[Zope-dev] Re: Weird test failures with DateTime

2005-11-27 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
 I've recently been seeing weird DateTime test failures on all Zope 2
 branches since 2.7 (see below). Any idea what I'm doing wrong? My system
 is OSX 10.3 with a self-compiled Python 2.4.1 (through darwinports). My
 system timezone, as you can see, is GMT+0800 (Beijing time).

I've figured this one out. The Chinese time zone is known as 'CST', but
so is 'US/Central' as well. In fact, Mac OS X itself doesn't report the
time zones to python consistently. When I set my time zone to Chicago
time, time.tzname is ('CST', 'CST') and when I set my time zone to
Shanghai time, it remains the same, even though it's a completely
different time zone. DateTime.DateTimeZone._zmap can only pick one
timezone to be mapped to the 'CST' name and it happens to choose
'US/Central' (which doesn't surprise me obviously). Running the tests
with the operating system's time zone set to, say, CET works fine.

Philipp

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[Zope-dev] Re: Weird test failures with DateTime

2005-11-27 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
 
 On 26 Nov 2005, at 15:07, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
 
 However, I am noticing that on the current Zope 2.9 branch, trying to
 build the software fails completely. The configure script works  
 fine,
 but the make step does not seem to do anything at all.


 Yes it does. It compiles the C extensions.
 
 
 The real difference now is that I used to be able to create an empty 
 directory from which to run configure and make, but now it only works 
 when you sit inside the full source tree...  So in order to do my  usual
 pristine source tree under src/, build under opt/ I must now  copy the
 full source tree over. Annoying :/

Yes, the out-of-place build functionality, as we unofficially called
it, is not supported anymore. Really, I was surprised to hear that
people used this feature so much for checkouts. After all, I thought you
want to *work* in a sandbox, not install from it or anything (otherwise
you wouldn't need a sandbox...).

Philipp
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[Zope-dev] Re: Weird test failures with DateTime

2005-11-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl


On 27 Nov 2005, at 15:49, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:

The real difference now is that I used to be able to create an empty
directory from which to run configure and make, but now it only works
when you sit inside the full source tree...  So in order to do my   
usual
pristine source tree under src/, build under opt/ I must now   
copy the

full source tree over. Annoying :/


Yes, the out-of-place build functionality, as we unofficially called
it, is not supported anymore. Really, I was surprised to hear that
people used this feature so much for checkouts. After all, I  
thought you
want to *work* in a sandbox, not install from it or anything  
(otherwise

you wouldn't need a sandbox...).


Define sandbox. For me it is not the checkout of the software  
itself, it is the built-out $SOFTWARE_HOME. It was a little easier to  
create several such sandboxes (e.g. one with Python 2.3.x, one with  
2.4.x) using the out of place build.


jens

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[Zope-dev] Re: Weird test failures with DateTime

2005-11-27 Thread Alexander Limi
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 07:40:36 -0800, Philipp von Weitershausen  
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Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:

I've recently been seeing weird DateTime test failures on all Zope 2
branches since 2.7 (see below). Any idea what I'm doing wrong? My system
is OSX 10.3 with a self-compiled Python 2.4.1 (through darwinports). My
system timezone, as you can see, is GMT+0800 (Beijing time).


I've figured this one out. The Chinese time zone is known as 'CST', but
so is 'US/Central' as well. In fact, Mac OS X itself doesn't report the
time zones to python consistently. When I set my time zone to Chicago
time, time.tzname is ('CST', 'CST') and when I set my time zone to
Shanghai time, it remains the same, even though it's a completely
different time zone. DateTime.DateTimeZone._zmap can only pick one
timezone to be mapped to the 'CST' name and it happens to choose
'US/Central' (which doesn't surprise me obviously). Running the tests
with the operating system's time zone set to, say, CET works fine.


Welcome to the wonderful US-centric world of the Zope DateTime module. I  
believe the same problem exists for Australian time zones which happen to  
share abbreviations with some obscure US time zone. ;)


Posting from the US-ly yours,

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[Zope-dev] Re: Weird test failures with DateTime

2005-11-27 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Alexander Limi wrote:
  Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:
  I've recently been seeing weird DateTime test failures on all Zope 2
  branches since 2.7 (see below). Any idea what I'm doing wrong? My system
  is OSX 10.3 with a self-compiled Python 2.4.1 (through darwinports). My
  system timezone, as you can see, is GMT+0800 (Beijing time).
 
  I've figured this one out. The Chinese time zone is known as 'CST', but
  so is 'US/Central' as well. In fact, Mac OS X itself doesn't report the
  time zones to python consistently. When I set my time zone to Chicago
  time, time.tzname is ('CST', 'CST') and when I set my time zone to
  Shanghai time, it remains the same, even though it's a completely
  different time zone. DateTime.DateTimeZone._zmap can only pick one
  timezone to be mapped to the 'CST' name and it happens to choose
  'US/Central' (which doesn't surprise me obviously). Running the tests
  with the operating system's time zone set to, say, CET works fine.

 Welcome to the wonderful US-centric world of the Zope DateTime module. I
 believe the same problem exists for Australian time zones which happen to
 share abbreviations with some obscure US time zone. ;)

Indeed. In fact, I think CST is one of those ;). pytz fortunately avoids these 
ambiguities
by not knowing about these names. It only knows CST6CDT which seems to be the 
U.S. version
of the time zone.

Philipp


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[Zope-dev] Re: Weird test failures with DateTime

2005-11-26 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Jens Vagelpohl wrote:
 Hi,

 I've recently been seeing weird DateTime test failures on all Zope 2
 branches since 2.7 (see below). Any idea what I'm doing wrong? My  system
 is OSX 10.3 with a self-compiled Python 2.4.1 (through  darwinports). My
 system timezone, as you can see, is GMT+0800 (Beijing time).
 
 
 Running the tests under current 2.7/2.8 branches with Python 2.3.5 on 
 OS X 10.4.3 things run fine:
 
 --
 tiny:/usr/local/zope/28Instance jens$ bin/zopectl test --libdir /usr/
 local/zope/opt/Zope-2.8-branch/lib/python DateTime
 Running tests via: /usr/local/bin/python /usr/local/zope/opt/Zope-2.8-
 branch/bin/test.py -v --config-file /usr/local/zope/28Instance/etc/
 zope.conf --libdir /usr/local/zope/opt/Zope-2.8-branch/lib/python  DateTime
 Running unit tests at level 1
 Running unit tests from /usr/local/zope/opt/Zope-2.8-branch/lib/python
 Parsing /usr/local/zope/28Instance/etc/zope.conf
 
 --
 Ran 32 tests in 23.396s
 
 OK
 ---

Yes, I know that everyone else is not seeing the failures. That's why
I'm wondering why I do...

 However, I am noticing that on the current Zope 2.9 branch, trying to 
 build the software fails completely. The configure script works  fine,
 but the make step does not seem to do anything at all.

Yes it does. It compiles the C extensions.

 There is no error output, and all that's in the directory set as the
 -- prefix is the makefile:
 
 
  tiny:/usr/local/zope/opt/Zope-2.9-branch jens$ make
 /usr/local/bin/python2.4 /usr/local/zope/src/Zope-2.9-branch/
 setup.py \
 build_ext -i
 running build_ext
 
 Zope built. Next, do 'make install' (or 'make instance'
 to run a Zope instance directly from the build directory).
 
 tiny:/usr/local/zope/opt/Zope-2.9-branch jens$ ls
 makefile
 -
 
 INSTALL.txt still shows the configure/make/make install  instructions
 and I was under the impression this was still supposed  to work. How
 does everyone else build 2.9?

INSTALL.txt needs to be updated. A repository checkout and a tarball of
Zope 2.9 will look not alike a lot. To build a tarball, you go through
the ./configure; make; make install orgy. To build a repository
checkout, you just do ./configure; make. Like said above, that'll build
the C extensions. You can also create an in-place instance with make
instance.

Philipp
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[Zope-dev] Re: Weird test failures with DateTime

2005-11-26 Thread Jens Vagelpohl


On 26 Nov 2005, at 15:07, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:

However, I am noticing that on the current Zope 2.9 branch, trying to
build the software fails completely. The configure script works   
fine,

but the make step does not seem to do anything at all.


Yes it does. It compiles the C extensions.


The real difference now is that I used to be able to create an empty  
directory from which to run configure and make, but now it only works  
when you sit inside the full source tree...  So in order to do my  
usual pristine source tree under src/, build under opt/ I must now  
copy the full source tree over. Annoying :/


jens

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