Re: [Zope-dev] Is Zope.2.7.4 feature frozen ?
--On Montag, 20. Dezember 2004 9:48 Uhr -0500 Jim Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: These are improvements of existing functionalies but not new features. I consider "improvements of existing functionality" to be a new feature. Third-dot releases should be only for bug fixes. Then I call them "new mini features" which are reasonably manageable through a reasonable release management (I hope we have one :-)). Sometimes we compromise on this. I realize that the lack of progress on 2.8 creates pent up demand for new features in earlier releases. I'm not sure what to do about that. I know I won't be able to spend time on 2.8 until after the new year, at least. I am not in the position to tell people what to do but an ongoing Z2 development is vital for Zope and its community. A standstill is like going a step back. This is especially true as long as Zope 3 has the infrastructure that we need to build systems we can build with Zope 2. Andreas ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Is Zope.2.7.4 feature frozen ?
Andreas Jung wrote: --On Freitag, 17. September 2004 11:58 Uhr -0300 Rodrigo Dias Arruda Senra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: However, I was lead to believe that 2.7.x was not feature frozen due to the "Zope 2.7.4 beta 1 - Features added ..." section in http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.7.4b2/CHANGES.txt These are improvements of existing functionalies but not new features. I consider "improvements of existing functionality" to be a new feature. Third-dot releases should be only for bug fixes. Sometimes we compromise on this. I realize that the lack of progress on 2.8 creates pent up demand for new features in earlier releases. I'm not sure what to do about that. I know I won't be able to spend time on 2.8 until after the new year, at least. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Is Zope.2.7.4 feature frozen ?
--On Freitag, 17. September 2004 11:58 Uhr -0300 Rodrigo Dias Arruda Senra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: However, I was lead to believe that 2.7.x was not feature frozen due to the "Zope 2.7.4 beta 1 - Features added ..." section in http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.7.4b2/CHANGES.txt These are improvements of existing functionalies but not new features. A new feature would "added SOAP support" or something similar but adding a knob here and there and adjusting code where it is necessary. -aj ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Is Zope.2.7.4 feature frozen ?
Jim Fulton wrote: Rodrigo Dias Arruda Senra wrote: Hi, is the Zope 2.7.4 feature frozen ? Huh? Zope 2.7 is feature frozen. New features need to go into 2.8. Jim Fair enough. I do understand the rationale why new features should follow major releases. However, I was lead to believe that 2.7.x was not feature frozen due to the "Zope 2.7.4 beta 1 - Features added ..." section in http://zope.org/Products/Zope/2.7.4b2/CHANGES.txt There is more historical evidence of added features in minor releases. Perhaps borderline cases between bug fix and new feature or just simply exceptions to the rule . cheers, Rod Senra ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Is Zope.2.7.4 feature frozen ?
Rodrigo Dias Arruda Senra wrote: Hi, is the Zope 2.7.4 feature frozen ? Huh? Zope 2.7 is feature frozen. New features need to go into 2.8. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Is Zope.2.7.4 feature frozen ?
Paul Winkler wrote: On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 11:16:22AM -0300, Rodrigo Dias Arruda Senra wrote: Hi, is the Zope 2.7.4 feature frozen ? If not, I believe that the patch : http://zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1584 It adds the directive 'extensions' to zope.conf. If overriden, then the specified directory will be used for ExternalMethods, instead of the default $INSTANCE/Extensions. Nice idea. How hard would it be to make it support multiple Extensions directories, just like we can have multiple Products directories? Fortunately it is was not hard at all, it took me one hour to find where to tweak, do it and test it under 2.8. And it took *that long* because it was my first excursion under Zope skirts ;o) Namely, it required three small additions to Extensions.py, zopeschema.xml, and zope.conf. You can see details below, but that version was coded against 2.8 cvs snapshot. I believe it will remain mostly the same against 2.7.5, but is better to be safe than sorry. So I'll test it and re-submit to collector as Andreas suggested previously in this thread, but this time I'll give it a higher priority since it seems to be useful and easy to add. cheers, Rod Senra Index: lib/python/Zope/Startup/zopeschema.xml === --- lib/python/Zope/Startup/zopeschema.xml(revision 28473) +++ lib/python/Zope/Startup/zopeschema.xml(working copy) @@ -332,6 +332,14 @@ $instancehome/Products + + + + This overrides the path to the Extensions directory. + +$instancehome/Extensions + + This specifies additional paths directories which are inserted into Index: lib/python/App/Extensions.py === --- lib/python/App/Extensions.py(revision 28473) +++ lib/python/App/Extensions.py(working copy) @@ -87,8 +87,14 @@ r = _getPath(product_dir, os.path.join(p, prefix), n, suffixes) if r is not None: return r + import App.config cfg = App.config.getConfiguration() + +if (prefix=="Extensions") and (cfg.extensions is not None): +r=_getPath(cfg.extensions, '', name, suffixes) +if r is not None: return r + sw=os.path.dirname(os.path.dirname(cfg.softwarehome)) for home in (cfg.instancehome, sw): r=_getPath(home, prefix, name, suffixes) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Is Zope.2.7.4 feature frozen ?
On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 11:16:22AM -0300, Rodrigo Dias Arruda Senra wrote: > Hi, > > is the Zope 2.7.4 feature frozen ? > > If not, I believe that the patch : >http://zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1584 >It adds the directive 'extensions' to zope.conf. >If overriden, then the specified directory will be used for > ExternalMethods, >instead of the default $INSTANCE/Extensions. Nice idea. How hard would it be to make it support multiple Extensions directories, just like we can have multiple Products directories? -- Paul Winkler http://www.slinkp.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Is Zope.2.7.4 feature frozen ?
--On Donnerstag, 16. September 2004 11:16 Uhr -0300 Rodrigo Dias Arruda Senra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, is the Zope 2.7.4 feature frozen ? Yes. Nevertheless, that patch was cooked for 2.8. I volunteer to clean it, port it back and test it under 2.7.4b, and re-submit to ZC if approved. Consider to clean it up for 2.7.5. New features for 2.7.4 final are currently not accepted. Andreas ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Is Zope.2.7.4 feature frozen ?
Hi, is the Zope 2.7.4 feature frozen ? If not, I believe that the patch : http://zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1584 It adds the directive 'extensions' to zope.conf. If overriden, then the specified directory will be used for ExternalMethods, instead of the default $INSTANCE/Extensions. IMVHO it would be simple to add and nice to have it there. For further information check the thread "Give 'Extensions' a configurable directory in zope.conf", in zope users mailling list. Nevertheless, that patch was cooked for 2.8. I volunteer to clean it, port it back and test it under 2.7.4b, and re-submit to ZC if approved. best regards, Rod Senra ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
