Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting 2010-07-27 at 15:00 UTC
On 07/27/2010 08:50 PM, Charlie Clark wrote: Am 27.07.2010, 16:31 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theunec...@gocept.com: I'd like to see whether someone was at EuroPython and can report whether anything interesting for us, the Zope developers, happened. I was there but I couldn't join in today's meeting as I was still airborne. My BFG presentation seemed to go down pretty well and Zope/Plone seemed to be pretty well represented, better than the current framework du jour, Django. It was great to see Zopish stuff (ZCA and ZODB) presented outside the web world and Matt Hamilton did a sterling job promoting the Plone conference in Bristol in October. I did my best to plug the upcoming Python (and Zope) conference in Dresden in September but was a bit hampered at having to do this *without* any visual support, although my Macbook had no trouble with the main projector (seemed to crash lots of machines - my guess is that the VGA signal wasn't properly damped), as I was able to announce it between lightning talks. Only two slots for lightning talks but I really the one after lunch much better than sticking them at the end of day. [...] Thanks for the report! Is there a list of talks online where we can get the links to the Zope-related ones, maybe even slides, from? Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting 2010-07-27 at 15:00 UTC
Hi, for the summary: No EP participant was around, but (as you can see) we're asking for quick updates from participants via the mailing list. The experiment for reviewing languishing bugs turned into a more general discussionabout responsiveness, process, expectations and others. No decisions were made but we can probably use some of it as an input for the summit. See the IRC log if you're interested in the full 20 minutes. http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/zope-dev/zope-dev-20100727.html Cheers, Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting 2010-07-27 at 15:00 UTC
Hi, Indeed, there were more talks about ZCA, ZODB, Grok, BFG this year. You can see the timetable at http://www.europython.eu/talks/timetable/ On Monday 19 July 2010: - Web/mobile templating in Silva, Kit Blake Sylvain Viollon presented how to code layout and page with Silva (CMS based on Zope2). This uses the concept of the megrok.layout package. On Tuesday 20 July 2010 afternoon: - Look Again at the ZCA, Mike Rhodes The ZCA was simply explained, it was a good introduction for beginner. Even a Django developer in the audience uses the ZCA in his application. - The ZODB Me, Daniel Marks - Zope Components for the Win, Albertas Agejevas On Wednesday 21 July 2010: - Mobi: a mobile user agent lib, Kit Blake This uses wsgi middlerware and ZCA - Speed Thrills!, Charlie Clark Talk about bfg. It's secure, flexible, reliable... ;-) - You don't use Grok, Martijn Faassen Martijn's talks were entertaining as usual. I was at the Grok sprint, I worked with Martijn on hurry.resource. I released new versions of megrok.resource and hurry.zoperesource during the sprint. Vincent Fretin Ecreall Site : http://vincentfretin.ecreall.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting 2010-07-27 at 15:00 UTC
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:12:14AM +0200, Vincent Fretin wrote: - Zope Components for the Win, Albertas Agejevas My slides are available here: http://fridge.pov.lt/~alga/ep2010/ep2010-agejevas.html Albertas ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Developer meeting 2010-07-27 at 15:00 UTC
Hi again, late, but here it is: We have an IRC meeting coming up in about 30 minutes. I'd like to see whether someone was at EuroPython and can report whether anything interesting for us, the Zope developers, happened. I'd also like to try again doing some languishing bug review together. Just to make sure: I want us to take 10-15 minutes to review new bugs and either reject them or accept them as valid bugs signalling the reporters that we have seen them (and will deal with them eventually). Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Developer meeting 2010-07-27 at 15:00 UTC
Am 27.07.2010, 16:31 Uhr, schrieb Christian Theune c...@gocept.com: I'd like to see whether someone was at EuroPython and can report whether anything interesting for us, the Zope developers, happened. I was there but I couldn't join in today's meeting as I was still airborne. My BFG presentation seemed to go down pretty well and Zope/Plone seemed to be pretty well represented, better than the current framework du jour, Django. It was great to see Zopish stuff (ZCA and ZODB) presented outside the web world and Matt Hamilton did a sterling job promoting the Plone conference in Bristol in October. I did my best to plug the upcoming Python (and Zope) conference in Dresden in September but was a bit hampered at having to do this *without* any visual support, although my Macbook had no trouble with the main projector (seemed to crash lots of machines - my guess is that the VGA signal wasn't properly damped), as I was able to announce it between lightning talks. Only two slots for lightning talks but I really the one after lunch much better than sticking them at the end of day. Europython was as enjoyable as ever - I find the range of talks broader than at PyCon - but as badly organised as ever. PyCon definitely has the edge on that. John Pinner, et al didn't a fantastic job as ever but the European and particularly British culture of it'll be alright on the night was shown badly wanting and I suspect the catering was as poor as last year - I went straight to the sandwich shop which had a shorter queue. I say this as a Brit and someone who didn't volunteer for anything. My Luddite heart was gladdened by the problems with the Wifi which meant attendees were indeed occasionally attentive but I totally sympathise with John Pinner who said that the wifi has continually declined since they installed it three years ago and it did negatively affect one or two presentations. Europython next year is due to be in Florence. I prefer the May date but as far as I know no venue has yet been found. Will be great especially for WAGS (leave the credit cards at home) if they get it sorted! 2012 is still open but I'd put money on it being in Germany with plans for a full Python conference in Germany in 2011 already being made. On the positive side the beer at the Wellington was as good as last year and it was great to see Guido van Rossum and Steve Holden encouraging others to go for a post-conference pint! :-D Highlights for me: Bruce Lawson's keynote and presentation in earthy, vernacular Brum; Hannu Krosing's thoughts on different ways of getting Python and Postgres to work together; and the Codility talk on testing programmers which, predictably, drew interest from several German developers keen on ways of weeding out those who just can't program very well, with reasonable online tests. But with four to five tracks and a schedule to 18:30 each day there is plenty I missed. FWIW we've done a brewery tour as part of BeGeistert which was very enjoyable and popular and I think there's a natural fit between Python programmers and craftsmen. Charlie -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 Düsseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
