed on the mailinglist. I don't want to get rid of the mailinglist - I'd just like to provide an additional channel of communication. So there's no need to wait. Just ask on the list and if that doesn't work out, we'll discuss it in the weekly meeting. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh & co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)
Hello Christian, One point for the next agenda: As Marius also had the issue to do a KGS 3.4.1. Do we want to do that? Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 11:09:05 AM, you wrote: ... -- Best regards, Adam GROSZERmailto:agros...@gmail.com -- Quote of the day: To ease another's heartache is to forget one's own. - Abraham Lincoln ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)
Hi, On 03/30/2010 11:09 AM, Christian Theune wrote: > Hi everyone, > > today's the fifth weekly meeting and I hope to see you around 3pm UTC at > #zope at freenode. (Still a few hours to go.) and ... I screwed up the DST switch and started the meeting an hour early. I didn't notice, though, because quite a few people joined in, still. We're currently in meta mode discussing the meetings itself, just in case you wanna jump in. Sorry, Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh & co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)
Hi everyone, today's the fifth weekly meeting and I hope to see you around 3pm UTC at #zope at freenode. (Still a few hours to go.) Please plan 45 minutes for today instead of the usual 30 minutes: the designated time frame of the meeting as an experiment is ending and thus I'd like to spend some time for reflection in addition to the regular meeting. If you can, please prepare your thoughts about the meeting: what you like or didn't like, what works for you, and what doesn't work, suggestions or questiosn you have. Last week's summary is here: https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/attachments/20100327/e26f6a8c/attachment.txt Agenda -- - Bug tracking - working on bugs regularly - keeping an eye on the situation - How do we deal with proposed API changes and Python 3 compatibility? (Lennart Regebro) - Review off weekly meeting experiment Ongoing issues -- Those issues are currently ongoing. We don't have to discuss them. We just need to follow up on them eventually. - Test runners / nightly buids - Bootstrapping the coordinator volunteer. Clarify responsibilities and current tasks. - Towards a list of projects/platforms/etc. we want guaranteed builds for. - Automatic binary egg builds for Windows - Access to Windows build machine for developers (AMI) - Access to Visual Studio license for the build machine - Bug tracking - Temporary restructuring of ZTK packages into single project (ctheune) - Long-term restructuring of LP packages into individual projects and project group - Triaging Z3 bugs into ZTK, closing Z3 tracker then. - Towards a ZTK release - Establishing ZTK release engineering team (Z2, grok, BB) - Documentation - Release scope Horizon --- These items are currently tracked on the horizon. We won't discuss them at this meeting, but we'll get to them at some point: - Pondering *some* (re-)structuring of the ZTK to allow for better maintenance/release management/communication/marketing. (Chris McDonough) -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh & co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)
Hi everyone, it's time for another weekly and here's the reminder including the proposed agenda. Time and place, as usual, are 3pm UTC at #zope at freenode. That's about 2 hours from now. If you'd like to review last weeks summary, please check here: https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/attachments/20100316/fe552cd1/attachment.txt Agenda -- - ZTK release manager - Bug tracking - maintenaning the bug database - working on bugs regularly - keeping an eye on the situation - how to deal with toolkits versus packages in the launchpad structure Ongoing issues -- Those issues are currently ongoing. We don't have to discuss them. We just need to follow up on them eventually. - Test runners / nightly buids - Bootstrapping the coordinator volunteer. Clarify responsibilities and current tasks. - Towards a list of projects/platforms/etc. we want guaranteed builds for. - Automatic binary egg builds for Windows - Access to Windows build machine for developers (AMI) - Access to Visual Studio license for the build machine - Towards a ZTK release - Documentation - Release scope Horizon --- These items are currently tracked on the horizon. We won't discuss them at this meeting, but we'll get to them at some point: - How do we deal with proposed API changes and Python 3 compatibility? (Lennart Regebro) - Pondering *some* (re-)structuring of the ZTK to allow for better maintenance/release management/communication/marketing. (Chris McDonough) See you soon, Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh & co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 3/18/10 09:23 , Godefroid Chapelle wrote: > As far as I know, Zope 2 has no release manager since Andreas retired > after so many years of hard work. > > I think there is a need for a new release manager. > > Is that question part of the horizon of the IRC meetings ? > Or is it processed elsewhere ? Setting up a simple process for release manager selection is on my plate as part of my Zope Foundation work. I just haven't gotten to it yet. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkuh5/gACgkQRAx5nvEhZLI8pwCeIZKEKIOW6h2a2ro5fZ8Kfbj9 J9sAn3eNKUZIN+3185OQ1On4P92YH+m1 =VQiW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)
On 16/03/10 14:28, Christian Theune wrote: > Horizon > --- > > These items are currently tracked on the horizon. We won't discuss them > at this meeting, but we'll get to them at some point: > > - Test runners / nightly builds >- Volunteer for coordinating automated builds >- Towards a list of projects/platforms/etc. we want guaranteed builds > for >- Automatic binary egg builds for Windows >- Access to Windows (2003) build machines for developers (Baiju M.) > > - Bug tracking / working on bugs regularly > > - How do we deal with proposed API changes and Python 3 compatibility? >(Lennart Regebro) > > - Pondering *some* (re-)structuring of the ZTK to allow for better >maintenance/release management/communication/marketing. (Chris >McDonough) > > Hope to see you in about 90 minutes, > Christian As far as I know, Zope 2 has no release manager since Andreas retired after so many years of hard work. I think there is a need for a new release manager. Is that question part of the horizon of the IRC meetings ? Or is it processed elsewhere ? Thanks for taking the time of leading those meetings. -- Godefroid Chapelle (aka __gotcha) http://bubblenet.be ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 14:28, Christian Theune wrote: > Hi everyone, > > today's the third weekly meeting and here's the reminder including the > proposed agenda. Time and place, building on previous weeks, are 3pm UTC > at #zope at freenode. That's about 90 minutes from now. > > If you'd like to review last week's summary, please check here: > https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/attachments/20100310/6e95116e/attachment-0001.txt > > Agenda > -- > > With the experience from last week (we only barely managed to go through > a single issue) I'll have the agenda a little more reduced. If > we run out of topics, we can move over to stuff from the horizon. > > - Test runners / nightly builds Yesterday I finished a simple parser for all the buildbots out there. It parses the results, and stores them into a small zodb. It separates between good builders, bad builders and bad builders that are bad for more than a week. It contains a yet empty list of builders that shall always be ignored, and a list of builders that shall never be ignored. It can already send the OK/FAILURE mails, where failure means: more than 0 bad builds that are either on the never ignore list, or are bad for less than a week and not on the always ignore list. My next step would be a html representation with a nice little table for the primary builders. Best regards, Patrick ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)
Hi everyone, today's the third weekly meeting and here's the reminder including the proposed agenda. Time and place, building on previous weeks, are 3pm UTC at #zope at freenode. That's about 90 minutes from now. If you'd like to review last week's summary, please check here: https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/attachments/20100310/6e95116e/attachment-0001.txt Agenda -- With the experience from last week (we only barely managed to go through a single issue) I'll have the agenda a little more reduced. If we run out of topics, we can move over to stuff from the horizon. - Test runners / nightly builds - Short status report (Volunteer, access to Windows build environment) - Towards a ZTK release - What is needed for a release? - Who's the release manager? - Can we ensure building Windows binaries? - Wrap-up (5 minutes) Horizon --- These items are currently tracked on the horizon. We won't discuss them at this meeting, but we'll get to them at some point: - Test runners / nightly builds - Volunteer for coordinating automated builds - Towards a list of projects/platforms/etc. we want guaranteed builds for - Automatic binary egg builds for Windows - Access to Windows (2003) build machines for developers (Baiju M.) - Bug tracking / working on bugs regularly - How do we deal with proposed API changes and Python 3 compatibility? (Lennart Regebro) - Pondering *some* (re-)structuring of the ZTK to allow for better maintenance/release management/communication/marketing. (Chris McDonough) Hope to see you in about 90 minutes, Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh & co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 3:04 AM, Hanno Schlichting wrote: > We talked about the status of this a bit. I just finished checking the > list of packages with C extensions as listed at > http://wiki.zope.org/bluebream/StatusOfWindowsBinaryPackages > > The listed packages currently match the list of packages used in the > ZTK and the zopeapp.cfg file. I have created some more Windows binary > eggs for Python 2.6 32/64 bit and updated the wiki page. > > All of them now have binary eggs for Python 2.6 32bit and 64bit. Thanks for creating binary packages ! Regards, Baiju M ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)
Hi. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Christian Theune wrote: > Agenda > -- > > - Can we ensure building Windows binaries? We talked about the status of this a bit. I just finished checking the list of packages with C extensions as listed at http://wiki.zope.org/bluebream/StatusOfWindowsBinaryPackages The listed packages currently match the list of packages used in the ZTK and the zopeapp.cfg file. I have created some more Windows binary eggs for Python 2.6 32/64 bit and updated the wiki page. All of them now have binary eggs for Python 2.6 32bit and 64bit. I don't have any access to a build machine for other versions anymore. There's some general progress on the whole issue of getting better Windows support. I'll wait for Theuni to post the summary of todays chat to follow-up. Hanno ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)
Agenda for today's IRC meeting at 3pm UTC on #zope Hi, continuing the experiment of weekly meetings, here's the reminder for today's meeting including the proposed agenda. Time and place is, again, 3pm UTC at #z...@freenode. If you'd like to review last week's summary, please check here: https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/attachments/20100302/60a8224d/attachment.txt Agenda -- These are agenda items compiled from last weeks summary and input from the community: - Test runners / nightly builds (10 minutes) - Volunteer for coordinating automated builds - Towards a list of projects/platforms/etc. we want guaranteed builds for - Access to Windows (2003) build machines for developers (Baiju M.) - Towards a ZTK release (10 minutes) - What is needed for a release? - Who's the release manager? - Can we ensure building Windows binaries? - Bug tracking / working on bugs regularly (5 minutes) - Wrap-up (5 minutes) Horizon --- These items are currently tracked on the horizon: we won't discuss them at this meeting, but we'll get to them at some point: - How do we deal with proposed API changes and Python 3 compatibility? (Lennart Regebro) - Pondering *some* (re-)structuring of the ZTK to allow for better maintenance/release management/communication/marketing. (Chris McDonough) -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh & co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Agenda for today's IRC meeting (3pm UTC on #zope)
(gmane seems to be stuck, so maybe this ends up being send twice...) Hi, continuing the experiment of weekly meetings, here's the reminder for today's meeting including the proposed agenda. Time and place is, again, 3pm UTC at #z...@freenode. If you'd like to review last week's summary, please check here: https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/attachments/20100302/60a8224d/attachment.txt Agenda -- These are agenda items compiled from last weeks summary and input from the community: - Test runners / nightly builds (10 minutes) - Volunteer for coordinating automated builds - Towards a list of projects/platforms/etc. we want guaranteed builds for - Access to Windows (2003) build machines for developers (Baiju M.) - Towards a ZTK release (10 minutes) - What is needed for a release? - Who's the release manager? - Can we ensure building Windows binaries? - Bug tracking / working on bugs regularly (5 minutes) - Wrap-up (5 minutes) Horizon --- These items are currently tracked on the horizon: we won't discuss them at this meeting, but we'll get to them at some point: - How do we deal with proposed API changes and Python 3 compatibility? (Lennart Regebro) - Pondering *some* (re-)structuring of the ZTK to allow for better maintenance/release management/communication/marketing. (Chris McDonough) -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh & co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )